Whoopi Goldberg is facing a fierce backlash after saying that film
director Roman Polanski didn't commit "rape-rape" when he had unlawful
sex with a 13-year-old girl. Goldberg, star of The Color Purple and Sister Act, said: "I know it
wasn't rape-rape. I think it was something else, but I don't believe it was
rape-rape."
His victim, Samantha Gailey, told a grand jury that the director had plied her
with champagne and drugs and taken nude pictures of her in a hot tub during
a fashion shoot. Polanski then had sexual intercourse with her despite her
resistance and requests to be taken home, she said.
Whew. I'm glad I now understand the difference between rape and rape-rape.
So which one did Cameron Diaz mean that Bush would legalize? Real rape or the "I'm famous so I can do whatever I want" rape?
If his unspeakable deed doesn’t meet the standard, what exactly would
Roman Polanski have to do in order to become a pariah in this town … I
mean, besides vote for Sarah Palin?
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Hollywood's attitude on this just floors me. A 13-year-old CANNOT legally consent to sexual relations, regardless of being pumped full of drugs and alcohol. The list of Hollywood characters saying we should just forget about it, "it was 30 years ago", disgusts me. It's no real wonder why I haven't been to a movie since Marley & Me last holiday season (though I wanted to see Harry Potter, but with baseball season and not having anyone to go with, I missed it). I don't want to give these people my hard-earned money.
Posted by: Miss Ladybug at September 30, 2009 09:52 PM (paOhf)
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The expressions I get when these people talk probably make me look like Jim Carrey on crack (which is probably normal Jim Carrey, really).
Anyway, I get you. I don't care HOW long ago it was, or how many "good" movies the guy made since then. Your culpability for a crime does not suddenly disappear just because it "happened a long time ago."
Honestly - I think that makes it worse. He's had 30 years to go sow more wild oats. He's had time he should not have had. He's not only NOT learned a lesson in appropriate behavior, but he's had the idea that he's above the law ingrained in him.
He's a pervert, a disgusting pedophile, and a RAPIST and he should be treated as such. I also agree with one of my peeps on Facebook who said that anyone who thinks he should be forgiven should ask themselves if they'd send their daughter or granddaughter over to Uncle Roman's house for a weekend of babysitting.
Right. That's what I thought.
Posted by: airforcewife at October 01, 2009 12:59 AM (9sMSe)
Posted by: Oda Mae at October 01, 2009 06:16 AM (AxelT)
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Rape is Rape is Rape.. The girl was underage. She could NOT give consent. The charge is RAPE. In my humble opinion, the perpertraor should be hung, drawn and quartered.
Posted by: bx19 at October 01, 2009 05:14 PM (bWGnc)
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Un. freaking. beleivable. Steam is coming out my ears.
Posted by: Lucy at October 01, 2009 05:38 PM (YNvUz)
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Also, I wonder how Whoopi would take it if I said that Dog the Bounty Hunter's N word tirade wasn't "racism-racism".
Not that I WOULD say that, because let's face it - it was racism. Seriously.
Just like what Polanski did was rape.
Posted by: airforcewife at October 01, 2009 08:36 PM (9sMSe)
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It totally disgusted me when I read about that. It's amazing how hurt and unfair Hollywood thinks this "situation" is to them. They need to get over it. Jackazzes. I'm for the drawing and quartering.
Posted by: Susan at October 01, 2009 09:13 PM (EU2Wl)
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Would it have been "rape-rape" had it happened to Whoopi's daughter or one of her two granddaughters? You bet your butt it would. In an instant.
Better yet, would Whoopi or any other of those that are so quick to rush to Mr. Polanski's defense allow him to EVER babysit their 13 year odl daughter? I doubt it seriously.
Posted by: HomefrontSix at October 05, 2009 07:31 PM (/CWwF)
KEEPING GUARD
I was so touched to see that WifeUnit and her husband brought the little ewok I made to watch over their new son in the hospital. And that the ewok donned a hazmat suit to join baby in his incubator.
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How early was he? Is he going to be okay? Poor baby.
Posted by: Christa at September 30, 2009 11:33 AM (2qSbp)
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Will you please let her know that her family is in my thoughts? (I don't have a way to tell her myself since her blog is protected now). Hoping he will improve quickly!
Posted by: dutchgirl at September 30, 2009 12:06 PM (Yg8bq)
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Send some bloggy love from me, too....can't check in on her anymore. Hope all is well and they are all taking care.
Posted by: Susan at September 30, 2009 09:04 PM (EU2Wl)
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Best wishes to WifeUnit, BabyUnit and DaddyUnit. Thinking positive thoughts here. My cousin's oldest was a premie, and he's a happy, healthy 3-1/2 year old now (though his almost 2 year old little brother is probably going to surpass him in size in the not-to-distant future...).
Posted by: Miss Ladybug at September 30, 2009 09:48 PM (paOhf)
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please send my best to wifeunit... tell her noah was a 28 weeker (and that was 24 years ago!) and weighed 1280 grams (2 lbs 13 oz)... and he's sassy and all grown... one day at a time! prayers for them all.
KANGAROO SWEATER
I got my first homemade baby gift the other day. The Girl made an adorable baby sweater, one with a kangaroo pouch! So cute. And right around the same day, MaryIndiana sent a little kangaroo. And, voila...
Posted by: Heather at September 29, 2009 07:39 PM (ACoc9)
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Cute sweater! Just make sure the baby doesn't carry her credit or debit cards in the same pouch...the little magnets in the toy kangaroo's feet will wreak havoc on them!
Posted by: MaryIndiana at September 30, 2009 11:50 AM (aeRQR)
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A Ha!!! Babies DO need pockets. I'll have to show this to Mags.
Posted by: Guard Wife at September 30, 2009 08:29 PM (EvsXa)
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Oh my gosh that's so cute. It's one of those things I'd wear in my own size, minue the kangaroo of course. How adorable
Posted by: Sara at October 04, 2009 11:08 AM (mjMky)
Mind boggling factoid of the week: if you’re going to have a
little girl, her ovaries have already produced millions of primordial
egg cells, which, within a few weeks, will develop into actual eggs!
And I have the joy of knowing that at this very moment, my little girl is growing perfectly normal eggs. That one day she should be able to have a baby of her own without the problems I faced.
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That really is awesome! We always want better for our kids people like to say. Such a great thing to know she won't need to fight that particular battle.
Posted by: wifeunit at September 29, 2009 11:07 PM (pRehN)
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One less thing to worry about, which is wonderful.
Posted by: Miss Ladybug at September 30, 2009 10:10 PM (paOhf)
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Okay... I'm all misty now. I am just SO excited & happy for you, and your little girl... *sniffle* Happy, happy, wonderful thoughts!
Posted by: Krista at October 01, 2009 03:11 AM (sUTgZ)
NO BANG FOR THE BUCK
I reiterate that I think Bjorn Lomborg's argument that crises need to be prioritized is one of the best arguments against stopping global warming. You can grant the premise just for argument's sake but still insist that we shouldn't spend a dollar to get a nickel's worth of good.
Imagine for a moment that the fantasists win the day and that at the
climate conference in Copenhagen in December every nation commits to
reductions even larger than Japan's, designed to keep temperature
increases under 2 degrees Celsius. The result will be a global price
tag of $40 trillion in 2100, to avoid expected climate damage costing
just $1.1 trillion, according to climate economist Richard Tol, a
contributor to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change whose cost
findings were commissioned by the Copenhagen Consensus Center and are
to be published by Cambridge University Press next year.
Unfortunately, no government program has ever been held to the bang-for-your-buck test.
But surely this has to be persuasive, right? How could it not be? I find it persuasive in every instance. Take health care: I don't care if they can promise that everyone will have total coverage and no one will ever be sick again. Our nation simply doesn't have the money now to cover 30 million new people. Even if it were a government program I could get behind like...um...hmm...giving every law-abiding household a handgun and lessons on how to use it, we just are too far in debt to be adding new programs to the list, no matter what they are.
And certainly we have too much debt to spend $40 to get a dollar of benefit.
I JUST WANT TO STAY HOME
On the plane on the way home, I horrifiedly figured out that by the time my baby is born, she will have already been in 18 different states.
I wonder if someone has tried to have a fifty-state baby.
Posted by: Amritas at September 29, 2009 01:26 PM (+nV09)
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I noticed you missed The People's Republic of New Jersey. Probably a wise choice, because if you are in the state for more than thirty-seconds, you'll be taxed for something or other. :-)
Posted by: Jim - PRS at October 02, 2009 03:11 AM (HZ0p9)
I GOT THE COOKIE
SpouseBUZZ Live is going well, as usual. It was nice to see each other, and we're all very relieved that we didn't have to deliver WifeUnit's baby. She was supposed to come this weekend and instead decided to stay home and deliver a preemie. Holy cow. I wonder who is bigger, the baby or his ewok?
I also got a very touching gift this weekend. FbL attended the event to represent Soldiers' Angels, and she brought me a blogging inside joke gift, one that first puzzled me but then sunk in.
TRANSCONTINENTAL
I'm leaving this morning for SpouseBUZZ Live Camp Pendleton. Will be in the gulch this weekend and thus out of the loop. Which is good, because I could use a break from the UN and ACORN.
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CALMLY HAPPY
Last year, Army Blogger Wife mailed me her home doppler machine. I was so excited to use it, but unfortunately I just kept using it on dead babies. So this time around, I left it in the drawer and just relied on the weekly ultrasounds.
Last night I was lying in bed, trying to will the baby to kick where I could feel it. I am so anxious for that stage. I am looking forward to having the companionship, to there being someone else besides the dog whose presence is felt in my house. And while I was lying there thinking about her, I suddenly remembered the doppler.
I found her easily, and grinned. And then called my parents entirely too late at night so they could both listen.
I'm still mildly wary of the whole thing. When friends get excited and squeal "You're having a baby!", I sometimes feel a stab of fear. Like we all need to rein it in and be calmly happy instead of cartwheels happy.
But I calmly happily listened to baby's heartbeat last night.
I'm not sure how far along you are, but I understand that different people feel kicks at different times during pregnancy. I always thought they'd feel like actual "kicks", but I remember thinking that they felt more like little air bubbles - like the ones in an aquarium might feel if inside your belly! Another trick I remember was to drink a few oz of orange juice and lie still on the floor or bed. The sugar rush will get the baby moving.
I've never posted before, but do enjoy reading. Enjoy the rest of your pregnancy!
Posted by: Maria at September 22, 2009 12:21 PM (mKRWK)
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Totally (calmly) excited for you! I thought that was an entirely soothing device for the time before (and even after) you get to the kick counting stage. A peace of mind. And the oj (or pine orange banana) is really magic when it comes to getting the baby to act like you have Stevie Wonder's Musiquarium ablastin' in your uterus.
Posted by: wifeunit at September 22, 2009 04:06 PM (4B1kO)
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I am calmly extremely happy for you. I will be cartwheel happy when baby is here.
Posted by: Mare at September 23, 2009 07:29 AM (HUa8I)
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Totally calm, totally happy for you. Think serene....
Posted by: tibby at September 23, 2009 10:07 AM (S/Fac)
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I'm glad it's working out for you. I know it put my mind to ease a LOT during my pregnancy with Junior and Abs.
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Any day now you should start to feel her kick. And that was my favorite part of being pregnant - that little secret of sorts between my baby and me. No one else (until the later stages when I looked like something out of the movie 'Alien') was in on the secret unless I allowed it. And it was incredibly reassuring for me as I bled both times I was pregnant and was somewhat wary (not to the extent you are) as well.
You look wonderful by the way!
Posted by: HomefrontSix at September 26, 2009 06:15 PM (BZ+pH)
MY AFGHANISTAN SIGHS
I don't like thinking about Afghanistan. I don't like reading about it, I don't like stressing about it. One of my friends said she was worried all weekend that I hadn't heard from my husband because she had read about some local soldiers being killed. I didn't even know it had happened. I have busied myself with domestic issues and ostriched myself to the war. And since my husband cannot tell me what he does and cannot talk about his life, it's easy to forget that he's not just away at summer camp.
But now with discussions of whether Obama will send additional troops, I have been forced to think about it a little. But reading and thinking about it just ruffles me more. Like this:
Hence nation-building would be impossible even if we knew how, and even
if Afghanistan were not the second-worst place to try: The Brookings
Institution ranks Somalia as the only nation with a weaker state.
Notwithstanding al-Qaeda’s departure, the idea now seems to be that we
should substantially escalate our military involvement in Afghanistan
to replicate the experiment that supposedly worked so well in Iraq.
It’s the age of Obama, so our commanders are talking not about combat
but about a stimulus package to fight the “culture of poverty.†As
military officials described it to the New York Times,
“the overriding goal of American and NATO forces would not be so much
to kill Taliban insurgents as to make ordinary Afghans feel secure, and
thus isolate the insurgents. That means using force less and focusing
on economic development and good governance.†This is consistent with
the delusional belief that terrorism is caused by poverty, corruption,
resentment, Guantanamo Bay, enhanced interrogation tactics, Israel — in
short, anything other than an ideology rooted in Islamic scripture. But
before we all laugh George Will out of the room, we might remember that
the Taliban was not our reason for invading. We would not have gone to
war to save Afghanistan from the Taliban — which is to say, to save
Afghanistan from itself.
Fred Barnes said last night that it's telling that McChrystal, who is at heart a counter-terrorism guy, is requesting additional troops for counter-insurgency. I hope he knows what he's doing. I hope he gets it right.
Posted by: Erin at September 22, 2009 09:34 AM (pK1qw)
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Me too. My son is over there. I avoid the news, I avoid the blogs, I try not to know. Because there really isn't anything productive that I can do. So I make him peanut butter fudge and don't think.
Posted by: tibby at September 22, 2009 09:45 AM (S/Fac)
CONSTITUTION DAY FAIL
My government class in high school was a joke. We just memorized and regurgitated how many representatives there are and how old they have to be to run, and then we watched Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and hoped that somehow we would all learn how this marvelous American experiment works. FAIL. Completely.
I was just reading an article about how a Muslim girl is suing Abercrombie and Fitch because they discriminated against her for wearing a headscarf. In the comments section, a different Muslim girl is arguing that everyone has the Constitutional right to work wherever they want. She said a size 20 woman has the right to be a runway model. Quote: "That's the right of an American citizen per our grand Constitution."
Does anyone even read the Constitution anymore? Apparently everyone's high school government class was as bad as mine.
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Well, I think everyone should have the right to be an airline pilot, especially those who are too dumb to pass either the practical or written test. And I think those who share the attitudes in the thread you mention should be restricted to flying with such pilots.
Posted by: david foster at September 19, 2009 08:17 AM (uWlpq)
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Same for brain surgeons. One for those of us who require education and certification, another for those who think everyone has a right to be whatever they want to be.
Posted by: chuck at September 19, 2009 01:49 PM (bMH2g)
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I do believe that I would be an astronaut. No,I have no background or training,thanks. Don't need it apparently.
My Civics class was taught by a Mr McKinney. Who was the varsity boys basketball coach. In Indiana,it is a big deal.
Mr McKinney would give us a worksheet on Monday and that same worksheet was the test on Friday. We had the class time to find the information to answer the quiz cum test questions.
It was a joke. I was angry that McKinney spent the whole time diagramming plays on the blackboard.
Some of us did our own version of the class in the back of the room because (IMAGINE!) we were interested.
We formed our own kitchen cabinet and studied the depts in it. Got into some interesting debates as well.
We were told to pipe down. Ruining his concentration,don't you know.
McKinney did go on to another school after aa few years and won the state championship. So glad that he reached his goals in life. Snort.
Posted by: MaryIndiana at September 20, 2009 01:47 AM (09ovY)
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Heck, I'd be happy if our elected representatives had the barest inkling of what is in the Constitution and what this country was founded on.
Sigh.
Posted by: MargeinMI at September 20, 2009 08:02 AM (gXnOq)
"I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but there is no guarantee of equal results"
One of Glenn Beck's 9 principles of his 9/12 project.
Posted by: tim at September 21, 2009 11:22 AM (nno0f)
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You got to watch "Mr. Smith goes to Washington?" I didn't get to watch that...in fact, I don't remember who my Gov teacher was...who was yours? Everything I ever needed to know about Gov I learned from Mr. DeFabbio via history classes...but hey, you got to watch a movie ;-)
Posted by: Matt at September 21, 2009 08:29 PM (wNBv7)
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Matt -- We also got to watch 12 Angry Men to learn about the judicial system. Sigh. I had Mr. Moore, who was a new teacher, straight out of college. He was kind of a douchebag.
Posted by: Sarah at September 22, 2009 07:17 AM (2Hw+P)
I want to use all elements of American
power to keep us safe, and prosperous, and free. Instead of alienating
ourselves from the world, I want America - once again - to lead.
As President, I will pursue a
tough, smart and principled national security strategy - one that
recognizes that we have interests not just in Baghdad, but in Kandahar
and Karachi, in Tokyo and London, in Beijing and Berlin.
An editorial in Hospodarske Novine, a respected pro-business Czech
newspaper, said: "an ally we rely on has betrayed us, and exchanged us
for its own, better relations with Russia, of which we are rightly
afraid."
So we elected Obama to end the era of unilateralism, to mend fences with alienated allies and make the world love and respect us again.
Except for the Eastern bloc, who backed George Bush. They can get bent.
[Polish Prime Minister] Tusk did not sound pleased with Obama's announcement, telling Polish radio on Thursday,
"It was an autonomous decision taken by President Barack Obama" that did not involve the Polish government.
The Neville Chamberlain comparison is one that many people are using these days, but it's really unfair--to Chamberlain, that is.
Although Chamberlain pursued a very unwise policy of appeasement, he also hedged this policy by supporting the buildup of Britain's defenses...including production of the Spitfire & Hurricane fighters and the deployment of the world's first radar-based air defense network.
Had Chamberlain fully shared Obama's attitudes on defense, these systems never would have made it out of the design offices, and Britain would probably have lost the war.
Posted by: david foster at September 19, 2009 08:14 AM (uWlpq)
EFFECTIVE OUTCOMES
I am feeling less unsettled lately...
After the huge march on Washington last weekend, and the defunding of ACORN this week, I am feeling more like We the People can pressure the government to represent us.
Here are a few things that regular old Americans have achieved since I wrote that I was unsettled:
For an explanation of the list, in case you're not familiar with all of them, listen here.
I am feeling more optimistic.
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I'm surprised because I tend to think that there isn't that much of a difference between Us and Them. I generally can't tell from someone's behavior which side they're on.
It'd be interesting to see if red state parks are cleaner than blue state ones.
The comparison of the Washington Mall photos isn't quite fair because the inauguratiOn photo was taken in winter. The lack of green makes the Mall look worse. Still, the point remains. I'd expect a protest fueled by negative feelings* to leave more rubbish than a celebratory inauguration, yet the reverse happened!
*Yes, I know the protestors were motivated out of love for America. But when one's mad about America turning into Omerica, one might litter without a second thought. Or not!
Posted by: Amritas at September 17, 2009 12:36 PM (+nV09)
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Why should I trust photos posted at American Thinker? (What a misnomer. True thinkers don't have their doubleplus ungOOd thoughts.) Oh, excuuuuse us, Gateway Pundit. The 9/12 photos were probably photoshopped: rubbish was removed and extra people were added. 99.99% of Omericans want Dr. gOvernment.
That 0.01% that bothered to show up probably drove away in Gaia-tormenting SUVs while the millions that came to the enthrOnement came in Priuses (Barack bless 'em) and peOple's transportation. The pictures don't tell the whole story. If a picture is worth a thousand words, there could be nine thousand other words we won't deign to say.
And let's suppose that the peOple really did make a mess. Is that really such a bad thing? Think of all the people employed to clean up that mess! All the jobs created by his ascensiOn! Break a window for Barack!
Posted by: kevin at September 17, 2009 12:48 PM (+nV09)
I'm not sure that a comparison of "red" and "blue" national parks would do it, either.
Blue areas tend to be more urban than red areas; and urban areas tend to be a lot nastier trash wise. I'm not sure how much of that can realistically be laid at the feet of political belief systems, because I think the sheer number of people in one area tends to cause more of the ugliness than the fact that urban areas tend to be blue.
Another factor I think might play into the issue is self identity. I try to keep my house looking nice (or rather, I'm fixing my house up) because I want to be proud of where I live. If you don't have any vested pride in something, why bother to take care of it?
Posted by: airforcewife at September 17, 2009 03:18 PM (9sMSe)
Some conservative blogs have been circulating photos allegedly taken
during the rally. But at least one fact-checking site says the photos
are fakes ...
Politifact, a nonpartisan journalistic fact-checking organization,
checked in on Monday with Pete Piringer, public affairs officer for the
DC Fire and Emergency Department. Piringer “unofficially†estimated
that between 60,000 and 75,000 people had shown up. He added that the
photo circulating conservative sites was almost certainly not from this
year.
The caption for the photo at the top speaks of "photos" being "fakes". Many will not read the actual article which only discusses one fake photo. One commenter noticed this act of legerdemot:
To imply that *all* of the 9/12 photos are fakes based on this one
photo, which I have only seen here, being called out as fake is a
blatant propaganda move. Not journalism.
"It is one of our basic tasks to contrapose our own truth to bourgeois 'truth', and win its recognition.
The transition from bourgeois society to the policy of the proletariat is a very difficult one, all the more so for the bourgeoisie incessantly slandering us through its entire apparatus of propaganda and agitation. It bends every effort to play down an even more important mission of the dictatorship of the proletariat, its educational mission ..."
Teach us mOre, o MSM!
Posted by: kevin at September 18, 2009 10:19 AM (+nV09)
I suggested parks because comparing blue cities with red towns makes no sense for the reasons you stated:
Blue areas tend to be more urban than red areas; and urban areas tend
to be a lot nastier trash wise. I'm not sure how much of that can
realistically be laid at the feet of political belief systems, because
I think the sheer number of people in one area tends to cause more of
the ugliness than the fact that urban areas tend to be blue.
I presume there is no difference in human density among the visitors to blue and red parks. There is, however, a complicating factor I overlooked: visitors to parks can come from other areas. If a park's visitors are overwhelmingly non-local, the condition of the park tells us nothing about local behavior. Moreover, most visitors to a red park could be blue, and vice versa.
In any case, my guess is that there is no difference between blue and red parks in terms of cleanliness. Do parks in, say, California have a bad reputation?
I try to keep my house looking nice (or rather, I'm fixing my house up)
because I want to be proud of where I live. If you don't have any
vested pride in something, why bother to take care of it?
Leftists feel this pride too. Look at how nice the houses of the elite are. But how proud do the tenants of public housing feel? As Rick Moran wrote,
On the other hand, liberals
don't see public property as their concern, but rather that of the
government. When everyone owns the land, no one is responsible for it
in their calculation.
Yet we must all pay for public property. And we must pay more as the public sector grOws.
Posted by: Amritas at September 18, 2009 11:26 AM (+nV09)
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I forgot to mention that you can always trust "a nonpartisan journalistic fact-checking organization".
In nOwOmOwa (from Polish for 'Newspeak'), words like nonpartisan and neutral really mean prOgressive. Which as we all know really means back to the glorious socialism of the past. Now that's progress - in a wOrld where blue means 'Red'.
Ever notice how you hear about the center-left, but never the center-right? How the gOOd guys are always moderates while you are extremists? We control language. We control people's perceptions of reality. Even conservatives often think within the confines of our framework.
... nowadays the left-wing position is actually considered the default ...
I reject so many of these so-called non-partisan positions ...
So in normal discussions with Democrats, I am always operating from a disadvantage, because "conventional wisdom" or "normal people" usually grant these premises. I'm always frustrated because I don't accept the underlying foundation of their arguments, which makes it hard to have a discussion because to them, this is the normal default position ...
I believe that the Republican Party will never be a success if it keeps granting Democrat premises. It can't keep trying to find right-wing solutions to things that many right-wingers don't accept as the default. McCain let Obama frame the debates ...
Nobody I know wanted to vote for Democrat Lite, but that's what we were getting served.
Get ready for a second serving in 2012! victOry is inevitable!
Posted by: kevin at September 18, 2009 11:56 AM (+nV09)
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And we finally found an issue where we disagree 100% with President Obama. Kanye West is a herO for standing up to Europpression. Beyonce's video was better and you all know it. Copy Kanye!
HELP, HELP, I'M BEING OPPRESSED!
I was racially discriminated against today.
I got in a black cashier's line at Walmart. She took the lady in front of me and then switched off her light, saying that I'd have to change lines because she needed to close down for a few minutes. So I hopped over to the line next to hers, behind three other people. The black cashier finished up with the lady she was helping, puttered around for about 30 seconds, found out that she was no longer needed to help clean up another register, and then turned her light back on and motioned for a black lady who was just walking up to the checkout area to get in her line.
Raaaaacist! She helped a black customer instead of telling me to go ahead and get back in her line! She took a black lady who'd just arrived to checkout instead of white me, who'd been waiting for several minutes! I need a Beer Summit!
94 percent of African-American eighth graders reported to Harris-Britt
that they'd felt discriminated against in the prior three months.
Now, I don't really think it was racial discrimination at Walmart. I think the cashier was kinda boorish and lazy, and that she didn't care who she helped next as long as she was doing her job. When I called her on it, she apologized as if the thought had never crossed her mind to ask me to return to her line. She didn't do it because I was white; she did it because she was unobservant and clueless.
But it got me thinking and I remembered the above statistic from a recent Newsweek article about children's racial attitudes. If almost every single black pre-teen says they're constantly being discriminated against, then it seems to me that, if the tables were turned and a white cashier helped a white customer over a black one, some people out there are interpreting that as racism.
I don't think it's racism. I think it's laziness, or bad manners, or tunnel vision you get from doing the same mundane task all day long. But I don't for one second think she pushed me out of her line because I was white. But do black people think that? It seems some of these pre-teens probably do. How else could they all say they've been discriminated against recently? A few may have truly met with bigotry, but a good number of them must just be interpreting the slightest offenses as racism.
It just got me thinking that, if you try to find slights based on skin color, you will see them. But I'd bet that much of the "discrimination" people feel they're encountering is just a misunderstanding or a breakdown in acceptable social behavior, not racism.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
You can pretty easily substitute laziness for stupidity, I'd say.
Another favorite saying of mine is that when you're holding a hammer all of your problems look like nails. So, if you've been told all of your life that you're a victim, you start looking for proof.
Posted by: Christa at September 15, 2009 01:06 PM (2qSbp)
Reading this post embodied your last point. I wanted to look for a nail after the first sentence. Then I got to the incident, initially thought that it was a nail - that it was racist - and then instantly realized, hey, wait, this could have happened for nonracial reasons.
Most of the cashiers at stores near me are black. I'm not black, and I probably had the same thing happen to me, but I never thought anything of it. I didn't take out my Victimâ„¢ hammer because I wasn't thinking of nails. I'm not white either. But when my interactions with whites go wrong, I almost never see any nails. I can only think of two or three incidents in my entire life that might have been racist. Might.
Those kids need desensitivity training. They need to be told that not everything is a nail. Don't take out that hammer unless you're certain you need it. Otherwise you look paranoid and no one but your fellow 'victims' will take you seriously anymore.
Posted by: Amritas at September 15, 2009 02:17 PM (+nV09)
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As a half black woman speaking, I have experienced this crap from more and more people on a general basis. People are lazy and stupid. Growing up I was not taught that is was alright to cry wolf every time I did not win, get my way, or just wanted something. I had to earn certain things on merit and forgive others because people may just not know, or see. Is that an excuse? No it is not but it is life all around us everyday. If someone goes looking for a frog in the desert then they will find one.
Posted by: Reasa at September 15, 2009 02:47 PM (uKniq)
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Sarah, you can't be discriminated against. You are white.
Racism is a black thing, you can't possibly understand.
Kill Whitey!
Posted by: chuck at September 16, 2009 12:05 AM (bMH2g)
I work as a trainer at Petsmart. Sometimes when we are really busy they make me cashier because I'm not 18 and have a brain. When we open up a new register we take the next person in line. It does not matter what color they are.
I will however cop to the fact that if a customer comes into my store and they are wearing an abaya and I cannot see their face. I will not wait on them unless I am cashiering and then I have to. 99.9% of the women who comes in wearing them, I'd say there are about a half dozen maybe more per day where I work, are black. It has nothing to do with them being another color. It has everything to do with the fact that I find it absolutely offensive that after all the work that has been done by women's rights activitists that an American woman would chose to subjugate herself in this way.
Plus I just find it straight up offensive that American's choose to dress this way while we are war. I guess I'm a bigot. But I don't really care. My favorite was the 16 year old who came in wearing a hajib scarf, the TIGHTEST pair of jean's I have ever seen, and a half shirt with most of her cleavage hanging out.
Time for me to break out my Infidel t-shirt and my Dad's old hat from when he was stationed at Guantanamo Naval Air Station. I'll let you know if I get fired.
Posted by: Mare at September 16, 2009 08:51 AM (HUa8I)
BORLAUG CARRIED A WATERMELON
I'm a few days late, but I was finally prompted to say something because of Patrick Swayze. I don't mean to denigrate him at all; he was a fine actor and probably a fine man. (He was in Red Dawn, for pete's sake, so that automatically makes him OK in my book.) But a couple days ago, Deskmerc was the only one of my Facebook friends to salute the passing of Norman Borlaug. As of last night, dozens of people were saluting Swayze. I think that's exactly backwards, and while everyone is touched that Johnny won't dance again, myself included, we all missed the fact that the greatest man who ever lived passed away this week too.
We are still cavepeople. We feel more for what we can see. We saw Patrick Swayze, not just in a brief clip like one you linked to, but in movies watched by millions. Or a movie in my case. I've only seen him in Red Dawn over 20 years ago and have only the vaguest notion of what he looks like. So I had to look up "carried a watermelon".
How many actors from Shakespeare's time are remembered today? Only those who saw those actors perform remember them, and they are as long dead as the actors. But Swayze's image will live on every time a DVD of his performances plays.
I don't care for the cult of the actor. Movies are stories (or are supposed to be stories). Who makes up those stories? Unseen writers. Yet even directors get more attention. But there would be nothing to act out, nothing to direct, without writers. Yet how many people can name the writers of their favorite movies and TV shows?
Writing is abstract and doesn't impress us the way an actor does. Our reactions to actors are no different from a caveman's reactions to an attractive human. We let our instincts overpower our intellect. This is why people sit through bad movies with charismatic actors (and put up with bad but charismatic leaders).
I must have seen Borlaug's name before. I've definitely read about the Green Revolution before and I even mentioned it to you in a recent email (albeit without Borlaug's name). Nonetheless his name didn't stick in my brain. Unlike Swayze, Borlaug was a name without a face. A string of letters that unraveled and disappeared down the memory hole. I had to look him up this morning after you mentioned him. His achievements are hard to visualize:
Borlaug's discoveries have been estimated to have saved over 245 million lives worldwide.
Penn said "a billion people".
We can't see those billion lives being saved. There aren't cameras running to record his process of discovery. And watching people farm and eat isn't exciting, whereas a guy saving a single life on camera is exciting ... and understandable. Most of us don't process big numbers. We can easily envision saving one life, or the lives of everyone on a bus. We've seen such acts dramatized. But a billion lives? We cannot see that many people. It's physically impossible.
So in short, here's the cruel irony: we're hard-wired to admire the small and concrete but neglect the great and abstract. Man can do amazing things, but other men may not care - even though they may depend on the hidden and virtuous for their very lives!
Virtue is its own reward. Do what's right, even if you'll never be recognized. Be like Borlaug.
Posted by: Amritas at September 15, 2009 11:27 AM (+nV09)
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Take a look at this (well, maybe you shouldn't): "The feted agronomist may have saved a billion from starvation, but..." How can anyone write "but" after "may have saved a billion from starvation"?
Posted by: David Boxenhorn at September 16, 2009 01:01 AM (/+KQb)
IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM
At PowerLine: "Obama seems increasingly unable to resist the kind of specious
arguments a fairly bright first year law student might make in a crunch." Oy.
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