September 30, 2004
MOCKING
fad had me laughing out loud. At work. Big guffaws.
Go check out
this post, where he announces his intention to become a big-time blogger, and then start scrolling up.
You know you spend too much time at the computer when you recognize everyone he's mocking.
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HEH
(Via
Anders) If Saddam is released, he wants to do one of two things, he told a
Swedish newspaper: either to run for president again in January or to move to Sweden, Switzerland, or Austria. Heh.
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Why not France or Germany? They deserve his presidential presence far more than those three countries.
Posted by: Amritas at September 30, 2004 03:58 AM (WKC0L)
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The truth is that he would have a pretty good chance of winning the Presidency in Iraq.
Read this e-mail from a Wall Street Journal reporter. A real eye opener.
thttp://poynter.org/forum/?id=miscruth
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September 29, 2004
STRESS
It's been hard coming back to my Real Life after a vacation. I have to catch up on all the math I skipped last week. I have to prepare for the next class I'll teach. I have to finish grading the things that came in late from last term. I have so many things to do around the house: grocery shopping, laundry, planting bushes, etc. I have two blankets, a pair of socks, and a sweater to make as soon as possible. I have to enjoy my mom while she's still here. I don't like Real Life; I want to go back to the week when the only stress I had was whether we'd get all the
red jellybeans put together.
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SALUTE
I heard a wonderful story, via my favorite reservist, that I am printing here with his permission. It's an anecdote from Kuwait when he was leaving Iraq for his R&R:
This morning at around 0530, I was walking to breakfast. I noticed the flag raising detail was in place but haven't heard any music so I kept walking. I passed a First Sergeant that was standing at attention and in front of him, a Marine, also at attention. I snapped to attention next to him and remarked that I had not heard any music. The First Sergeant relaxed and said that it hadn't started yet. So we both continued to walk towards the Dining Facility.
I pointed to the Marine still standing there at attention. The First Sergeant called over that it was still going to be a few more minutes if he wanted to keep walking. The Marine looked over and said, "No, I'm going to wait. It's been a long time since I've seen our flag raised."
That stopped me immediately. It has been a long time since I've seen our flag raised as we're prohibited from flying the Stars and Stripes in Iraq. I turned to the First Sergeant and said, "He's right, I'm waiting." A few minutes later the music started. The three of us snapped to attention and saluted.
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And long may she wave. Thanks Sarah.
Posted by: Kathleen A at September 29, 2004 07:36 AM (vnAYT)
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When we finished the POW bit in survival school, we were called to attention by the "Camp Commandant". We didn't know we were done until he gave us an about face. The American flag was flying instead of the one for People's Democratic Republic.
I can't describe that feeling.
Posted by: Mike at September 29, 2004 08:23 AM (MqNKC)
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Here is some very good news about our soldiers in Iraq.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0921/p02s02-usmi.html
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I feel a bit like that everytime I come back into the US and see flags flying everywhere. It's HOME.
And dc, that is very good news. I'd say the fact that most of our soldiers are too smart to be taken in by DNC talking points is a very good thing. You just gave me even more hope for our future!
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Thank you for this wonderful anecdote. It warmed my heart.
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September 28, 2004
LINKS
What an awesome
wish...
Flirting With Disaster
Troops Demoralized?
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All Mrs Heinz-Kerry said was she would not be surprised if Osama turned up in October, and frankly Sarah being a generation older than you it wouldn't surprise me either. You see the world thru a very different prism than I. You have optimism and hope, I have my cynicism. As the great Ambrose Bierce once said :
"A cynic is a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, and not as they ought to be." After you have a couple of children, and have a mortgage, you may become more cynical, or perhaps not. I am hugely in favor of cynical though.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at September 28, 2004 09:36 PM (4pVZJ)
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Regarding optimism & hope vs cynicism, let me quote another writer...Georges Bernanos, writing in 1940 about those who had refused to believe England could hold out against the Nazis:
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No one knows better than I do that, in the course of centuries, all the great stories of the world end by becoming children's tales. But this particular one (the story of England's resistance--ed) has started its life as such, has become a children's tale on the very threshold of its existence. It mean that we can at once recognize in it the threefold visible sign of its nature. it has deceived the anticipations of the wise, it has humiliated the weak-hearted, it has staggered the fools. Last June all these folk from one end of the world to the other, no matter what the color of their skins, were shaking their heads. Never had they been so old, never had they been so proud of being old. All the figures that they had swallowed in the course of their miserable lives as a safeguard against the highly improbable activity of their emotions had choked the channels of circulation..They were ready to prove that with the Armistice of Rethondes the continuance of the war had become a mathematical impossibility...Some chuckled with satisfaction at the thought, but they were not the most dangerous...Others threatened us with the infection of pity..."Alone against the world," they said. "Why, what is that but a tale for children?" And that is precisely what it was--a tale for children. Hurrah for the children of England!
Men of England, at this very moment you are writing what public speakers like to describe in their jargon as one of the "greatest pages of history"....At this moment you English are writing one of the greatest pages of history, but I am quite sure that when you started, you meant it as a fairy tale for children. "Once upon a time there was a little island, and in that island there was a people in arms against the world..." Faced with such an opening as that, what old cunning fox of politics or business would not have shrugged his shoulders and closed the book?
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Posted by: David Foster at September 28, 2004 11:58 PM (XUtCY)
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Nice one David, but since you went English on me allow me to throw back at you the words of another Englishman: George Bernard Shaw (my favorite essayist)
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." A rather nice summation if you ask me.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at September 29, 2004 01:48 AM (4pVZJ)
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I think of realism and cynicism as two entirely different things. Also, I'd like to observe that many of those who are cynical about the motivations of the Bush administration in Iraq are entirely non-cynical (are, indeed, completely naive) about the motivations of the Chirac administration.
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woops, sorry I meant to put the link on this thread.
Very good news out of Iraq:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0921/p02s02-usmi.html
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MISS
I know he's not coming back. I know. But it seemed so
final when I read
this post that I actually began to cry. His was the first blog I ever read. His was the first blog I checked every morning. He was the one who catapulted me into blogging about a year ago. And he has given me something for which I will always be grateful: the slow, painful journey of learning how to think.
I just miss him, that's all.
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It's always sad when your blogfather goes away.
Posted by: Tom at September 28, 2004 05:51 PM (kmiNS)
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Because by definition according to Frank J., your blogfather is the one who got you into blogging.
Posted by: Tom at September 28, 2004 05:52 PM (kmiNS)
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::sigh:: A giant.. gnawed by rats.
He was my first blog too..... In some ways he was our Mark Twain.. prolific.. with that touch of greatness.
Posted by: LarryConley at September 29, 2004 02:46 AM (aontM)
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We'll always the archives...
Posted by: david at September 29, 2004 03:23 AM (1+76a)
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I only removed him from my blogroll yesterday...
It's a big loss, though it would have been even worse before Wretchard got started.
Still, I miss those mile-long posts full of huge thoughts that would send me into hour-long Googling and reading sprees. I still remember the one and only time he linked to me, too. -smug-
Let's hope Steven can get back to blogging again, sans ankle-biters.
Posted by: Dominic at September 29, 2004 06:44 AM (pqgq+)
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He'll return, no one can resist the darkside....
Wait until after the election when all the vile bile has been spewed. His own interests will require him to write, and once it is written, there is nothing left to do but post.
Posted by: John at September 29, 2004 08:14 AM (crTpS)
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The fact that he's putting his energies into writing about anime has me agog. Not that *I* should say anything, but it is still rather like finding out Stephen Hawking has decided to set aside his work on black holes in order to delve deeply into the intricacies of Magic: The Gathering.
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September 26, 2004
MORE ON ITALY
I found common ground with a porcelain artist in Nove, Italy.
You all know that I love my identity as a military wife, but the worst feeling in the world is that split second right after you have to answer the "Why are you living in Germany?" question. You never know what to expect from your European questioner. Most often you get that "oh", that bit of surprise that you're not here to bum around Europe "finding yourself" by getting drunk with Australians. Sometimes you get that recoil, and you feel the mood of the conversation change. Sometimes you get the look of pity, like it must be so miserable living under the thumb of the New Hitler.
And sometimes you get the, "Sure, I know where you live. I used to train in Grafenwoehr when I was in the Italian military."
Mom and I had a wonderful talk with this porcelain artist, and we could find enough common ground to really try to understand each other. He confessed to full support of the war in Iraq -- he likes the flypaper concept -- but admitted that he doesn't always think President Bush is best for the world. He he thought that a president who would kiss France's butt a little would be better for other countries in the EU. I can see where he's coming from: As an American, I don't give a flying leap what France and Germany think, but I can now see better how the smaller EU countries do have to play the cooperation game, even though this Italian man rolled his eyes and agreed that it was farcical. Mom was extremely forthright and asked him many questions to which I feared the answers, but we learned a lot from him, and hopefully he from us.
So I didn't get to meet Serenade, but we met his kindred spirit.
Overall, I found Italy to be quite pleasant. All of the people we met seemed to be genuinely happy to meet us Americans, and one of them even went on and on about how much she loved Wisconsin. Really. I've never heard a foreigner speak of anywhere but NYC, LA, or Vegas. The loving way she spoke about Wisconsin was quite touching.
The Italians also seemed thrilled that I had spent a day teaching myself a bit of Italian. All I did was teach myself a bit of non parlo italiano and quanto questa, but I guess the effort went a long way. I found the language to be quite easy to pick up, albeit on a superficial level. I crutched on my French and guessed by saying the latin root with an Italian accent a couple of times and managed to get along quite well. I also had a not-ugly-American moment when we wanted to ask a shopkeeper a question and my Italian simply wouldn't do: we asked if he spoke any English, and he shrugged apologetically and said, "Non...Deutsch." Well then, I thought, and asked the question auf Deutsch. Heh. And I speak two other languages that didn't even enter into the picture, buddy. Now go tell your friends that there are Americans who aren't monolingual jerks.
The Italians loved pointing and whispering about my American-issued license plate, I ate the same pizza at the same restaurant three nights in a row, it was that good, and I burned a ton of gas driving up and down those mountains. What a week.
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Seeing I'm living in London at the moment, it would have been quite surprising to meet me in Folgarida - especially while there's no snow there! Try again in 3 or 4 months' time, when I should be in the vicinity... but you'll have to be quick to catch me, I'm getting
good on a snowboard now!
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COMPARISON
We went to a concentration camp today. It was raining and I was very cold, but not as cold as they were. I was frightened by the enormous pyramid of ashes, but not as frightened as they were. I felt angry when I heard some German start yelling, but not as angry as they were. And I cried when I was by myself, but not as often as they did.
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Posted by: Mike at September 26, 2004 04:03 PM (+sj2x)
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When I was at Dachau, years ago, German school children (appx. 12-16) were running around and giggling.
At Dachau. Giggling.
Posted by: Sparky at September 26, 2004 05:53 PM (swRUK)
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I just linked this post, which I thought was exceptionally well-written.
You might be interested in my post about a woman who was killed in Dachau, here:
http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/2004_09_01_photoncourier_archive.html#109491535757315983
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CATCH UP
We had access to CNN World on our TV, so we watched it periodically to get an idea of what was going on in the world. I never watch the news, so the whole thing was quite infuriating. There were several times I wanted to throw something at the news anchors for the obvious way they were leading their interviewees (One guy badgered the Nigerian president with the same question asked four different ways because he wasn't getting the answer he wanted to hear. And then he shrugged and basically accused the president of lying!) I wanted to rip the larynx out of
Richard Quest.
I started trying to catch up on everything I've missed this week, but I realized it was futile. If you can think of something that I should read that was posted or was not presented on CNN World this week (heh), then mention it in the comments and I'll check it out.
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Sounds like you had my dream vacation. Vacations should be about relaxing; trips are for seeing things.
VDH had an editorial in this week's OpinionJournal. DenBeste is still gone;(, Whittle is getting ready--his page was blank yesterday, Rev. Sensing of One Hand Clapping is also taking leave of the blogoshere
That's just off the top of my head.
Posted by: MargeinMI at September 26, 2004 09:52 AM (lES3B)
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I suffered through Quest's appearances last year when I was in the Middle East. Even the Brits don't much care for him.
Posted by: Mike at September 26, 2004 01:53 PM (+sj2x)
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Quest went from the BBC to CNN. I guess the Beeb wasn't Marxist enough for him!
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ITALY
In a normal week, I drive perhaps 15 or 20 miles. This week I drove 1300. In a normal week, I do three things: work, knit, and blog. This week I didn't do any of those activities. It was a week of doing things that were out of the ordinary.
I painted my fingernails. That may not seem so exciting, but I realized that I hadn't made the time to do that small task in nearly a year. I read 500 pages of my book. I worked obsessively on this puzzle. I went to see this man. I bought a set of these. And when I walked out of our residenza, this is what I saw.
We went to a ski resort in September. There was no snow, there were no people, and there was nothing pressing to do. The resort owner seemed embarrassed and apologetic that we had come at such a boring time, but it was exactly what I wanted. For me, a true vacation is about doing nothing. I did a lot of nothing this week; it was wonderful.
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Welcome back! I missed you!
"I do three things: work, knit, and blog"
... and study! Still don't know how you do it all.
"This week I didn't do any of those activities."
So how did you manage to wish Pixy a happy birthday?
"I went to see this man."
For a second I thought you meant serenade. Maybe next time ...
Posted by: Amritas at September 26, 2004 05:21 AM (PzREt)
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Bunker did me the favor of posting the photo for me on Misa's birthday...and I didn't get to meet Serenade, but I met many people like him. I will explain more about that this evening...right before I study for the stats test I have to make up tomorrow!
Posted by: Sarah at September 26, 2004 06:06 AM (AJ3qj)
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So, make us jealous! How much did one plate cost you in Italy?
Posted by: Oda Mae at September 26, 2004 06:18 AM (yeG9M)
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Heh. Four euros per plate, and I got some seconds with minor flaws for one euro each. I love that pattern.
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September 20, 2004
TO MY BLOGFATHER
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September 18, 2004
VACATION
My life this week has been filled with hurry-up-and-relax. I race to work, race home, race back to class, race to find time to spend with my mom, and race to sleep. But I'm done now; it's vacation time. In two hours, Mom and I will pile into the car and head
here. For a whole week. With no plans, no alarm clocks, no superscript th, no work, and no stress. And likely no internet. I'll return next weekend; in the meantime, enjoy the sidebar.
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Have a great vacation! My two week leave is coming to an end in a few days. Everyone needs a break; enjoy yours. R1
Posted by: Randy at September 18, 2004 04:16 AM (xNLD4)
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Sarah and Mom, have a great trip! Be safe.
Posted by: Kathleen A at September 18, 2004 10:11 AM (vnAYT)
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Enjoy Folgarida - it's fantastic!
Come back rested and ready for action once more...
Posted by: Dominic at September 19, 2004 07:12 AM (5KuRx)
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Even if you *do* have access to the internet, don't use it! A vacation from the web is the most relaxing kind of vacation.
But, do let us know about the trip, that place looks beautiful!
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September 17, 2004
ALTERNATE UNIVERSE
What if it
hadn't been John Kerry?
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SUBTITLES
Amritas weighs in on
subtitling Fahrencrap 9/11 into Farsi at the screening in Iran. I started emailing him but then decided to post my thoughts here too. When I lived in Angers, there was one movie theater that didn't dub movies, and that was the only one we ever went to. I saw some pretty interesting movies with French subtitles, and I can certainly say that there were numerous jokes that went right over their heads. Often they didn't even bother to try to translate stuff. Some movies just don't translate well:
The Big Lebowski,
Buffalo 66, and
Smoke. The subtitling for these movies was pitiful; there's no way the European viewers got even half of what we got out of the movies. We would be cracking up, and they'd stare at us like we were nuts. And that's just the actual dialogue; the culltural references didn't make sense, even to the English-able Brits. There's one scene where these gangstas come by the store, and the Brits were laughing at them: "They don't look so tough; I bet I could take that guy," they said. An American friend dared them to come to her neighborhood in the States and roll up to a character like that!
On the Pulp Fiction soundtrack, there are snippets of dialogue from the movie. My French roommate in college borrowed the CD from me and was visibly shocked when she heard the diner dialogue, you know, the one with the "sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie" bit. She made me play it over and over again, repeating the dialogue more slowly so she could understand, and she swore up and down that she had never heard that in the French version she saw. She claims that the exchange never even happened, not even something similar to it. I've always wondered what the French version of Pulp Fiction was like, but I've never seen it myself.
Maybe on the next trip over the border.
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INTERVIEW
I read this
long interview with John Kerry (thanks to
this comments section), and I don't think I understand him any better. He naturally goes through a long list of reasons why the W stands for wrong, instead of answering the direct, completely un-vague question that was posed.
IMUS: What is this plan you have?
KERRY: Well, the plan gets more complicated every single day because the president...
IMUS: Try to simplify it for me so I can understand it.
...
KERRY: Well, Don, I realize that, but the fact is that the president is the president. I mean, what you ought to be doing and what everybody in America ought to be doing today is not asking me; they ought to be asking the president, What is your plan?
He rambles for a bit, and then the interviewer throws him a ba-zing:
IMUS: We're asking you because you want to be president.
Indeed. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas in Cambodia. But what are you going to do about it, Kerry? Stop saying what we should be asking the President and start explaining why we should vote for you. What would you do differently, and don't give me this bullcrap about bringing allies to the table. No single country has agreed to do anything differently, even if you're President. You criticize the President for "not having a plan to win the peace"; explain why you think the world will be more peaceful if you yank all the troops out. Explain it, please. Cuz last year you said
Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture, don't have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president.
More stuff from the interview:
IMUS: Did you read "Unfit for Command?"
KERRY: No.
IMUS: Did anybody on your staff?
KERRY: I have no idea.
IMUS: Why wouldn't you want to know what's in it? It's the No. 1 "New York Times," of course, it says nonfiction bestseller.
KERRY: Because they have right wing people to buy them in bulk, and that's what they're doing.
Can't possibly be individuals who want to search for the truth themselves rather than buying what CBS is peddling? It's gotta be Karl Rove buying books by the crate and turning them into fertilizer for Bush's secret cocaine stash. Please. You can't be president if you believe in a book-buying conspiracy. (By the way, none of these conspiracy nutjobs are mature enough to be president either.)
Here's a zinger of a question:
IMUS: Back in May of 2001 on "Meet the Press," you said you yourself have committed the same kinds of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers in violation of the Geneva Conventions. And my question, Senator Kerry, is, is there a difference between what happened in your case in Vietnam and what happened at Abu Ghraib, in that both were acts in violation of the Geneva Conventions?
KERRY: There is a difference.
IMUS: What is it?
KERRY: There is a difference. What I was referring to in that testimony was the general categorization of free-fire zones in Vietnam and the general categorizations of some of the weapons that were being used, which were in violation of the accords. We didn't learn that until we came home. I didn't know any of that while I was there. I didn't know any of that over there, nor did most soldiers.
That sounds mighty different from what he said before about Jengis Khan. That wasn't just weapons types, that was
They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
Why can't we get a straight story out of this man?
IMUS: Do you think there are any circumstances we should have gone to war in Iraq -- any?
KERRY: Not under the current circumstances, no, there are none that I see.
But he just got done saying something that sounds different...
KERRY: Let me explain it to you. I felt in 1998, and I said that Clinton ought to have the power, the authority to use force, in order to force Saddam Hussein to have inspectors, to be able to disarm. The only way to get the inspectors in was to be tough, to have the threat of force and the authority to use force. I was prepared to use the force if he didn't do what he needed to do. But I warned the president, as did many people, take the time to build up the international coalition, don't rush to war, because the most difficult part is not winning the military part of the war; it's winning the peace. [emphasis added]
Kerry would've gone to war if "he didn't do what he needed to do." Who is "he"? Saddam, I guess. What did he "need to do"? "Have inspectors" and "be able to disarm". That's an extremely vague sentence, and it would be nice to know what exactly the last straw would've been for Kerry. What exactly would've made him decide it was time to go to war? What exactly would've made it too imminent for him?
What exactly is his platform?
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Jay Leno says Bush got back at Kerry for the "W" line. "Everyone knows 'wrong' begins with 'R'."
I would guess Dubya could laugh at that. Kerry could never laugh at his own expense.
Posted by: Mike at September 17, 2004 07:44 AM (MqNKC)
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Now that we have gone to war, we have discovered that there was no pressing reason to go to war. So... how was Bush right again?
Posted by: yettrab at September 20, 2004 10:56 PM (9AAwc)
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IMUS: Back in May of 2001 on "Meet the Press," you said
you yourself have committed the same kinds of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers in violation of the Geneva Conventions....
KERRY: ... What I was referring to in that testimony was the general categorization of free-fire zones in Vietnam and the general categorizations of some of the weapons that were being used, which were in violation of the accords. We didn't learn that until we came home. I didn't know any of that while I was there. I didn't know any of that over there, nor did most soldiers.
That sounds mighty different from what he said before about Jengis (sic) Khan. That wasn't just weapons types, that was
[Referring to Winter Soldier Investidation]
They told the stories at times
they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.
Why can't we get a straight story out of this man?
Um, I think it's because he's talking about two different things.
Posted by: Cash Flagg at September 21, 2004 04:42 AM (uScBg)
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Please. You can't be president if you believe in a book-buying conspiracy.
Huh, I didn't know that one. I thought the only qualifications for being President were being at least 35 years old, being a natural-born citizen, living in the U.S. for 14 years, and (except in Bush's case) winning a plurality of the vote.
PS. From
The New York Times BestSeller List:
A dagger (+) indicates that some bookstores report receiving bulk orders.
Looks like the New York Times can't be President.
Posted by: Cash Flagg at September 21, 2004 05:01 AM (uScBg)
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I just heard part of John Kerry's speech to the National Guard, just the live snippet that the news played. In it he criticized the President, saying that 95% of the cost of the Gulf War was paid by our allies. That was shocking to me, so I looked it up. The
two figures I found amounted to only 88%, so I'm not sure how he got 95%. But still, 88% is a big number. A
closer look revealed that more than half of the cost was shouldered by Kuwait (makes sense) and Saudi Arabia. I'm not sure I want Saudi Arabia considered one of our "allies", as Kerry's speech classified them. Japan paid a big chunk of change in 1991, much appreciated, and Korea paid a bit. Germany forked over a bit more than $5 million. Appreciated too, but I'm not sure what point Kerry is trying to make today. He criticizes the President for not getting our "allies" to help pay in 2004 like they did in 1991, but France isn't even on the list. And isn't that really who we always mean when we talk about "getting allies on our side"? And would we really be happier with the current war in Iraq if Saudi Arabia were helping to foot the bill? I'm not sure I would be.
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Another example of Liberals seeing only what they WANT to see, and not the whole picture. Now for the other side of the coin: since you're in a looking-things-up mood, did we make any HUGE loans or concessions to any countries right around the time they were "paying" for the cost of the Gulf War? (The US "persuaded" the World Bank to forgive Egypt's $14 billion debt and dropped our opposition to the Bank making huge loans to Iran, for starters.)
Posted by: CavalierX at September 16, 2004 06:20 PM (sA6XT)
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You poor, poor things, you're really confused aren't you?
The Bush II administration clearly vastly underestimated what this war would cost (it will be more than double the first war), but we had a real coalition the first time and they helped deferr the costs. This time we're assuming the entire cost for what Bush claims is making the world a safer place. Isn't that rather stupid? Sadly, yes.
Posted by: bushgirlsgonewild at September 16, 2004 07:44 PM (vzHiG)
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IT's a shame that we couldn't get some of our old friends to shoulder the monetary burden . But then again since they did the last time even our good friends in the UK woudln't allow us to take Baghdad or do anything about Saddam . As the world goes on and on about how this war is so horrible an even worse thing happens in Darfur and other places where they turn a blind eye. Amazing isnt it. But then again , if there's something to be done . The US must lead the way or no one goes and does much of anything.
Posted by: MorningSun at September 17, 2004 01:52 AM (EPBbn)
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Learn history, read, do something rather than display your inability to research to the entire world 'cos France sent troops to Gulf War I!
Sorry for being heavy but I feel like you must have watching CNN World.
Posted by: Tadhgin at September 29, 2004 03:46 AM (eoRrs)
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I can't find a permalink, so you'll have to scroll, but I enjoyed
reading this 17 August post called "America has failed".
And I know that this isn't really fair, because I know you could find some unflattering photos of me, but I loved the photos of the President.
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