February 20, 2005
February 19, 2005
WRONG
This wonderful article called
The Millionaire Next Door vs. the Politician in Washington hits on what I mentioned the other day.
The problem with college financial aid is that for two families with equal lifetime incomes, the one that consumes the most and saves the least gets the most financial aid.
This is the single greatest problem I noticed when I worked for the university and saw financial aid disbursement. The 25 year olds with three kids by three different fathers were the ones going to school for free. We're rewarding the wrong behavior.
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And that's not the end of it. That which is subsidized always rises in price. The skyrocketing cost of a college education is directly traceable to governmental subsidy of that cost through financial aid programs.
Don't think about Medicare. Don't!
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 19, 2005 07:12 AM (MzH7h)
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"Displaced homemaker" is the politically correct term.
Posted by: Bunker at February 19, 2005 11:29 AM (FP9A9)
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Kling (the author) frequently says "if you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less, tax it". So simple, it should be the first thing out of any Senator's mouth when they debate spending bills. And this article shows it's not just limited to government.
I should know: I applied for college in 1998, and out of something like 2500 scholarships, as a white male with middle-class parents who had saved money for my tuition, I was eligible for exactly 6. 6 out of 2500, the rest for minorities and the "poor" (those who hadn't saved enough). Sad.
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February 18, 2005
PHONE CALL
My husband called tonight; it was the first time we've talked on the phone since Christmas Eve. It was great to hear him, though the static and delay reminded us why we never use the phones. He said he was bored -- amazingly enough, it's the first time he's used that word since he got to Iraq. He seemed in very good spirits, and my favorite bit of the conversation was when he said that his soldiers keep asking him if he has any more news about their departure. He said he keeps replying with jokes like "well, we might have to hunt Easter eggs inside the tank, but we should be home by Mother's Day, so buy a gift." Glad to see they're making the best of a crap situation.
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BEGINNING OF THE END
I saw my first busload of soldiers arrive home from Iraq today. People were stopping their cars and waving. It was cute.
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SOCIALISM
Good to go's jerk comment here made me think of something else. We do "depend upon [the government] for everything." The military is socialist system. Health care is free, housing is free, most services are free. And that's the worst part about being with the Army. Health care is free, so there are long lines at the doctor and forget about making a dental or eye appointment. Housing is free, so if you turn down the house they offer you, they take you off the list for 90 days. And services are free, so when we moved here, our flight was delayed for six hours and they put us on a plane with no overhead compartments that didn't have enough fuel to make it across the Atlantic. The movers also forgot to ship our belongings until after we arrived here (and the Army also forgot to pay us for two and a half months).
But all of this stuff is free, so you can't complain. Often the people who provide these services don't have much job pride or customer-oriented goals either, because what are you gonna do, take your business elsewhere? I live a socialist lifestyle, and it ain't pretty.
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Sarah,
I grinned when I read this. It is true, we get what we pay for. Older military folks recognize that sometimes things don't go well in the military, especially after moving throughout the world so many times. My wife is an Air Force brat, and they frequently lived in what her Mom called a "D-U-M-P, Dump" for many years in several duty stations. She lived with me in 10 different locations in 21 yrs, and even cried when I brought her to the D-U-M-P we lived in while I served in our nation's capital.
But we forget that we get what we pay for, and in the case of soldiers moving around, the military doesn't pay much. The job goes to the lowest bidder on almost everything. We frequently joke that even the ammunition we use, and the weapons we wield, were provided by the lowest bidder. Lucky for us the military really, really cares whether they work or not.
The only consolation, sometimes, is that we pay an awful lot for a plane or a tank or a ship. And those things bring us to the fight, and bring us home to the love and affection you, our wives, provide us when the fight is over because they work so well. It is you, the wives, who have to live with the neglect and cheapness of the military life, because America will pay for the things we need to fight, but she won't pay well for the things we need to live.
You have my sympathy and my respect, but not my pity. You are too tough and honorable for that. And for what it is worth, when all this is over, it will have been worth it, whether you do it for 4 years or 40 years.
Bless you, dear.
Subsunk
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Its only communism when you get these things simply for being a citizen of the country. Your husband signed an employment contract with the government. That's capitalism! Whether or not you signed a fair contract, is a whole different ballgame!
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I think the salient point is that g2g's "jerk comment" (Sarah, you're a saint to be that generous in your description) suggested that they're getting a good deal/free ride, where the reality is that almost anybody out there could live a better life elsewhere -- military service is a *sacrifice*, not a joyride. I'm sure Canada has plenty of space for asshats like good to go.
Posted by: James at February 18, 2005 02:51 PM (QvU5o)
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The first thing my husband said on IM when I showed him that comment was "I provide a service to my government and I get a salary. Government workers are not the same thing as getting government entitlements." Sometimes his salary seems generous (when we think of the tax-free benefits) and sometimes it seems stingy (he makes $4/hr in Iraq), but it's a *salary*. It's not welfare.
Thanks for your eloquent comment, Subsunk. I appreciate your respect, and I don't need any pity. I love my life just the way it is.
Posted by: Sarah at February 19, 2005 02:06 AM (/35cK)
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"The military is soc1alist system."
I noticed that, too. In the Army, I said it once to a buddy who must have grown up in an old-school 'better dead than red' household and boy did he get pissed. But yeah, the military is about the closest thing we have in our society to the soc1alist worker's paradise. So, I can't understand why self-proclaimed soc1alists (who mostly live the lifestyles of privileged, pampered capitalists) hate the military so much.
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February 17, 2005
RESPONSIBILITY
I just noticed
this comment by PAC tonight and I wanted to address it. It's a very normal point of view for a European to have, the same point of view I've found in most of my European friends. It is, I believe, the biggest dividing factor between Americans and Europeans and the source of our value differences.
It's also related to Bill Whittle's social vs. individual responsibility.
When I was a senior in high school, I was trying to decide whether I should go to a public or private school. I really wanted to attend this small private school I had chosen, so my dad decided it was time for a lesson in economics. He knew I wanted to be a teacher, so he made me figure out how much of an average teacher salary would go towards paying off $50,000 in student loans. He asked me if it would be worth going to this school to pay perhaps half of my monthly income towards loans. I agreed that it would not and decided to go to the public school. Only once I had started school did my father say that if I had believed that it would have been worth $50,000 of my own money, he would've helped me go to the private school. But since it wasn't worth my own money, it must not have been that important to me.
That's an awesome lesson that my father taught me, one that I personally think applies to my American worldview. You spend your own money far more frugally than you do your father's, and certainly far more frugally than you do the government's. People are simply more responsible when they have more responsibility to take care of themselves. We saw that with today's link about sharing: you end up with more Hershey Kisses if you're in charge of your own.
The biggest difference between Americans and Europeans is responsibility. In the US you're individually responsible for far more (and not nearly enough, in my opinion) than you are in Europe. I was responsible for paying for my own college, so I chose wisely and finished quickly. In many European countries, you can take as long as you want to get your degree; it's someone else's Hershey Kisses. I wish we were in charge of our own Social Security in the US, because I could do a much better job of managing it than the government can, to where I could pay for both medicine and travel. Me, myself, paying for it, not the government.
When my husband and I met with a financial advisor, he asked us how much money we wanted to set aside for our children's college funds. We slowly looked at each other, looked back at the advisor, and sheepishly asked if "nothing" was an acceptable answer. We both paid for our own college educations -- he through ROTC, I through academic scholarships -- and we expect our children to do the same. I don't plan to pay for my own child's college; there's no way I would want to pay taxes to make it free for everyone. I don't even like thinking about the tax dollars that fund the Pell grant.
PAC's opinion is completely understandable, given his background, but completely incomprehensible given mine. I can respect that he feels that way, but I certainly don't want my government emulating Europe in that manner.
MORE TO GROK:
Response to good to go above.
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I saved money for my kids' college from the time they were born. Ended up with more than enough for a public college, and enough that most private colleges were within reach, if wanted badly enough. Both initially wanted private (or expensive, out-of-state public) - but I forced them to make a financial value judgement. By making the money 'theirs' I hoped to make them spend it as if it was 'theirs' One chose private, but with big scholarship, and maintained the grades to keep the scholarship and graduated on time - so there was money left over for the first year of law school. The other (your 'double') is in in-state public, so there will be money left over for other opportunities. One such is a summer school program in Innsbruck this year - I'll tell her if she gets in trouble she should pretend she is you.
Posted by: Glenmore at February 17, 2005 10:50 PM (+IHgL)
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The funny thing Sara is that you claim the mantle of personal responsibilty while living off taxpayer money. Both you and your husband will never have earned an honest nickel until you go out into the real world and get a job and pay the taxes that supports teachers and soldiers.
You are not really in a position to criticize others for asking for health insurance from their government when you depend upon it for everything.
Posted by: good to go at February 18, 2005 03:03 AM (fLlQ8)
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Soldiers may depend on the government for 'everything', but the government (and we) likewise depend on the soldiers for everything. It is a contract willingly entered by both parties. I believe, given the costs paid these days by our soldiers, that we the people are getting quite a bargain in this contract.
Posted by: Glenmore at February 18, 2005 08:30 AM (loaB2)
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Excuse me? My husband and I most certainly do pay taxes (except during deployment), so you can hardly say we don't contribute. And anyone else who wants to join the military is more than able to make the same money and benefits my husband and I do.
How dare you say we've never earned an honest nickel? Screw you.
Posted by: Sarah at February 18, 2005 08:54 AM (qdVAy)
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So,
good to go doesn't know what he's talking about. A soldier and his family do pay taxes. As an officer, the exact same percentage of my pay went to the IRS as my pay does now in civilian life. I have lived on both sides of the military/civilian divide. And the difference is ----- in the military you wear a cheaper suit, you work longer for less pay than the civilian, and you get little thanks until the shooting starts.
The upside is that the military folks aren't afraid to make a decision which could cost them their job. In my commercial life, my bosses frequently abdicate responsibility for decisions to lower levels and then fire those people when their judgment proves to be wrong.
Lots more freedom and time as a civilian. If they paid me time and a half for the hours I was at work in the Navy, they would be paying me until I was 90. The service my shipmates and fellow soldiers provide has few parallels anywhere in the world. We prevent butchers from cutting our people's heads off with impunity. Find that service in the civilian world and see how much it costs you. Then tell me who earns the more honest nickel.
As for health insurance, those who want to live forever on the cheapest health premiums will get the life they deserve, --- a long life of miserable existence because everything they earned is going towards their life support. I have helped my mother take care of several really old and senile relatives. It is more expensive than living and working a job till you die. My advice to "good to go" is to live well, die young and leave a good looking corpse.
Subsunk
Posted by: Subsunk at February 18, 2005 02:24 PM (YMrHN)
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GRrrrrr.... Good to go is really off the mark. How long have you lived under the gun so to speak? How many jobs do you hold? How ridiculous. I wonder if he/she would say that in person. Judging from some of the stuff you have had to hear in person, they probably would. But would they do it in a roomful of your friends? and defenders? I think not. Good to go indeed. Good to stay away please.
Posted by: Ruth H at February 18, 2005 08:15 PM (h08Dy)
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good to go is an ass-wipe. ive had the not so pleasent opportunaty to meet several here in my home state. ive heard people actually say that they "hope the soldiers in iraq get what they deserve". shit like that revolts me. i hear france is accepting applications for village idiots. good to go seems to have it in the bag.
Posted by: liz at February 18, 2005 08:58 PM (iq+aH)
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Yes Sarah, I understand that social democracy vs individual selfishness (or, to be more kind, "individual responsibility") is a big divide between Europeans and Americans (or at least the 51% of Americans who vote GOP). And I understand that you are more responsible with your own money than other people's money. But it's sad that in a country which says is superior to Europe, people have to risk their lifes (i.e., enroll at ROTC) just to pay for their education. It is sad that hard labor workers (McDonalds, construction, etc) have to die if they get sick. Do they die or live in poverty and abject conditions forever because they are not responsible or because they are not middle class and don't have a loving father explaining them the economics of university tuition? Do you really believe the US system is about personal responsibility for the poor? It seems to me more about screwing those who born poor and never (or rarely) giving then any opportunity to raise up. I am not saying give them all "the Hershey's Kisses" in the world... but at least give them some so that they can survive and move on to better things. If they are preocupied with surviving they will never have time do discuss economics, meet with financial advisors, contribute to a better America... it's okay to disagree with Europeans like me just don't forget that in our own country 49% agree with European social democracy.
Posted by: PAC at February 19, 2005 06:03 PM (2HGdB)
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PAC,
I'm 42, a former Navy Nuke Submarine Officer educated through ROTC, been civilian for 13 years, have a daughter soon to be in college. My wife worked at McDonalds as a kid, I didn't work for anyplace quite so classy. Is it hard work - NO! Anyone from 15-90 can work at McDonalds, sorry. In a free market economy we reward people based on the level of skill the job requires. McDonalds – 1 day of training.
ROTC gave me the chance to get the college education from the start that my father got through years of night school. ROTC is far from a tragedy, unless you believe the military useless. The military is underpaid for what it does, that is why it is called the “Service”
Wish I could refer you to the exact date, but in a NEWSWEEK article about 6 years ago a woman wrote in to say her Doctoral Thesis was going to be on how Welfare helps lift people out of poverty and should be expanded. It helped her after her husband left. Instead, what she found is that people with "Middle class" values who wound up on welfare worked hard to get off as quick as possible, but there was a definite core, the majority in fact, that don't want more than what welfare provides and are content to sit and collect. This bears out the experience of a couple of family members who worked in offices handing out government money.
Before my daughter started high school they got all the parents together and talked about how one of the things they wanted to teach the students was good decision making. My father taught me that what I made of my life was my decision. However, my brother-in-law has passed his donÂ’t graduate high-school do drugs mentality to his son. He also has no savings, cheats on his disabled wife who he leaves alone, etc. Frankly, I donÂ’t like my taxes taking care of dirt bags who DECIDED to be dirt bags. I heard a psychiatrist once say that you canÂ’t always change how you feel, but you can CHOOSE how you act.
People are sinners, not saints. If we were saints, sharing would work. WeÂ’re not, so itÂ’s personal responsibility. Does is suck, yes it does sometimes. ThatÂ’s life, deal with it.
PS, if I havenÂ’t convinced you and we should share more, please send your share of my daughterÂ’s college tuition. IÂ’ll place it in her college account.
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I started this blog as a way to try to understand the world we live in. Some days I do just fine. Other days I can't believe the monsters who breathe the same air as I do.
It started last night with this opinion column on the ROTC ban at Columbia:
Joining the military is flushing your education down the toilet. Why would people come here if they were just going to enter the military upon graduation in the first place? It’s like, “Well, I just spent four years learning about mankind’s accomplishments, but all I really want to do is kill people.” I’m not really sure how the Core curriculum is going to come in handy when you’ve been ordered to stack a group of naked Iraqi prisoners in a human pyramid.
I, and I suspect most students on this campus, embrace the “civil-military” gap that ROTC bemoans. The fact is, I cannot comprehend why anyone would want to be in the military at this juncture in American history. Meanwhile, our campus is one of the few remaining places where as students, we can be free from the ever-increasing “let’s roll” mentality that is becoming so dominant in this nation.
Wow. I am shocked someone would say something so nasty. But we're talkin' college kids here, so I'm not that surprised. What did in fact surprise me -- shock the bejesus out of me, to be frank -- was this email Greyhawk got, shocking because it's from a Department of Defense high school teacher:
I hope that your children's teachers offer you children the type of education where they see what a close-minded, blood-thirsty individual you are. You are the type of person who will fight for freedom, all right, as long as it is for the freedom of white, American males. Hitler loved people like you. Of course, like you, I am strictly judging you by your comments, not by actually knowing anything about you or your motivations. And, of course, like you, I am taking everything you say out of context without knowing anything about you. The difference is is that I am actually literate. In fact, aside from judging you to be a bigot, a sexist, and someone who probably didn't do very well in school at all, I would further judge you to be someone who has a hard time passing a pt test. Why don't you "ping the wife" about this one? She is probably happiest when you are not pinging her at all.
A teacher employed by the US Army wrote that letter to Greyhawk. I will never, never grok this world we live in.
MORE:
Neal Boortz
Paulie
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Some people feel so wise when they say, once the last soldier drops his gun, or if countries didn't have militaries, there would be no wars. It's like saying we could get rid of our crime problems, if there were no police. It's such reverse thinking, but it makes sense in their minds. I am also disgusted with many things that happened in Iraq at the hands of US soldiers, but to judge the whole military is outrageous. For a country who prides individuality, it's irrational to make such sweeping statements. But don't despair, Sarah, these aren't new sentiments. You as an Ayn Rand fan know that 'looters' in some form have been around forever.
Posted by: calivalleygirl at February 17, 2005 06:50 AM (kcSB8)
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Well, the writer in question appears to come from an environment where veterans or those who know veterans firsthand are few and far between.
Unfortunately that's the case at my alma mater too. I can't think of a single veteran on the faculty or staff. There may or may not be some in the student body. When I was there, there was a four year Army man and a currently serving Marine reservist. That's two out of over 1300. Not a very good ratio.
Check out Neal Boortz today for something similar.
http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
Posted by: James Sloan at February 17, 2005 11:53 AM (69DlR)
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My son and your husband are proud to have served their country and defended the people that they love and care for. It's just too bad that people like the one who wrote the letter to grayhawk and the students who are against the ROTC being on campus are going to benifit from their service.
It is amazing to me how many people really don't understand that it is the US Armed Forces that keep us living in the land of the free and the home of the Brave.. Thank God for the Men & Women who fight for Freedom & Liberty for all who are oppressed. May God Bless them..
Posted by: 1Ad Proud ArmyMom at February 17, 2005 12:29 PM (lZ8lX)
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hey ms.grok clowns like that teacher are a minorty in this country.as a veteran of the first persian gluf war (I was a sailor)and a member of a liberal blue state(queens,new york city)even people against the current OIF strongly back the men and women serving bravely in uniform every day.trust me. have fun when the hasband gets home.all the best tommy
Posted by: anon at February 17, 2005 01:40 PM (NMK3S)
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My old high school got rid of it's JROTC program, though for vastly different reasons. It was founded by a princess and for Hawaiians (and part hawaiians) only and someone sued, so they gave it up since it was a federal program.
The loss was just as great and Leadership Development is no longer taught there outside of sports, which is not nearly as good at teaching responsibility and real leadership. A sad day for a school that put out so many who served (and still serve) their country.
Kalroy
Posted by: Kalroy at February 17, 2005 05:45 PM (i9w6W)
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If you're going to start posting "tissue warnings" for moving/sad stories, you need "puke-bucket warnings" for shit like this that makes me want to vomit:
By accepting ROTC on campus, Columbia would be encouraging some of its students not to be great thinkers but to be warriors whose purpose is to kill. Supporters of the ROTC will attempt to make distinctions like, “you can train to be a doctor in the military,” or whatever, but the point is, anyone in uniform is just as guilty of enforcing the will of the United States via the use of force as the soldier who actually pulls the trigger.
...because if we could just get rid of that pesky US military, the whole world would be a happy, friendly place full of pretty flowers and cuddly puppies and smiling faces and tie-die ponchos. News flash: when the pot wears off, the world stops looking so rosy, hippy.
This is such a typical liberal position. They worry that having ROTC on campus will draw in people too stupid to think for themselves (yet, apparently, smart enough to get into Columbia). So, rather than let them have free will, the stupid must be protected from themselves. It is outside the realm of possibility (in the liberal mind) that somebody would actually think things through and come to the decision to join the military. Hateful God-damned hippies.
I think we all know the *real* reason they can't have a ROTC program is that the cadets would use the School of Journalism for demo practice. "Oops, training accident, no more Dan Rathers." Heheheh... we can dream, right?
Posted by: James at February 17, 2005 08:02 PM (QvU5o)
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Hi all (and a special Hi to Sarah),
I'm a spokesman for Advocates for Columbia ROTC.
If you have questions about our efforts to restore ROTC at Columbia, feel free to drop me a line at elc2003@columbia.edu.
Eric
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Heh, this is why
my hair is down to my waist!
When Liberals Are Honest About The War In Iraq
I like
Lileks today too.
Selfishness is bad, right?
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What drives the left absolutely mad is that they still have to mouth the "we support the troops but not the war" line. They dont support the troops. Truth be told, they would love to return to the days of yelling "Baby Killer" at returning soldiers. The Anheiser Busch ad from the Super Bowl with the soldiers in DCU's at the airport must have made them all sick to there stomachs. Thankfully most of us see through the Lefty BS.
Posted by: CPTHAM at February 17, 2005 03:02 PM (NMK3S)
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I'll let
Julian Sanchez respond to that 'When the left is honest' post:
No, seriously, was anyone else awake when the case for this war was being made back in 2002? Does anyone have the impression that a case consisting of the argument that it was worth going to war so Iraqis could have a nice democracy and purple fingers would've been greeted with anything but incredulous laughter? The debate over the wisdom of this war was over months ago. The neocons lost, badly. That wouldn't change if Iraq became a Middle Eastern Switzerland tomorrow. It wasn't a good enough reason to go to war when it was a vague possibility, it's not good enough now that it's a vague possibility we've moved a few steps toward, and it won't be good enough if it becomes a reality.
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February 16, 2005
HEH
Perspective: I may be feeling blue, but at least I'm not the soldiers who are face down in 6 inches of snow at the firing range today.
Realization: And it's hard to stay blue when you've got Taco Bell in your tummy and "MMMBop" is on the radio.
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BUT YOU DID NOT COME
In honor of
Annika's poetry Wednesday, I offer a selection from
This Is My Beloved, my favorite book of poetry of all time. It was my grandmother's book, and I used to read it sneakily in her house and titter at some of the more intimate passages. When my grandmother moved into a nursing home and whittled her belongings down to one cabinet, I got the book. Now that I am older, I no longer titter. I could read this book a hundred times -- I have -- and still find new delights. Today's passage reflects my mood...
                I waited years today . . . one year for every hour,
all day -- though I knew you could not come till night
I waited . . . and nothing else in this God's hell meant anything.
I had everything you love -- shellfish and saltsticks . . . watercress,
black olives. Wine (for the watch I pawned), real cream
for our coffee. Smoked cheese, currants in port, preserved wild cherries.
I bought purple asters from a pushcart florist and placed them where
they would be between us --
imagining your lovely face among them . . .
But you did not come . . . you did not come.
You did not come. And I left the table lit and your glass filled --
and my glass empty . . . and I went into the night, looking for you.
The glittering pile, Manhattan, swarmed like an uncovered dung heap.
Along the waterfront
manlike shapes all shoulders and collar walked stiffly like shadow figures.
Later, the half-moon rose.
                                        Everywhere the windows falling dark.
By St. Mark's church, under the iron fence, a girl was crying. And the old
steeple was mouldy with moonlight, and I was tired . . . and very lonely.
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START OVER
When I was chatting with my husband last night, all I could think about was him. He's the one who's devastated that he's not coming home when he thought he would, and he's the one who's ten days longer from toilets, showers, kisses, and rangoons. I honestly was completely focused on his needs...until I was getting ready for bed and realized that all of my friends except one will be snuggling with their husbands this weekend. And I will have three weeks where I have no one to hang out with, no one to be sad with, and no one who still feels like there's a war on. Except for my one friend whose husband will stay as long as mine, and thank heavens I have her. She reminded me last night of what Tim called
THE POWER, and she made me laugh that Bunker had told me not to count down on the same day that we realized the count would be different.
Oh, and Red 6 will be here. It sounded like fun to hang out with Red 6 for a week before my own husband got home, but now that I know there will be three weeks between their arrivals, it doesn't seem that fun anymore. On Monday I felt happy for wives whose husbands come home soon. I don't feel so happy for them today, but I am going to try to work on that. Even though mine will be the only soldier-less house on the block, I still will be waiting for the best soldier in the Army to come home. (Best white soldier, huh Kel?)
So I crawled into bed last night with a bowl of ice cream and finished State of Fear. It was a great book. And today is a new day, and my husband comes home in the middle of March. The old arrival date goes down the memory hole and we start fresh. If Tim could do it, so can I.
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Sarah - when I read yesterday that he is being delayed, I felt sad for both of you. You may be alone physically - but your readers are here with you all the time. Just simply post a message or send us an email and we'll be glad to help you pass the time as best we can. Just think - after 3 weeks of other husband's being home (and old routines setting in) - you'll be getting a great gift back to enjoy all by yourself. Say hi to Red 6 for us and keep your chin up. He's coming HOME and that's the most important thing.
Posted by: Kathleen A at February 16, 2005 07:52 AM (vnAYT)
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I just finished State Of Fear also. I was surprised at how much of the "current wisdom" of global warming that I have come to accept. So now I'm doing
more research to update my thinking.
I'm sorry to read that you have longer to wait for your husband. Be strong, this too shall pass.
P.
Posted by: Pamela at February 16, 2005 04:06 PM (PlwSw)
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Sarah, you grok well. go back to being a Stranger in a Strange Land. "waiting is not yet fullness.." hang in there, you'll make it. you're doing fine. remember that he's the best trained soldier, surrounded by the finest soldiers and equipment the world has ever seen. Mike
Posted by: MajMike at February 16, 2005 06:23 PM (5ap+X)
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Sarah, I didn't know until I read your blog that Russ's return is not when expected. I am very disappointed for both of you. I was so looking forward to the beginning of March and knowing that he was back home in your arms. I know you are not suppose to wish your life away but in this case, I can hardly wait for the middle of March now. Jane
Posted by: Jane at February 16, 2005 11:49 PM (CL9G9)
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just me being nosy; i was wondering if your red 6 friend was the same red 6 over at ammor geddon? i couldnt help but notice the common name.
Posted by: liz at February 17, 2005 10:25 PM (HwHXC)
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Yep, *my* Red 6 is the world's Red 6. He's my husband's best friend in the unit.
Posted by: Sarah at February 18, 2005 01:18 AM (qdVAy)
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wow, thats great! he has alot of great entries. once i found his blog and started reading, i did a post about him in my blog calling him the new colby buzzel. i hope he decides to keep blogging after his return his entries really give you the feeling of being there standing next to him as the story(er..scenario) unfolds.
my hubbys b/f is in afganistan (where it was snowing last week! enough to make snowballs and slushies!) and he has a blog but his take is pretty much "uh yeah. chow was good today and uh..i got to clean the sand out of my weapon again" but i cant hardly blame him for that, there isnt a whole lot (TG!) going on over where he's at. he's taken some good pics though
thanks for letting me be nosy, i hope time flies by so you can be with your hubby soon!!
~liz
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February 15, 2005
I DEMAND A RECOUNT
Bunker's right, I shouldn't start counting down: my husband just found out he has to stay 10 days longer than originally planned. Naturally everyone else is still on schedule to return sometime in the next seven days; he'll be back in mid-March.
Sigh.
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Sarah, I know those 10 extra days must feel like a lifetime for you. Hang in there, and look at it as an extra few days for you to get yourself ready for the big reunion. You're a trooper! I hope the time passes quickly for you.
Posted by: Lucy at February 15, 2005 03:07 PM (7a90Q)
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Sarah,
Sorry you have to wait so much longer. Try to take it easy and remember to exhale every two to three minutes!! heh
Posted by: Ruth H at February 15, 2005 05:02 PM (CfHqO)
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SARAH!!! I am SO sorry! I don't even know what to say...But if you want to borrow mine for a couple of days, let me know. :-)
Posted by: Erin at February 15, 2005 05:46 PM (5/kgK)
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In something like this, I hate being right.
Posted by: Mike at February 15, 2005 07:27 PM (FP9A9)
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DONE
Hooah!
And I'll have to sew the CCB on for my husband. He always tells me he's going to nominate me for the CWB (the Combat Wifeing Badge).
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That's a good thing. The CIB was created by General Marshall because the infantryman of WWII lived a life nobody else shared, and he wanted something to honor them, and them alone. They received far too few awards and decorations in comparison to other groups.
Warfare has changed, and something along these lines was definitely needed without giving the CIB to everyone.
Posted by: Mike at February 15, 2005 07:17 AM (cyYKH)
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Sarah - I think the wives and families receive too little recognition for your sacrifices! I'd award you a CWB, too :-)
I'm glad for your hubby and all of the others who deserve this recognition!
Posted by: Barb at February 15, 2005 02:07 PM (q9AXC)
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As a CIB winner - Korea - I welcome our comrades in action.
Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at February 16, 2005 01:49 AM (7XPVo)
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NOT MURDER
If the story actually happened the way
LT Pantano says it did, then I'm about sick and tired of our soldiers and marines getting charged with murder in Iraq. If I may quote
State of Fear...
If someone tried to kill you, you did not have the option of averting your eyes or changing the subject. You were forced to deal with that person's behavior. The experience was, in the end, a loss of certain illusions.
The world was not how you wanted it to be.
The world was how it was.
There were bad people in the world. They had to be stopped.
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I doubt that the story is quite as the LT tells it. What an unbelievable PR blitz he has going right now, between his attorney and his mom's website. The Marine Corps, quite properly, are not releasing the facts that caused them to investigate the incident.
All of the news stories have left out the relevant info in the last paragraph of one story:
"The investigators could recommend Pantano face court-martial, receive administrative discipline
or that the charges be dropped altogether, the Marines said."
Charges are put on a charge sheet to formally inform the accused what he's charged with - then there is an Article 32 hearing, the equivalent of a Grand Jury hearing. Just because charges have been typed, that does not mean that the LT will face the charges in court and risk conviction. An officer is going to investigate the facts surrounding the case, the LT will be there to present his side along with his attorney, and the officer will recommend to the Commanding General that a court-martial should be impanelled to hear the case (there is probable cause evidence, and a panel or judge needs to determiine if the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt) or the case should be dismissed without further action - there isn't even probable cause to go forward.
I, for one, am very proud to be part of a military organization that doesn't take deaths of an enemy as lightly as other nations. Under the reasoning that we're at war, LT Calley might also have been spared any questions as to his My Lai massacre.
The fact that the Marines think they need to investigate indicates pretty clearly that there is something else to this story that has been hidden so far. And we can't expect the LT to tell us what that might be.
But this isn't just a knee jerk reaction - otherwise there would be hundreds of Marines charged with murder. Clearly, this is different for some reason. And I will bet you that there's more there than just one disgruntled enlisted man.
Take it from me - either he had been warned before of the proper way to do things or they suspect him of setting up the Iraqis just so he could kill them with impunity. Only an investigation will tell what really happened. You can't ignore such a serious complaint just because you want to believe the officer.
Now, if the World Court wanted to try our Marines, I'd be right there with you! But the fact that the military thinks this is serious indicates that something ugly is under this rock.
Posted by: Oda Mae at February 15, 2005 09:54 AM (FmIVz)
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You seem to have a lot more faith in the military justice system than I think is warranted. I spent 20 years in and my revelation to you is that they're human too. The service isn't fair. It can't be, it's just a system, designed to help the most of us get along with the rest of us. People, can be fair, and often are in the service. That's to make up for the system. I think I'd hold off on the doubts in a man over a system just a mite longer.
Tom
Posted by: Tom at February 16, 2005 12:12 AM (V5Jlg)
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I spent 6 years in, all as a JAG attorney working prosecution or defense. I have seen the way sausage is made from the inside. I can categorically state that I NEVER had a client charged where I was shocked with the charge. Some did not go further than the Article 32, but there was enough evidence to require an investigation and, in most cases, an explanation that satisfied the fact finder. There is something here - we just don't know what it is yet.
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GRRR
I think
this is disgusting. In a comparative religion class, no one should be forced to bless Muhammad. Must they also refer to Jesus as "Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior"? I find this outrageous. Comparing religions should be a factual analysis of traditions and customs; students shouldn't have to participate in those customs in the class.
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See this from the teacher concerned:
http://www.holford.org.uk/mt/archives/000650.html
JW
Posted by: janet ward at February 15, 2005 10:58 AM (wNnst)
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Must they also refer to Jesus as "Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior"?
You
do know what "Christ" means, don't you? Or perhaps not.
Impressive post.
pfft.
Posted by: brad at February 15, 2005 04:50 PM (AoyVe)
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LESSON
When I lived in France, I developed an enormous crush on this boy at my school. I got all fluttery when he was around, I always tried to find a way to work him into conversations with my friends, and my eyes were constantly on him whenever he was in the hall. For four months, I turned into a mess of butterflies whenever he was around. And then one day he was gone.
I never even spoke to him.
I know nothing about this boy. I don't even know if he was French or an exchange student like me. I don't know what classes he was taking or where he lived or what his name was or anything. And by the time I had worked up the courage to even think about talking to him, he was gone. I have no idea what happened to him, but I never saw him again for the remaining six months of my time in France.
When I realized that my friendship with my husband was turning into something more than friendship, I knew I didn't want to make the same mistake twice. So I flat out told him one night, told him that I really liked him and that I was starting to think about him all the time, and asked him how he felt. He was quite taken aback, and that's when he gave his famous "well, I like you, but I'm not going to marry you or anything" line. He wasn't quite sure what to think, but he slept on it (for two weeks!) and finally told me that he wanted to be with me too.
That was five years ago today.
I still wonder about that boy in France. Maybe he was irritating, boring, or rude. Maybe he could've turned out to be a really special guy. I'll never know, but I'm grateful for the lesson he taught me. I wouldn't be with my husband today if I hadn't told him how I felt. I learned that taking a risk can be a beautiful thing.
I'll never forget that giddy moment five years ago, sitting on the floor in my husband's dorm room and deciding that we were going to give us a shot.
Greatest moment of my life.
I miss you, husband.
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Once again, your writing makes me stop.....and think....and re-evaluate.
Basically - thanks to posts like this, you help me work towards being a better person.
Thanks!
Posted by: Tammi at February 16, 2005 11:41 AM (HaRi0)
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And I think it would be really great if you could explain to Tammi that guys are really, really, *really* bad at hints.
I don't think she really realizes that.
really.
Posted by: _Jon at February 17, 2005 02:26 AM (HaRi0)
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February 14, 2005
A SHOW OF MY LOVE
Dear Husband,
A song for you on this special day...
I was working in the lab late one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For my monster from his slab began to rise
And suddenly to my surprise
He did the mash
He did the monster mash
The monster mash
It was a graveyard smash
He did the mash
It caught on in a flash
He did the mash
He did the monster mash
I choo-choo-choose you.
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Sarah,
Since you're a sucker for romance, let me share this story in the news today. And it's Army related, no less.
http://www.theroosevelthotel.com/60th/
The celebrated couple are my father and mother-in-law.
Glenmore - father of your 'double'.
Posted by: Glenmore at February 14, 2005 08:48 PM (WjHSv)
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MAD
So 20/20 runs the story of Abu Ghraib, and that photo of the hooded fellow shows up on every news site and I-told-you-so blog. It's on the cover of newspapers and magazines, so everyone knows the Official Symbol of Abu Ghraib Torture.
Friday night, 20/20 ran a story about the UN workers who are raping children in the Congo. They have photos of a French man having sex with hundreds of girls. And what is on the main page of the 20/20 website?
Corey f-ing Feldman.
Oh sure, after you click around, you get some fuzzy photos of freaking nothing at all. I'm not saying we should see this monster with a little girl, but surely there's something a little more damning than that purple wallpaper. Surely there's a Defining Photo that should go on the front page of newspapers and magazines.
Heaven forbid that an investigation of 50 aid workers involving hundreds of raped children -- while Kofi himself said that sexual abuse has "haunted peacekeeping operations for decades" -- should be bigger news than Abu Ghraib.
I guess Corey Feldman's more important.
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My advice, young lady, is to do what I did: stop watching televsion "news". Unless it's on Instapundit, I don't know about it.
Posted by: Sean at February 14, 2005 08:54 AM (37FD7)
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While you may be into child porn and would enjoy seeing a picture of a grownup having sex with a minor it is not something most of us care to look at. Besides it is against the law to posses or provide pictures of naked children.
Posted by: good to go at February 14, 2005 10:44 AM (fLlQ8)
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good to go should really get going.
Apparently by his/her logic we should never expose bad acts, because most people do not enjoy seeing bad things - never mind that people cannot act against bad things if they don't know about them. When someone gets killed or hurt, good to go probably thinks that we should just cover it up.
Anyone who thinks Sarah enjoys child porn from this post needs serious psychiatric evaluation. Perhaps good to go is just projecting his/her sick desires.
Posted by: chris at February 14, 2005 01:07 PM (nyxv/)
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good to go needs to get gone. I understand completely what you're saying. We Americans are always to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world, and yet here is something deeply distrubing that was done by a FRENCH UN peecekeeper and there are pictures of it.
No we don't like looking at pictures of grown men having sex with children, but I didn't like seeing all the pictures of the Abu Ghraib prisoners either. Those soldiers that did that will pay for what they did. And I don't for a minute believe that the only ones raped by the FRENCH UN peacekeeper were children...
I'm with ya Sarah.........
Posted by: Proud 1AD Army Mom at February 14, 2005 06:09 PM (lZ8lX)
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You should really try to be more careful when you read, and subsequently write. As far as I can tell, it is simply not true that, as you said, "Kofi himself said that sexual abuse has 'haunted peacekeeping operations for decades'...." You are quoting the article, not Kofi Anan. What he actually said (according to the original article in the LA Times) is: "We cannot tolerate even one instance of a United Nations peacekeeper victimizing the most vulnerable among us," Annan's letter said, adding that the sexual abuse did "great harm" to the tradition and honor of U.N. peacekeeping and the reputations of the countries that supply troops. "Most important, however, such behavior violates the fundamental 'duty of care' that United Nations peacekeepers owe to the very peoples they are sent to protect and serve."
Posted by: Cash Flagg at February 15, 2005 01:45 PM (D+Z0Z)
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Whether the quote was correct or not, the U.N. has known for decades about this problem, according to my friends who worked for the U.N. on African missions. The U.N. has always looked the other way. With photographic proof, now, Thank goodness, they can't. Or at least we hope not.
Posted by: Oda Mae at February 16, 2005 02:04 AM (cG4V+)
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What peace keepers their papist i tell you the UN has commited more atrocities around the world then you could ever imagine just contact the JOHN BIRTCH SOCIETY and find out about the UN its not for world peace or world understaning its out to control our lives
Posted by: Killdeer at February 26, 2005 11:16 AM (mKzhU)
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