July 20, 2008
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
There's just too much to say about this article, and most of what I want to say will make me sound mean. I'll limit myself to a few points:
As wars lengthen, toll on military families mounts
If the burden sounds heavier than what families bore in the longest wars of the 20th century — World War II and Vietnam — that's because it is, at least in some ways. What makes today's wars distinctive is the deployment pattern — two, three, sometimes four overseas stints of 12 or 15 months. In the past, that kind of schedule was virtually unheard of.
Honestly, I'd rather my husband do all the time he's done in Iraq than do one tour in either WWII or Vietnam. I can't help but think of Easy Company from Band of Brothers. They were only deployed for a year, but that year included D-Day, Market Garden, and Bastogne. No way. I'll take two years in Iraq over that one year in Europe anyday.
"Infidelity is huge on both sides — a wife is lonely, she looks for attention and finds it easier to cheat," she said. "It does make even the most sound marriages second-guess."
Um, no it doesn't. Speak for yourself, honey.
"Deployments don't help in strengthening a marriage, but they do not have to kill marriages," [Col. Ronald Crews, one of several chaplains called from the reserves to help with family counseling] said. "That's a choice a couple has to make."
Again, speak for yourself, Chaplain. I know a few wives who've said that deployment strengthened their relationship; CVG even called deployment "couples therapy." I really disagree that separation can't strengthen you.
When my husband left, I posted "A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning" on my site. To me, that is the perfect deployment poem. My husband is the roaming foot of the compass, and I the fixed foot that hearkens after him. Our love is the "gold to aery thinness beat" and we don't need "eyes, lips, and hands" to remind us that we're still in love. And our relationship is just as strong, even though deployment "doth remove those things which elemented it."
I don't need my husband in my house to know that I love him. I also don't need him here to know that I oughtn't cheat on him, or to strengthen the bond that exists between us.
But then again, we don't have "dull sublunary lovers' love."
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Question: Do you think you are the rule or the exception?
Posted by: Non-Essential Equipment at July 20, 2008 10:09 AM (mDLjD)
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NEE: I don't really know. Since there have been many articles like this one over the past seven years, I assume I am an exception. But we are out there, families that cope and cope fine. There just aren't any articles about us.
Posted by: Sarah at July 20, 2008 10:31 AM (TWet1)
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I guess this article speaks to me because I see so much of it firsthand as an FRG leader. Sure, a good number of the marriages that fall apart should have never happened in the first place but I think the distance and the uncertainty take a big toll on a lot of relationships.
One marriage that just broke up was done from the soldier's end. Facing a third deployment, he said he couldn't be the kind of father that his kids deserved. He divorced his wife, who was coping, in hopes that she'll find someone who will be around.
Next question: why do you think your marriage does work despite the distance? If you can articulate it, it would make a great article (and I'm sure the Army would want to use the material for some kind of marriage retreat). =)
Posted by: Non-Essential Equipment at July 20, 2008 10:41 AM (mDLjD)
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NEE: My husband has a friend in the Air Force who has said that he'll never marry as long as he's active duty because he doesn't want to do that to a wife. I told him that some wives can handle it, but for him, it doesn't feel right. So I can understand, sadly, that divorce you mentioned.
As for your question...I don't know that I can explain it, but I will think about it and see if I can figure it out.
Posted by: Sarah at July 20, 2008 11:22 AM (TWet1)
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I wish there was more of a balance in the press. When all some people read is how bad it is for some couples, they assume it *is* the rule.
I was joking with someone recently that the only way I'd ever be able to get a mortgage now is if I married a man with the GI bill. They responded by telling me how messed up they are when they come home from the war. The way it was phrased, the person seemed to think they're all coming home with chronic PTSD.
I wonder if this is how the anti-war types will need to play their hand now: the personal cost to our military and their families is so high that even if we are winning, we should cut and run.
Posted by: Jacki at July 20, 2008 11:48 AM (zgpLt)
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My husband and I met 31 years ago in Navy Officer Candidate School. We got married 8 months later, had a 10 day honeymoon which ended with my start of a 1 year tour in Adak Alaska while he went to various schools and a shipyard overhaul for his first duty on board a ship. The decision we made almost 31 years ago was to be together part time or not at all. I was willing to make the part time commitment(Navy has always had deployments of 7 months and unaccompanied tours of 12-18 months)if and only if he was too. I needed him in my life, and fortunately, he felt the same. I wrote daily from Adak and we spent hundreds per month on phone calls (at $.40 to $.60 per minute in 1978 dollars). I watched his first tour on board a ship where he was expected to make do with a few hours a week of sleep, then on his second, when he was assigned to a carrier. Women as I came in did not go on ships. That changed shortly after our first of 3 kids were born. We felt one deployer was enough when kids were involved. Later, my husband got out and went into the reserves after that 3rd child arrived. I stayed active until I retired as our children hit 1st, 7th and 10th grades and became a stay at home mom. My husband, a teacher, activated for 2-6 months per year in Hawaii, away from our California home until he too retired ten years later. He only missed one year when he had a tumor removed. We made a commitment to each other, and both of us had a first hand knowledge of what the military demands of it's people. I did not come from a military family, so I needed that direct experience. Our commitment included a faithfulness to each other and the expectation that we would work through rough times to "grow old together." Did we, including our children, face some hardships due to the moves and other inconveniences of military life? Yes. But oh did we have opportunities. The elder two are now service members, each with more than 6 years in. One is a dad of a remarkable (of course) 2 year old boy. The other will wait until she finds the right person to spend her life with. Would I live the same life, making the same choice if I knew what the future held? In a heartbeat.
Posted by: HChambers at July 20, 2008 03:19 PM (++roz)
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Why some families can cope and others can't is the question of the century, isn't it?
I mean, it's obvious why some couples didn't last - and there's fault scenarios on both sides of the fence. It's fairly obvious that they would not have lasted as a civilian couple, either.
And the military divorce rate has actually dropped since the war started.
But there are those whose divorce has completely taken me by surprise, too.
The military divorce rate has always been high, and it is just hard to compare now and then with accuracy. I can't help but think that the slant everyone has going into studies (this is all the fault of the war) keeps us from actually being able to accurately figure out what IS the fault of the war.
And that keeps us from being able to understand what steps we CAN take to make things better.
Posted by: airforcewife at July 20, 2008 05:14 PM (mIbWn)
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Adultery is no longer shameful and, in some units, seems to be the norm. It's not punished or even actively discouraged unless the wronged spouse complains - and complains LOUDLY. A lot of our choices, especially when young, are still influenced by peer pressure. Unfortunately, we are no longer enlisting a majority of what I call "good people." And yes, it's turned me into quite the cynic. If one more guy asks me to tell him the 'legal' way to commit adultery while waiting on his divorce, I'm going to clock him!
Bottom line - it's becoming easier and more acceptable every day to divorce after 10 months or so of marriage. It's unfortunate, but it's more a 'cut my losses' attitude, instead of sticking it out and remembering why you married the person in the first place. (Although I do discourage them from having children together until the marriage is in a better place. And I think anti-depressants are MASSIVELY underprescribed - for the soldiers and the spouses! Thank goodness we had a good, tight group of support during the deployment!)
Posted by: Oda Mae at July 21, 2008 05:03 AM (VVzar)
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I agree that deployments during WWII and Vietnam are grossly misrepresented. Servicemembers were gone for much longer periods of time and communication was much more difficult then. You've talked about deployment being like snowflakes, maybe wars are a bit like that too. Our servicemembers are deploying for shorter times and more often but that also means they are having to transition more often and maybe that is hard on the psyche. I don't know as I haven't had to do that. I've only had to be the one at home.
I can see where the chaplain was coming from about deployments and marital strength. Long separations DO put stresses on people and marriages. It isn't easy but, as you say, there are families out there coping and coping well. But I wonder if it's the separation that is the breaking point for some couples or the reintegration?
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A PECK OF PEPPERS
I've never grown anything edible before, so I am fascinated by my new little garden. I go out and look at it constantly, mostly to marvel but also to be on the lookout for
hornworms!
So I was tickled pink to come home from DC and find that my little buds and marble-sized peppers had turned into this:
Four on one little plant! How is it standing under all that weight? And the little pepper that I took a photo of a month ago?
He's red! He's still only the size of a golfball though. But this farmer thing is addictive.
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Posted by: Green at July 20, 2008 03:59 AM (6Co0L)
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We have a garden. Sadly, it's not thriving as well as we'd hoped. Okay, not at all, but mom's is so I still have my source of fresh veggies for the summer. We didn't plant much, but our bowl full of grape tomatoes and three cucumbers has made us kind of giddy.
Posted by: Susan at July 20, 2008 06:00 AM (bwlsC)
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It is fun, isn't it!
I have a small garden as well, not a GIANT one that I grew up with, but we really enjoy it.
Not a huge harvest, but worth it.
Cute little peppers!
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How exciting!! I've been considering starting a garden too...Now I REALLY want to!
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July 19, 2008
MY ALTERNATE REALITY
The Girl and I have a running motivational speech, wherein we admonish each other not to live in an alternate reality. Hers is that if her husband hadn't deployed and gotten stop-moved, she would be back in the US now instead of still languishing in Germany. Mine is that I would already have a baby instead of still being in not-able-to-be-pregnant hell. We have to constantly remind each other that, even though we don't like it, we have to live in the reality that is.
But this is hard for me today, because my husband just found out his next deployment schedule. He still has six months left on this one, and he already knows tentative dates for the next one. And I can't help but be overwhelmingly disappointed that this baby we were pregnant with a month ago would've worked out so perfectly. Baby would've been born right after the husband got back, and he would've been here for the birth and then maximized his time at home before he left again. Now that we already know when he's leaving again, it's like another sock in the gut that I wish this baby had worked out.
I am still planning on getting fertility testing done, and perhaps heading into Mordor this fall. But if things go perfectly well, and I get pregnant on my own in a doctor's office right away, the baby will be born right as my husband is deploying again. That is not a reality I care to live in. In fact, that was the exact reason that we started trying to have a baby when we did, so we could avoid such a crappy situation. But there it is. Perfect Baby is no longer with us, and now we get Undesirably Timed Baby. That is, if Baby even works out for us at all.
I promise you, The Girl, that I am trying really hard not to dwell on that alternate reality, where my husband actually gets to enjoy the birth and early life of his child. And I swear, I was doing really well and was practically over the fact that I am not pregnant anymore. I was moving on, but this is something that makes me wistful for the alternate reality I almost had.
However, I take some vicarious comfort in this: no matter how we slice it, you will be back living in the US before any sort of baby enters our home! And that is something to definitely look forward to.
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I am so sorry. I hate when life sets you back just as you're getting your feet back under you.
As for the perfect timing, who knows? Things may change between now and the next time he's due to deploy. You may find that what you thought was horribly-timed may not be.
In the meantime, it all sucks big donkey balls. And I'm sorry.
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CUTE
Yay, CaliValleyGirl finally
graced us with her presence, and she even included a picture of her baby wearing the sweater I made for him. Um, the sweater that was supposed to fit him this coming winter, at six
months, not six weeks. He's a big'un.
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OH HEAVENS
Dear AirForceGuy,
You know how you were ashamed that my Tibetan terrier kicked your pit bull's butt? I have a piece of news you'll be interested in. Remember how Charlie kept scratching his ears the whole week? We went to the vet yesterday: he has a yeast infection in his ears.
Trust me, our dogs are equally emasculated.
Poor Charlie, that's just not cool at all.
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Poor Charlie! Hope his ears start feeling better.
Maybe Ike GAVE Charlie a yeast infection??
Heh.
Posted by: Guard Wife at July 19, 2008 08:39 AM (HcWCp)
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SLEEP
One of the bad things about having a deployed husband and no job is that I don't
have to do anything. Time is just one big fluid thing, and the distinction between separate days becomes arbitrary.
I have always been an insomniac, but having a husband with a set schedule helps keep me on a system. Now that he's gone, there's no reason to go get in bed. I end up promising myself 'just one more episode' or 'just one more chapter.' My bedtime creeps ever so later: 1AM, 2AM. Same with when I get out of bed; if there's no job to go to, and I stayed up until 2AM, why not sleep until 9:00? It's a bad cycle.
But last night, I found myself exhausted. I felt like I was drugged, I was so tired. Maybe it was the midnight drive home from DC catching up to me, I don't know. But I shut the lights out last night at 8:45, before it was even dark outside. And I woke up this morning at 7:45. That's a heck of a slumber.
Oh, and trust me, I am enjoying it while it lasts. There's my silver lining to not having kids yet; I can sleep for 11 hours if I need to.
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I know exactly what you mean!! When I got off work this afternoon my thought was that I don't have to be anywhere in particular until Monday morning. I just have time to fill.
I find I have to set even little goals for each day just so I feel like I haven't completely wasted the day way while Nerdstar's away - even if it's just cleaning the bathtub!
I'm having a hard time with the "just one more episode" of Buffy lately.
Posted by: Beth at July 19, 2008 08:40 AM (tx4BE)
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Sleep is a beautiful thing!
M1 left today to visit her dad's family and M2 leaves tomorrow to hang out at my mom's while I study like a fiend.
Your dilemma will become mine. I MUST stay on a respectable sleep schedule so I'm ready to go in NINE days, but it will be hard to put myself to bed and get up when I need to when no one is around asking for Fruit Loops and Noggin-on-demand.
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July 18, 2008
DERP
The husband sent me a good link today, under the simple email subject line of "Krauthammer rules":
Who Does Obama Think He Is?
Incidentally, I watched North By Northwest last night -- such a good movie and can I point out how Cary Grant makes me melt? -- and I had a good chuckle when I remembered Obama's bonehead question of how they had filmed the movie on top of Mount Rushmore. I hope he hadn't seen that movie in a long time, because the Rushmore they used was comically fake-looking. It is entirely obvious it wasn't the real deal.
But hey, at least Obama didn't ask to see the entrance where Nicolas Cage found the city of gold.
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July 17, 2008
I'M HOME
Thomas Sowell is so smart.
One of the most naive notions is that politicians are trying to solve the country's problems, just because they say so-- or say so loudly or inspiringly.
Politicians' top priority is to solve their own problem, which is how to get elected and then re-elected. Barack Obama is a politician through and through, even though pretending that he is not is his special strategy to get elected.
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Perhaps a defining moment in showing Senator Obama's priorities was his declaring, in answer to a question from Charles Gibson, that he was for raising the capital gains tax rate. When Gibson reminded him of the well-documented fact that lower tax rates on capital gains had produced more actual revenue collected from that tax than the higher tax rates had, Obama was unmoved.
The question of how to raise more revenue may be the economic issue but the political issue is whether socking it to "the rich" in the name of "fairness" gains more votes.
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I don't see the need to throw EVERY politician under the bus just to prove the point about Obama.
Yea, yea I know they all suck, blah, blah...whatever.
Posted by: tim at July 17, 2008 11:31 AM (nno0f)
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Tim...obviously, some are much better than others. But an important and often-forgotten point is that politicians & government officials are themselves economic actors rather than pure-hearted referees.
I think leftists and even traditional liberals often tend to think of "the government" as being comprised of idealized parent-figures, rather than understanding that these are just humans who respond to incentives.
Posted by: david foster at July 17, 2008 12:05 PM (ke+yX)
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I cringe everytime I hear Obama talk about a "fair" economy...that's the big code word for taxing the "rich" and transferring the wealth to the government. It makes my stomach turn and it angers me that he gets cheers after saying that. I heard Mitt Romney speak the other day and the only thing I could think was, "Only if..."
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July 15, 2008
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Ralph Peters on "the audacity of hope":
Audacity is for innovators, risk-takers and crusaders - for those willing to stand in the fire of public opinion and tell a million people they're wrong and here's why. Audacity's not for the passive mob hoping government will fix everything (while blaming government for everything).
Hope is the opposite of audacity. It's passive, an excuse for inaction.
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I don't know that I agree with him. I think hope
can be audacious, just not in the way that the left in this case tends to use it. I think that the "hope" he describes in this quote is really better described as dependency and lack of initiative, and not as hope itself. I think that "hope" can be audacious when hope and desire spur a person to action; and this may very well be Obama's interpretation for use in his title. I don't agree with the "actions" that Obama and his crowd are spurred to, but I don't necessarily agree that the phrase is itself a contradiction.
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July 14, 2008
LOVELY VACATION
My time at Heather's house was so nice; we just sat and crocheted together for three days. I joked to her husband that we were going to get bedsores! It was so relaxing and nice to just talk. And her husband used to be Civil Affairs, so we compared notes.
I'm here at AirForceHouse now. There was an "incident" tonight: Charlie was wrestling with their dog and their dog's foot got caught and it ripped his toenail completely out by the root. Ouch! AirForceGuy is mortified that our Tibetan terrier managed to take down his pit bull. Heh.
More later.
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July 11, 2008
NO PRIZES FOR ME
I don't feel so great today. Unsettled, disappointed, depressed. Getting lasik surgery was supposed to be my consolation prize for losing the baby; now it looks like I don't get First Place
or the consolation prize. No prizes for me. No silver lining, no green grass, no happy ending. They told me to come back in a week and they'll re-run the eye tests to be certain.
Thank goodness I already had something good planned for this week.
I leave tomorrow to go visit friends. My first stop is Heather, the recipient of all those squares I've been crocheting. We will have a nice couple of days of pure crafting, and I can have some precious company while I get some more work done on my afghans. My next stop is AirForceFamily. AirForceGuy has even arranged a Top Secret excursion, something that even required some sort of security clearance. I am so curious to see what it is. (And so is my husband, apparently!)
You know, I was supposed to take this trip in May, but a dead baby threw a monkey wrench in it. I am really glad that I happened to reschedule for right now, because I could use the distraction and the joy in my life.
Today will go down as a really bad day in my life: the day I felt extra salt in my wounds. But if this is the worst day I ever have to face, then I will have lived a very good life.
It just sucks today.
But my vacation will help boost my spirits.
And I'm taking the laptop, so I hope to stick around the 'sphere...
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Well I'm sorry to hear that your eyes aren't playing by the rules. Don't they know they aren't allowed to boycott your party? Poopers!
Enjoy your vacation!
In the words of Chicken: Every day is a new day.
Posted by: Darla at July 11, 2008 02:47 PM (tIKcE)
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I'm pretty bummed, too. I wish we were closer.
Posted by: Allison at July 12, 2008 07:30 AM (jUCsS)
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Hi Sarah,
I hope that you have one heck of a good vacation, ... you certainly deserve it! Take care, and have fun on the Top Secret adventure : )
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TEH FUNNY
Well, this cheers me up today. I clicked on Instapundit and my heart literally skipped a beat when I
saw that Mark Steyn was hosting the Rush Limbaugh show today. I ran to the radio.
Also, this sent me into fits too.
I am not what you would call outdoorsy. If I wanted anything that was outdoors, I'd hire someone to bring it inside where civilization lives. [...]
Anyway, on my recent trip to Branson, we were staying at a hotel with both an indoor and an outdoor pool and spa. You already know which one I used. As I sat in the hot tub, inside the air conditioned building, I realized I was a full two layers away from nature, and I liked it. The air conditioning protected me from the heat outside, and the warm water of the hot tub protected me from the air conditioning. In time, the hot tub became too hot, and I wished I had some sort of thermos suit I could wear to take the edge off.
UPDATE:
I guess I ought to specify: they were fits of laughter. Maybe I have a weird sense of humor, but I thought that was darned funny. Take that, Al Gore.
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Metrosexual femboy. ItÂ’s pervasive in our society. (Notice all the Obama supporters).
Sarah, when you have a boy, and you will, please donÂ’t let him be like that clown.
Posted by: tim at July 11, 2008 08:18 AM (nno0f)
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Update: My original comment still stands.
I can actually hear the lisp in his writing.
Posted by: tim at July 11, 2008 09:42 AM (nno0f)
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Oh yes, I heard him too. He did me a lot of good with laughter. He has such a way with words. And his riff on J Jackson was so good, he really got a lot of that in. Too bad he is from Canada I've vote him for pres anytime.
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TOO MUCH REJECTION
I can't carry a baby.
And my corneas are too thin for lasik.
I hate my body.
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Posted by: Emily at July 11, 2008 06:19 AM (cZoqf)
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Wow. That is too much.
But you ARE healthy otherwise, right?
(I know. Dontcha hate positive thinkers?)
Posted by: Tonya at July 11, 2008 06:53 AM (KV0YP)
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oh sarah. I am sorry to hear this. Thinking of you & sending hugs.
Posted by: keri at July 11, 2008 07:40 AM (HXpRG)
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One of my doctors once told me that I should not hate my body. I was having some real problems, I didn't lose any babies, but I felt it had really let me down. He was right, but sometimes that is so hard to do. Right now I'm at the computer a lot because I am so bored and hating my body because it is hurting from arthritis and I can't do anything else. I love working in my yard, bending over just makes so much pain. I understand how you feel, you are entitled. I guess at 71 I just keep thinking I should feel like I'm 35, but that is how old I was when he told me that, same problem, just in the hip then. It moves around and comes and goes and I know this too shall pass. And I'm hoping your troubles too will pass.
Posted by: Ruth H at July 11, 2008 11:09 AM (FAgoX)
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*hugs* I can't imagine how frustrating this must be for you.
I am glad to see you had some fits of laughter today, though.
Take care.
Posted by: Butterfly Wife at July 11, 2008 11:43 AM (u16Hw)
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That sucks. I'm sorry.
Can I buy you a drink?
Posted by: Allison at July 11, 2008 12:39 PM (jUCsS)
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{{{hug}}}
That sucks big donkey balls. I'm sorry.
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July 10, 2008
I STILL HEART VARIFRANK (I JUST HAD FORGOTTEN HOW MUCH)
When I first started blogging, I read every single blog on my blogroll every single day. I was fastidious. Nowadays, I am so blog-scatterbrained; I don't think there's one blog I read every day. Thus I haven't read Varifrank in a while, so forgive me that these links are old.
I wasn't the biggest fan in the world of There Will Be Blood, but God how I love that "I drink your milkshake" line. I love how you can use it now and it sums up a whole concept in one little silly line. I just get tickled pink every time I see it. (Not to mention that you can also explain the concept using the names J.R. Ewing and Monty Burns.)
Varifrank, from a month ago: Canada to US: I Drink Your Milkshake! And you know exactly what the post will be about. I just love that line.
(Of course, my very favorite use of There Will Be Blood is this blog post from iSteve. Oh my, that was clever. I mean, that deserves an award or something.)
Oh, and Varifrank wrote a doozie two weeks ago when Wesley Clark opened his yapper. Priceless.
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LOL. My husband quotes that "I drink your milkshake" line about once a week now. It is a great line.
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NIIICE
File under "I wish I had thought to say that."
Lileks on Obama's "merci beaucoup" inanity yesterday:
In the context of English-as-a-national-tongue laws, itÂ’s an interesting assertion: Apparently it is right to expect people who visit Paris to speak French the day they get there, but it is cultural chauvinism to expect people who want to live and work in America to understand English well enough to navigate a ballot.
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I'm still shaking my head over Jesse Jackson's open-mic comments about Obama. Where's the outrage? Why isn't Sharpton denouncing him?
Posted by: R1 at July 10, 2008 06:50 AM (y1Xat)
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Giving a shout out to the man,the genius,James Lileks!
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July 09, 2008
NO MORE TOMATOES
My mother and I planted a vegetable garden while she was here, and I had four thriving, big tomato plants on the back fence. I go out there tonight and find this.
Every second plant was stripped completely bare. No leaves. Huh? I move in for a closer look.
Two of the fattest, grossest caterpillars took up residence in my garden. Both totally engorged with an entire tomato plant. They were about four inches long and as thick around as a Tootsie Roll.
Blech.
Naturally, I pried them off with a spatula and dumped them over the fence into the neighbor's yard. They don't have anything planted in their yard anyway.
I'm bad.
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Growing up it used to be a contest to see who could find the tomato worm first. Sometimes it was quite a challange, and if you are very quiet sometimes you can hear them chomping away. We would usually torture them once we found them.
Posted by: Kellee at July 10, 2008 03:19 AM (w2MFa)
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To use a very old SNL phrase, "It's always something!" Tomato hornworms should be smashed immediately, they will turn into moths that come back, lay more eggs, make more worms. An endless cycle.I don't have any here, don't need them. We have leaf cutter ants that come overnight and do the job instead of them. Went out this morning with coffee cup in hand, only to find pepper plants stripped. They will even take the little peppers. They take them to their nests to plant their fungus gardens! The only plants they haven't taken at one time is mother of million kalanchoe plant, one I detest and is a pest! and cacti. They don't eat anything but the flower stems of aloe vera, so I never get to see them bloom. They love flower buds. So do the deer.
So I'm turning this into a rant. Oh well.
Sarah, next time you see those critters smash them!!
Posted by: Ruth H at July 10, 2008 03:43 AM (4u82p)
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Oh, Ruth...they were SO fat; it grosses me out to think of smashing such a fat bug. There would be smashed bug everywhere! Ewwww.
Posted by: Sarah at July 10, 2008 04:32 AM (TWet1)
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Yeah I don't squish either. That's what RAID is for. Sorry about your tomato's. You could still start over with cherry tomato's and get some fruit.
Posted by: Mare at July 10, 2008 05:08 AM (APbbU)
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Yep, Ruth, remember how D. would smash them for me when he was young. Give the kid a brick and he was lethal! ;0)
Posted by: tt at July 10, 2008 06:05 AM (S/Fac)
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I took a bunch of pictures of my beautiful, ruby-red strawberries, which I protected with bird netting last year and thought would protect them this year.
I walked out the door the very next day, and they were ALL GONE. I think some critters (deer? raccoons?) came and got 'em.
Oh well, at least I got pictures!
Posted by: Deltasierra at July 10, 2008 12:35 PM (7uphd)
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I hesitated to tell you the easiest way to "terminate" the hornworms...pair of scissors...cut them in half...not as messy as squashing (and truth be told I don't look when I do it)
Posted by: Mary*Ann at July 10, 2008 07:23 PM (lnAFP)
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Well, a jar of water works too, just put them in and hide it so you don't have to see it. Just don't let them live. I don't like to smash them directly either, put them under the mulch and step on them, that works. They are bio-degradable! ;D
Posted by: Ruth at July 11, 2008 05:29 AM (BkiKe)
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My dad used to feed them to our (very small) dog. I watched her eat one once and nearly threw up. I thought for sure she was going to choke on that huge, thick, squishy thing. Yuck.
Posted by: Ivy at July 11, 2008 07:42 AM (A1thK)
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HAHAHA
I talked to
ArmyWifeToddlerMom this evening. She is unable to get online at her father's house, so she has been in non-internet limbo for a long time now. She's itching to get back. And I'm itching to hear from her again, because she always kills me.
One of AWTM's charms is her filthy mouth. Sadly, she's now going to have to curb her enthusiasm, especially for her favorite insult. Her son, Sir Rowland, is apparently cut from the same cloth as she is, and his inner-AWTM is starting to shine through. They were eating in a restaurant the other day and the waiter took a really long time to bring the kids their plates. As the waiter handed her son his dish and turned to go, Sir Rowland muttered under his breath, "Thanks, douchebag."
Ha. He's exactly like his mama.
We miss you, AWTM.
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PRICELESS! I'd have to stifle laughter to be a good parent and try and correct the potty mouth... while at the same time wanting to record it and show it to the family.
Posted by: sara at July 09, 2008 02:36 PM (lS9hT)
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I LOVE this story.
It is especially poignant to me after hearing M2 exclaim, "Holy Shiz-nay" when she ran into the house from a driving rain and slipped a bit in the entry...just like her Mama.
I truly need to meet SR and PN in person.
Posted by: Guard Wife at July 09, 2008 03:34 PM (ccp31)
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Too damn funny! Littles hear, remember, and repeat rough language at the WORST possible moment! (remember the Lifebuoy soap scene from the movie A Christmas Story?)
Posted by: Mary at July 09, 2008 08:40 PM (3k4VW)
Posted by: Debey at July 10, 2008 04:20 AM (NcY+H)
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Oh yeah, I forgot how this works.
First time at the gym after a hiatus = fun
Second time at the gym = ouch
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Third time at the gym loosens up sore muscles and makes everything feel better.
If you figure out how to do anything with yarn while exercising, let me know! :-p
Posted by: loquita at July 09, 2008 10:21 AM (kZVsz)
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Oh! I need to know that yarn thing, too!
Try the treadclimber! It burns more calories than anything!
Posted by: airforcewife at July 09, 2008 11:00 AM (mIbWn)
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