November 02, 2006
NONBOTCHED JOKES
Some people have got waaay better jokes than John Kerry. Like Right Thoughts'
interview with "John Kerry's Intentions":
KerryÂ’s intentions: Jim...Jimbo. Jimmykins. Jimka. Listen. ItÂ’s simple. John is smarter than you. He knows that you little people canÂ’t afford food, and youÂ’re too stupid to become lawyers and marry rich widows. Therefore, most of you end up at one point or another either becoming volunteers for his campaign or you become horrible, murdering rapists reminiscent of Jen-jiss Khan...i.e. you join the military.
JimK: But wait a minute. ThatÂ’s just reinforcing the notion that the statement was slanderous against the military in the first place! I donÂ’t get it. What are you trying to say here?
KerryÂ’s intentions: Jim-bo-lah. Jim-o-rama. Jimmy crack corn...I know this is upper-level material here, but try to stay with me. Senator Kerry despises the little people, so he made a joke about Bush that wasnÂ’t about Bush, wasnÂ’t true, contained factual truths and wasnÂ’t a joke, because he care about you, the common man. You see?
JimK: No. No I do not see. In fact, everything you said contradicts everything else you said.
KerryÂ’s intentions: Well, I was against this interview before I was for it, so there you have it.
Heh. Read the whole thing. JimK's got mad jokes.
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Okay, you guys have become obsessed with an off-the-cuff remark by John Kerry which isn't going to change anybody's minds about voting, right or left.
Posted by: Will at November 02, 2006 11:35 AM (QRBGL)
Posted by: Sarah at November 02, 2006 02:52 PM (7Wklx)
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Actually, I was just reading about evangelical leader Ted Haggard, and that did make me chuckle to myself... oh evangelicals.... when will you guys get a break?...
Posted by: Will at November 03, 2006 10:19 AM (QRBGL)
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Regardless of Kerry's intentions, it would have to go some to compare with Bush saying that in the history books all the death and destruction in Iraq (including American troops killed) will be "just a comma".
Posted by: Realist at November 04, 2006 05:33 PM (tcNja)
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GOOD POINT
Again with the
Lileks:
I understand how some are using the gaffe to draw attention to a greater point re: the hard leftÂ’s attitudes towards the military, but if that wasnÂ’t actually the point Kerry was making then I canÂ’t jump on board and affirm the greater point. That smacks of fake-but-accurate.
He has a point, and we'll leave it at that. And just wait and see what happens next week.
Last night I asked my husband if part of being a grown-up means getting an ulcer every two years. I can see why less than half the country cares about voting: it's entirely too stressful to pay attention. Even when your personal choice is a no-brainer (dude, I vote in Missouri), watching the rest of it unfold is torture.
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So, you are on board with giving someone, Kerry, the benefit of the doubt regarding NOT being anti-military. ThatÂ’s not fake-but-accurate equivalence, thatÂ’s just ignorance.
Sorry, still like your blog.
Posted by: tim at November 02, 2006 07:08 AM (nno0f)
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No, I truly believe Kerry has utter contempt for the military. But Lileks is right that if he really did mean it to be a joke on Bush, then it's fake-but-accurate to say that this particular instance is a manifestation of his contempt. I have no idea what he meant to say or what's just spin to cover his ass. Either way, it doesn't change the fact that I can't stand the man and think he's a pompous fool. I simply was posting Lilek's observation because I think it's an astute one.
Posted by: Sarah at November 02, 2006 07:56 AM (7Wklx)
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OK, gotchÂ’a, weÂ’re cool.
That aside, in my humble personal opinion I believe he said EXACTLY what he meant to say considering the tainted history of the man, the context versus where he was speaking, the supposed joke that really doesnÂ’t work, etc, etcÂ… (No need to rehash it all).
Posted by: tim at November 03, 2006 03:55 AM (nno0f)
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I tend to believe that Charles Johnson had it right when he said "Two words: Occam's Razor." It seems likely he thought the joke would go over well for his audience & didn't expect it to be blasted on YouTube. So he's backtracking. By all means, I think something like that certainly could've come out of that man's mouth. But some people honestly heard the joke and thought he meant Bush from the get-go. So who knows? More disgusting, I think, is
this stuff from ABC News, where they're basically defending Kerry, saying that he's right that stupid people join the military. Sigh.
Posted by: Sarah at November 03, 2006 05:45 AM (7Wklx)
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November 01, 2006
GEM
Gnat woke up with an earache on Halloween, which led Lileks to write this
intensely insightful tidbit:
The school party was off, though, and that was a crushing disappointment. At least she didn’t say “it’s not fair.” You never know quite how to respond to that. You want them to believe that things are fair and good and happy and full of sparkly unicorn-dust, and your inner Drill Instructor wants to bark “Suck it up, half-pint! There’s a whole lot more unfairness rolling down the road and you’d best learn how to get out of its way! Now drop and give me 20!” It’s not fair has an impotent and powerless ring to it, and I’m glad she doesn’t say it much. I think I drummed “just my luck” out of her early on, too; that one’s poison. Luck is like Communism – believe in it if you like, just don’t base your actions on it.
My husband and I have begun to talk more and more frequently about how we want to raise our imaginary kids. And this gem of parenting advice -- thrown willy-nilly into The Bleat as only James Lileks can do -- really spoke to me.
My husband loathes people with an external locus of control, people who whine that it's always circumstances or bad luck or fate or someone else's fault that things didn't go their way. We talk constantly about how we can instill personal responsibility in our imaginary kids, and I think this nugget from Lileks is one idea we can keep tucked in our brains for future reference.
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EXACTLY. We are only victims of our own self. Period. At least that's how I look at things, and it sure does make it easier to get through lifes disappointments.....
Posted by: Tammi at November 01, 2006 01:17 PM (3UQTn)
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My high school physics/calculus teacher always responded to students who complained about something not being fair that "A fair is a place where you ride rides"
Posted by: Peg at November 01, 2006 04:53 PM (JemrD)
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Sarah,
I think you will like this, Cat blogged on it...
she died laughing
http://aswiftkick.mu.nu/archives/150614.html
Posted by: armywifetoddlermom at November 01, 2006 05:16 PM (IVwWm)
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We have always taught our children that there is no luck. They control the outcome with their actions.
I currently work with a large group of civilians and whenever they have personal problems and begin to complain they come by my desk and state "but my life isn't as tough as yours, Vonn".
Response: "Suck it up. If you can't fix it don't whine about it, truck on!"
Did a lifetime of military association give me this attitude? If so, how can we teach it to civilians? I love my co-workers, but I can't only watch a married man struggle so much, because he wife is out of town on business for 3 weeks and he has to care for his 8 year old son alone AND function at work. Not to mention, Grandma and Grandpa live down the street. Sob, sob, gag!
Posted by: Vonn at November 01, 2006 06:45 PM (/VoEr)
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BOTCHED JOKE INDEED
OK, let's give Kerry the benefit of the doubt here and assume he was trying to
make fun of President Bush instead of the troops. So what's the joke then? Study hard, kids, so one day you will grow up to be...
not as dumb as the President of the United States? What kind of joke is that? Don't parents usually urge kids to study so they don't have to flip burgers, not so they won't become flipping President of the United States and make a decision that über-liberal senators disagree with? Good lord, one would hope that a presidential candidate would show more respect for the office of the presidency than that. I think it's foolhardy to send the message to young people that the president is someone to mock and jeer. As if young people these days could get
more disrespectful of adults; Kerry doesn't need to fuel that fire.
Not to mention that the joke doesn't work very well, considering Bush and Kerry got roughly the same grades in college. And Kerry's wife doesn't even know what chili is. Let's not call any kettles black here.
MORE TO GROK:
WhoÂ’s the real flunky? Someone tell Kerry itÂ’s not military via RofaSix
MORE:
Hahahahha. You HAVE to click on this photo from Iraq...
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Funny! Love that photo . . .
Posted by: heidi at November 01, 2006 09:31 AM (E0L31)
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Sarah - I love your blog. I have never commented but have very similar political beliefs. John Kerry is ridiculous. I dont even know how else to describe his remarks. What an ass. I'll leave it at that. I just saw that he apologized for anyone who thought they were offensive. Whatever...
God Bless our troops.
PS - That picture is PRICELESS.
Posted by: keri at November 01, 2006 01:08 PM (PgLZz)
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John Kerry should sit down and shut up. He's like the Mark Foley of the democratic party... except without the homosexual pedophilia thing.
At the same time, I know what it's like being "stuck" at a shitty job, and maybe some people over there do feel stuck right now. So I don't think it's a big deal to say so.
Posted by: Will at November 01, 2006 05:09 PM (QRBGL)
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That pictures is awesome!
Interesting note....I had my 17 year old listen to the comments and without any input from me, he assumed Kerry was referring to Bush and his handling of Iraq.
Now, my husband and I dont' align with any party 100%, but my sons response surprises me. How could he hear it that way?
Can a person be born a Democrat? LOL
Posted by: Vonn at November 01, 2006 06:54 PM (/VoEr)
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Maybe the right has reading comprehension problems, I read the text of the speech, and it was damned clear to me he was busting little Georgies chops. I served too, and I too think this president and his staff has FUCKED UP monumentally, "that is just my opinion, I could be wrong". As Dennis Miller used to say back in the days when he was actually funny
Posted by: BubbaBoBobBrain at November 01, 2006 08:16 PM (8ruhu)
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Oh man, Bubba. Dennis Miller is still the funniest man on the block.
Posted by: Sarah at November 02, 2006 04:32 AM (7Wklx)
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Small world note!
One of the managers where I work noted that the third soldier from the left is his nephew.
Small, small, small world!
Posted by: Vonn at November 02, 2006 07:14 AM (Xpg1G)
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BOOK
I just finished reading
Taking Science to the Moon. It was an interesting book on the minutiae of the Apollo program: who got the contract to design the little rake they used to pick up moon rocks; the intense design specifications of the boxes used to transport samples; the million-dollar science experiments that failed because of a gravity calculation error. Usually when we think of Apollo, we think of the giant leap for mankind, but this book delineated all of the small steps for man. Good book if you're an Apollo junkie like I am.
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