July 05, 2004
LINKS
I have some papers to grade, so here are some links in the meantime:
Iraq Now points out the win-win nature of the 12 chemical shells the Poles found.
The sister of one of the pilots killed at the Pentagon crash has some words for the American public regarding the 9/11 commission.
And watch Saddam play a rousing game of Paper Rock Scissors (via Smash).
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Iraq Now points out the win-win nature of the 12 chemical shells the Poles found.
Uh,
not exactly:
Sixteen rocket warheads found last week in south-central Iraq by Polish troops did not contain deadly chemicals, a coalition spokesman said Friday, but U.S. and Polish officials agreed that insurgents loyal to former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and foreign terrorist fighters are trying to buy such old weapons or purchase the services of Iraqi scientists who know how to make them.
The Coalition Press Information Center in Baghdad said in a statement Friday that the 122-millimeter rocket rounds, which initially showed traces of sarin, "were all empty and tested negative for any type of chemicals."
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July 04, 2004
INDEPENDENCE
I wanted to write something really special for the Fourth of July. I read through lots of my old posts, through old emails home, through papers I wrote when I took that year of ROTC, searching for inspiration. But I just didn’t have anything else to add. I realized that when you live every day as an American – when you are proud of your country and wear your service flag and regimental crest pins every single day – then you don’t need to step it up a notch for 24 hours in July. Independence Day to a diehard patriot is like Valentine’s Day for newlyweds: it’s simply a day where the rest of society notices what you cherish daily.
When I took the Military Science class, the first year of ROTC, we were required to write an autobiography. Most of the students in the class were in their third week of college; I was a senior with a strong background in writing. I had a bit more experience to draw from than the rest of the class. The teacher, our beloved Captain R, told me mine was the best ROTC autobiography he'd ever seen and that he was passing it out to every Soldier he knew. I didn't think it was anything amazing; it was just the truth. I read it again yesterday, and I still feel the same way (though I must resist the urge to revise). Excerpt:
I am one of the oldest students in the MS 100 class, since I find myself rapidly approaching the ripe old age of twenty-two. As a senior in the class, I have been surrounded by people who are just beginning the scholarly journey I started long ago.
The most important part of this journey for me was last year, when I was a student in a French university. I spent an entire year on study abroad, which accounts for my tardy enrollment in Military Science as a senior. This was a pivotal moment in my scholarly life as a French major, because my outlook on the future has been radically changed by this time I spent away from my homeland. I found that France was nice, but it was not home. I felt aimless and rootless. I had a difficult time placing myself in a society into which I did not easily fit. I found myself standing up for my own country and facing people who were hostile to that for which my country stands. I found myself shying from the French thought and becoming more American than I ever imagined I would be.
I had always been a patriotic person. My favorite holiday is Independence Day, and I won the Daughters of the American Revolution award in high school. But once faced with people who did not respect the basic tenets of the country which I held so dear, I found within a great longing for my motherland. I returned from this year in France with a confused sense of what it is I want to become as a French major and a heightened sense of who I am as an American.
And then I began MS 100. Originally, I had just thought that it would be a better option than Health and Wellness. I would learn something to which I had never before been exposed: how the military is arranged and how it runs. I soon found that I enjoyed the class more than I had previously foreseen. On the first day of lab, even without a uniform, I envisioned myself part of something larger than I could fathom. As the cannons blasted and words were read, words of unity, justice, and freedom, I felt so proud. I felt very proud of my country, very proud to call myself an American, and proud to have called myself an américaine in France.
I never imagined that standing there in the group with me on the first day of lab was a young man who would one day be the most important person in my life. I signed up for MS 100 because of the paintball and rappelling; I'm happy to have stayed because of the values the military represents. The closing paragraph of my autobiography is ironic, considering the turn my life took when I met that young man in ROTC.
I had an argument with a foreigner the other day. He comes from a country where military service is mandatory and therefore seen as a burden and a hindrance to young men. Therefore, our opinions on the ROTC program clashed fiercely. What I said, on behalf of my experiences, was that the ROTC is a wonderful program, one that can provide students with a taste for the military, however diluted this taste may be. And through this experience of MS 100, a scholar can decide if he has been called to become a part of this greater collectivity of brave men who devote their lives to the country I cherish so much. I am proud to associate myself with these ideals, even if only for one year.
I believe these things every day of my life; I don't need to act any different today. I'll fly my flag, wear my pins, and be grateful that brave Americans today and yesterday have fought and died for what I cherish. Just like I try to do every other day.
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That was the perfect post for today.
Happy 4th of July Sarah! IMHO - This country is great because of people like you.
Posted by: Tammi at July 04, 2004 08:22 AM (VsBSK)
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Sarah,
Happy Independence day to you, and all the others not able to be here today. I think this year my focus is going to be on dissent, not dissent for the sake of being disagreeable mind you, but educated dissent. The freedoms we have today are because the founders dissented with the prevailing thought of the day. The prevailing thought in the mid-1700's was "the king has dominion over this land". By 1776 that thought had been somewhat altered, and thus began our nation. Being as this nation was founded by dissenters, we have a right, no strike that, we have an obligation to give "informed" dissent to the prevailing thoughts of our day. If I say I think Iraq is wrong it is not because I am being treasonous, as Coulter is wont to express. I dissent because I do study the issues, and I think there are better methods of "brute force" we have at our disposal. I thought Wolfowitz and his crew were insane in 1996 when I first read about the "Project for a new American century", I still think that whole crowd is certifiable. So I offer whatever informed dissent I can. This is why I read these blogs and bother to comment, so for this 4th of July I am reading as usual. I am re-reading Molly Ivins "Shrub" just to see how right she was 5 years ago.
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Posted by: Mike at July 04, 2004 01:55 PM (PaVgz)
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Bubba Bo...but are you *really* dissenting from "the prevailing thoughts of the day"? Seems to me that you stand with the major media, and with the opinions that they are using their tremendous economic power to propagate. You stand with the Hollywood celebrities, and with those that control America's universities. Yours is far from a lonely stand.
Posted by: David Foster at July 04, 2004 07:23 PM (XUtCY)
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Well I would be standing with those particular bozos if I, like them, was a chickenhawk-chickenshit. I did my six years, was lucky as all hell I did them entirely during "peace", 4 May '77- 23 Apr '83. I have an frigging idea of whence I speak which is why I don't think of those yutzes, when I make my remarks. Ahhh yes, here we go with the old "liberal media" dig, I sure have not seen all that much liberalism in my papers since the goddamned 60's, starting in the 70's with the single exception of Watergate the media in this nation have been asleep at the wheel, Iran-Contra was waaaaaaayyyyyyy worse than Watergate yet was given nearly a free pass by this so called liberal media. Since the advent of consolidation in the media, begining 20 years ago, they have not been all that liberal.
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Bubba, coincidentally
Instapundit links to a study on this very topic today.
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REIGN
I have seen
discussions of whether President Bush -- reputation for being a complete idiot -- meant to say "reign" or "ring" in his note. I think he said it
exactly right.
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If President Bush had written the Gettysburg address, the anti-Bush crowd would be wondering why he didn't just say, "Eighty-seven years ago..."
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I think he said exactly what he meant. When I heard it, my mind went immediately to the song lyric, as does everyoe else's. That is the phrase we associate as if it were a single word.
I would guess it was actually difficult to say reign rather than ring.
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July 03, 2004
TESTIFY
Good lord, what a
nightmare.
MORE TO GROK:
Apologies for being vague: the reason I think it's a nightmare is because the US might have to testify on behalf of that monster. Not because I'm hoodwinked.
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Sarah...
Seems all those flaming wingnuts that demanded Rumsfeld resign over A.G. Prison now have a choice to make.
I mean, either the big guy is responsible for everything that happens on his watch (as they want Rummy to be...) or he's not (as the stick in the Bush's eye crowd will hope Saddam isn't.)
And...with apologies to Dave Barry...I'm thinking the Flaming Wingnuts would be a great name for a band...
Posted by: Tim at July 03, 2004 01:38 PM (uiC9F)
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Sarah, see why I trust my government as far as I can defecate? You did know Saddam was a FORTY year CIA asset, didn't you? Like I mentioned I was on active duty when the Iranian embassy fiasco went down, I saw so many "mis-leading" statements in such a short time I just decided to read as much "clasified" material on the topic, as I was allowed. To say the secrets we try to keep would make much of "middle america" quite angry is a bit of an understatement. As for the response by someone in an earlier thread that the Iraq/Al Qaeda links are there, and I choose to ignore them, well let me point out a common feature of ALL toltalitarian states/dictatorship. These states rely on the supression of religion witness: Stalin, Mao, Hitler, you name the dictator. Saddam saw the Shia fundelmentalists as a threat, and while he might have paid the families of PLO suicide bombers some cash, he was not about to risk his control for a Islamic revolutionary like Bin-Laden. Glad to see you heard from your husband, may he remain safe and come home on time when his rotation is supposed to end.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at July 03, 2004 05:08 PM (4pVZJ)
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Bubba, what's interesting is that these facts have been in the public domain for years, just like the knowledge that Saddam had been unarmed by successful weapons inspections was also a verifiable fact. Which makes the Bush administration's campaign of lies to go to war all that more cynical, since they counted on people being ill-informed by the major media. I wonder if Sarah cited this because she is coming to realize they were hoodwinked.
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FIRSTHAND
My husband just called and told me about his new job: working with the Iraqi police in Najaf. It sounds like this job is much more rewarding than guard duty, though it can be frustrating for both the Iraqis and the Americans at times. He said a lot of what he's doing is motivation, speaking encouragingly to both Iraqi teens and the police. He said the police chief has really taken to him and they talk often. The police chief is frustrated about the situation in Najaf; he said that civilians sometimes come up to him and hit him with their slippers. He said (not a direct quote), "Back in Saddam's days, if you hit the police with your slipper, your whole family would be dead. But here I am, getting hit with slippers." Sometimes the police chief speaks a little too fondly of the law and order under Hussein, at which point my husband reminds him that Saddam killed many people. "Yeah, I guess he did kill my uncle..." the police chief admits. My husband said that they receive lots of praise from Iraqis in Najaf. The Iraqis are always telling them how brave they are and saying they're happy that the US came. They also say the Americans are good people for trying to avoid hitting their monuments and holy sites. Sometimes the Iraqis get frustrated and beg the Americans to just go in and kill all of the insurgents and get it over with, but my husband patiently explains why they can't do that. My husband said that the people he works with are very supportive, but that they all, Americans and Iraqis, spend a lot of time being frustrated.
I told him it was great to hear these stories because we here can lose sight of how regular Iraqis are feeling. We get so much gloom and doom. I'm glad I got to hear firsthand from him that the Iraqi men he works with are supportive and honorable.
MORE TO GROK:
Good analogy. Incidentally, all of fad's posts that I love are the ones he wants to delete...
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*SHRIEK*
You husband has become a mouthpuppet for George W. Bush! Good news from Iraq? Can't be! Blah! Neocons! Jews! Hitler! Proof it's about oil! Unelected!
*SHRIEK*
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So glad he got to call!! While I'm sure it can be very frustrating, in the long run it'll be very, very rewarding!
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CHINA
One Hand Clapping has a moving entry on
the current events in China and the power of one man. I've said it before: would that I had an ounce of his conviction.
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DEUCE
Wow.
Yesterday's LGF (2 July) was a doozy. I laughed, I gasped, I ohmygoded. If you didn't see it all, go back. And follow links. And adopt the phrase "the deuce" into your vocabulary.
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This sort of thing is why the Left, both domestically and internationally, is losing supporters. Decent people will have no truck with the sort who would say such things -- and even in the ranks of the Left, the decent outnumber the hairy-eyed wildmen by about ten to one.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at July 03, 2004 08:03 AM (MzH7h)
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Hmmmmm I finally got a look at the alleged ad, the web-site is entirely non existent. Smells like a case of Donald Segretti's "rat-fucking" to me. No "progressive" I know would ever think it ok to use this image by Goya as fodder for a political add. I await the images of Frank Frazetta, or HR Giger, to be used next.
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July 02, 2004
CHECK
There's nothing that makes me smile quite as big as doing our online banking and seeing
Electronic Check Tikrit as a transaction. Good to know he has access to money.
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ATMs work everywhere! Or does that mean vendors are now accepting debit cards?
Posted by: Mike at July 02, 2004 06:52 PM (PaVgz)
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Yeah ATMS work everywhere! I'm headin out to the Middle East soon and that's one of the first things I check on!
Posted by: athena at July 02, 2004 10:50 PM (/I+Yx)
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Actually, most soldiers don't have access to ATMs (as far as I understand). They were all encouraged to bring a checkbook, because there's a cash cage downrange where they write a check and get the money from the military funds. So it really is an electronic check.
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ATTRITION
As I finished the Band of Brothers series the other day, it was hard not to view the end of WWII through the lens of the war in Iraq. Germans were forced to bury the dead bodies in the concentration camp. Civilians were threatened at gunpoint; some were shot. The soldiers made it to Eagle's Nest and looted Hitler's stuff. There were so many images that I knew we could never get away with today.
Does Dick Winters feel bad about taking Nazi silverware or Lewis Nixon for drinking Hitler's booze? Does Ronald Speirs regret making a souvenir of the Nazi flag? I hope not. Did David Webster feel guilty about taking his anger out on a raving shopkeeper after liberating a concentration camp? He shouldn't have to. Should Easy Company have forced regular German citizens to clean up the concentration camp and bury the emaciated bodies? Perhaps. That's what a war of attrition requires.
Some have written lately that this war won't be won with our accommodating nature. The only way to win a war, they argue, is to kill. Or crush the enemy's spirit. We don't do that today. We drop food rations with bombs, and we apologize for Abu Ghraib while one by one our contractor's heads are being ripped off. We're too damn nice.
The fact is, we Americans do not like staring into the face of evil. It is in our progressive and optimistic nature to believe that human beings are basically good, or at least rational. When we stare into a cave of horrors, whether it is in Somalia, Beirut or Tikrit, we see a tangled morass we don't understand. Our instinct is to get out as quickly as possible.
Amritas has a wonderful post up asking many questions that don't have clean answers: Will we get our investment back? Is it worth it? If the US isn't going to take advantage of their forces in Iraq soon, why bother? Is it really 'noble' for American Soldiers to sacrifice themselves to rebuild and police another nation when they could be doing their real job: defeating the enemy? How do we win the War of Ideas?
I add another: Can the war be won while being nice?
The Germans were done. They surrendered, turned over their weapons, marched dutifully to POW camps, and accepted defeat. The war was over. Iraq is not the same game. There will be no surrender, no dutiful march, no end short of death. I don't think our society (or our media) will let us do what we need to do in order to win. We've won several battles -- al Sadr is done, sovereignty is transfered -- but we have a long way to go to win the War of Ideas, to defeat the fantasy ideology.
I have no more answers than Amritas does. I hope history shows that our blood was worth it, that Iraq, despite her many flaws, can develop into an ally and friend. I don't want to find that we should have just taken the silverware and left.
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I think one difference (at least to my limited knowledge) is that the German people supported Hitler in a way the Iraqi people do not (did not) support Saddam. (Even the Iraqi's made much of the fact that the "army" did nothing to stop our troops rolling into Baghdad.) So we weren't/aren't really at war with the people of Iraq. In some ways this all would have been much easier if we were, then we wouldn't have to play so nice.
Posted by: Beth at July 02, 2004 08:31 AM (j1526)
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Beth has a good point. More on your "nice" theme, however...
I watched a documentary about a German POW camp on PBS awhile back, that was liberated by Americans. The camp was filled with British officers, and one of them told a story at the end of the show.
He described being with an American soldier right after they had also liberated a concentration camp in the area of the town. He said there were two German guards that were being watched by this soldier while other Americans were attending to the sick and wounded in the concentration camp. The soldier asked one of the German prison guards to get water for the sick, and the German refused. The American shot him, dead. He then turned to the other German, who complied.
Do I fault that soldier? If I had seen the horror of the concentration camp, I don't know what I would have felt. Those camps were full of civilians-- just like the twin towers on 9/11. Just like the recent hostages that were beheaded.
And how would today's media have covered the WWII incident, had they been there? Would our democratic Senators be comparing our military to the SS?
It's War. When do we figure that out?
Posted by: Jack Grey at July 02, 2004 09:37 AM (3nn57)
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July 01, 2004
CARTOON
Bad guys: 1
Good guys : 0
Thanks, Michael Moore.
MORE TO GROK:
It's interesting that Bubba wrote "I resent that some will be willing to call me 'traitor' when they haven't served one fricking minute, but that is life I suppose" because my students and I were discussing that very idea last night.
We were discussing logical fallacies, and one of the examples of begging the question was "If you haven't written short stories, you shouldn't be criticizing them." I asked my active duty students if they thought that the same idea applied to soldiering was also begging the question.
They started talking about how criticism of the war doesn't really bother them, unless it's mission specific (e.g. you should have done this differently in Fallujah) and the speaker has no military background. They said that general criticism doesn't matter much to them. I then asked about the flipside: chickenhawks. They laughed and said that sometimes it's irritating to hear people be overly hooah when they don't actually have to pick up the rifle and head down there. One student said it's especially annoying to hear Congress do this. Nonetheless, they seemed to agree that this still fell under the begging the question fallacy.
In class, I preface everything I say with the general disclaimer "I've never been in the military, but from my point of view...". I don't want to be seen as one of those irritating hooah people, though I've sorta earned the right seeing as my own husband's life is at stake. And if I could click my heels together and have already been through basic training, I'd go down there in a heartbeat; the problem is the getting there. If I enlisted today, it would be a long road to war, and my schedule would not match up with my husband's. I am perfectly content to have a military family, but a dual-military family includes headaches I'm not sure I want to face. Right now there are too many couples who won't see each other for four years because of alternating deployment rotations, and I don't want to put my family in that position. Thus I remain hooah from the sidelines.
Anyway...begging the question? I don't know. My students seemed to say yes.
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It is a MOVIE, albeit a "documentary", and every documentary I've ever seen argues a view-point. I wonder what have you and the rest of the right-wing side been paying attention to? I tend to think that Coulter and Rush, and Hannity, and Savage, not to mention Krauthammer, Malkin, and everyone else of their ilk has finally managed to complete the "brainwashing" they have tried to achieve for 40 years now. I was against invading Iraq from the moment the President tried to establish the link between Saddam & Al Qaeda. Myabe it is because I lived through all of LBJ's and Nixon's lies. All I know is I have a finely tuned bullshit detector between my ears, and it was sounding alarms everytime some one from this administraion spoke. I resent that some will be willing to call me "traitor" when they haven't served one fricking minute, but that is life I suppose. Sarah I type these comments to present what I think is a rational alternative to the seemingly one-sided viewpoint you take. I know in my heart that I will probably not make any "converts" to a more "progressive" viewpoint, but I would hope I have at least expanded your horizon a little. I have left both fictitious and a real e-mail address, I leave you my address for this post as I would not mind continuing a discussion should you decide to close you comments. Any way to sum-up nice cheap shot on Moore, shame you don't blast the rightward leaning idealogues, as well as the left leaning ones.
P.S. tell your dad that this "left of center" dude, wishes him a belated happy b-day.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at July 01, 2004 09:18 PM (4pVZJ)
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Bubba:
From Dictionary.com:
Documentary:
Presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or a film.
Propaganda:
The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.
Moore can say/make what he likes-- It just needs to be called what it is: Highly Partisan Propaganda.
As for the Iraq/Al Qaeda links, if you can't see them, it's because you don't want to see them.
Posted by: Jack Grey at July 02, 2004 10:01 AM (3nn57)
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i never served in the military, but i rely on my patriotism and my history degrees to back up my excessive tendency to be all "Hooah." Still, i realize my point of view is distinctly civilian and i'll be the first to admit it. Doesn't mean i'm going to keep my opinions to myself, though.
Posted by: annika at July 02, 2004 03:13 PM (zAOEU)
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Jack Grey.. Bad, bad, bad form, leaving these out:
1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents.
pl. A work, such as a film or television program, presenting political, social, or historical subject matter in a factual and informative manner and often consisting of actual news films or interviews accompanied by narration.
In my view it's a documentary with an emphasis on op-ed. If this warrants a new label, fine.
John Grierson, the one who coined the term 'documentary', describes it as a "creative treament of reality". This is somewhat vague to me, so I'll add this
discussion about the nature of documentaries.
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Concerning the cartoon: taking it seriously is disgraceful (although I believe Sarah meant it as a joke); it's guilt by association. You could do exactly the same using Yasser Arafat in a cartoon about
the Passion of the Christ. Or putting Hitler images in between angry Democrats (see
Coalition of the Wild-eyed).
Posted by: Sander at July 02, 2004 03:18 PM (3nJmx)
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Sander-
Sorry. "1. Consisting of, concerning, or based on documents." As in "I hold in my hand documentary evidence". Not the same thing. the pl you pasted appears after both usages of the word, and the definiton I used actually includes the word FILM in it. I didn't use the Catholic Church example in "propaganda", you want to pick nits over that?
The point remains that taking things out of context and telling half-truths is not what a documentary is "supposed" to be. See "The Thin Blue Line" for an example of an actual theatrical documentary. Of course, you probably (along with Hollywood) think "Bowling for Columbine" is a documentary... so I see no point in arguing it with you.
Let's just call "The Coalition of the Wild-eyed" a documentary on the state of the Democratic Party. That seems more than fair.
Posted by: Jack Grey at July 02, 2004 04:22 PM (3nn57)
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Yeah, sure, you of course know exactly what I'm like, just because I brought up a point you didn't from sources you quoted from. But if you won't debate me, hey, the echo chamber's always available.
PS I'm snarky because I don't see what's so overly liberal about my post.
Posted by: Sander at July 02, 2004 05:24 PM (3nJmx)
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LIFE
Real Life struck today. I attended a three hour briefing on Pell grants, the head boss visited from Heidelberg, I wrote a quiz for class tonight on the sly while the boss wasn't looking, and now it's time to shovel the food in my mouth and head to class. No time for love, Dr. Jones.
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Don't forget to schedule days for yourself too, I use my wednesdays to break up ruts/cycles.
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