March 18, 2004
A PRIORI
I still can't get over the fact that I know
people who think that Bush has Bin Ladin and his going to pull a big TA-DA right before the election. This shocks me, and I think this morning I figured out why.
I operate on a daily basis on the a priori assumption that people are inherently honest and good. I assume that the people I meet are decent upstanding human beings, faithful to their spouses and honest in their jobs. I operate under that assumption until proven otherwise. I also assume that people naturally want what's good for them personally, what's good for others, and what's good for their country. I assume that, because that's the way I behave myself.
So when I read something like this, where people are constantly rehashing the idea that Bush lied and that he'll stop at nothing to stay in power, I can't believe it's true. I can't believe someone wrote this
He's also the first president to pre-emtively, unilaterally and illegally attack another country. I put NOTHING past these people and I mean NOTHING, including murder. If he's still down in the polls in Sept./ Oct.......we will see a terrorist attack and elections will be canceled and martial law declared. No doubt in my mind. These people are capable of anything.
because I do not operate under the a priori assumption that someone would resort to murder to get what he wants. I can't even fathom it.
I believed President Clinton when he said that he had not had relations with that woman. I believed him because I assume that people tell the truth. Naive? Perhaps, but shouldn't we assume that, for pete's sake? I believed him over all the rumors because I wanted to believe in the inherent goodness of the Presidency. I was wrong, I guess. And if Kerry were President, I would want to believe that he would tell the truth too. I might not be voting for him, but I would hope that he turned out to be worthy of our respect. I want to believe that others are trustworthy and good.
But it appears others don't.
How many times have we seen President Bush get the benefit of the doubt? With AWOL? With his Thanksgiving trip? With WMDs? With anything at all? People hated him from day one, and they've never even listened to what the man has to say. They a priori call him a liar. Geez, they even say he's going to resort to martial law if he's down in the polls in October! I can't understand that.
I re-read today QandO's Justification: A Post-War Review. It's so obvious to me that no one lied, that no one unilaterally did anything, and that no one should've been shocked that this was coming. It was justified. Period.
But people are blinded by their a priori assumption that Bush is Hitler.
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In my mind, that's the chief difference between Republicans and Democrats, which is why military folks are mostly conservative.
Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2004 03:58 PM (YyIUS)
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That is the chief difference bewtween conservatives and liberals. Liberalism is based on victimhood and mistrust. They don't even trust people to feed themselves, for God's sake. Liberals find it impossible to believe other people are inherently good. In their minds, they are saints and everyone else are money-grubbing lunatics who can't be trusted with a tablespoon, much less a gun. Very, very, VERY deep down, they know they are doing this, and it makes them self-consious. This can explain just about every liberal policy you can think of.
Posted by: Taron W at March 18, 2004 04:10 PM (s915e)
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Great post, even if it is depressing. I don't have much to add.
However, I just want to point out how hilarious it is watching DU try to reconcile the "Bush went to war unilaterally" meme with the "Spain was attacked because they sent troops to Iraq" meme. They're so pathetic.
Posted by: CD at March 18, 2004 08:24 PM (23BBG)
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I think that the reason DU and MoveOn and such, and also the broader left, is so rife with conspiracy theories is that
that is the way they'd do it if they were in power.
Most of it is just people projecting their own failures on what they see as the enemy. Look at Kerry's accusations towards Bush of running an attack campaign - when Bush has been extremely reserved and Kerry and the other Ds have been on the attack from day one.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 18, 2004 08:53 PM (+S1Ft)
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Well said! I too take people at face value, and believe the best in them until proven otherwise. I can't imagine being any other way. How horrible it must be to see shadows every where you look.
Posted by: Tammi at March 18, 2004 09:26 PM (hT9/F)
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I hope this guy was just smoking crack when he wrote this and is not really this naive.
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TOILET
The husband emailed today.
He was happy; he used a flush toilet for the first time since leaving Germany.
Ah, the simple things in life.
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March 17, 2004
FACTS
1. Today the temperature outside was 63 degrees.
2. The heater in our house is still on full blast.
3. I finally finished my sweater.
4. Taking a photo of yourself is really hard.
5. This photo is too blurry, but it was the best I could do.
6. I'm absolutely roasting now...
7. I want to wear the sweater tomorrow, but it's so freakin' warm.

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Well, it certainly looks toasty warm.
Posted by: homebru at March 17, 2004 06:49 PM (jy9n4)
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Aye, but I got my Irish sweater and cap on! (But I usually do anyway...heh.) And it even snowed today! (Chicago) Unfortunately, I was so worn down by my seminar paper that I didn't go see them turn the Chicago River green this weekend, even though I was only two blocks away at one point. Nice pic.
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The sweater looks great and the picture turned out well. I forgot...you're a perfectionist.
Posted by: Mike at March 17, 2004 09:57 PM (3t8Bu)
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POKER
I love my brother to death. He's always good for an entertaining story or a little excitement. I called him last night and spent a whirlwind ten minutes hearing about his recent trip to Vegas.
My brother is a gambler. A good one. He paid for his senior year of college by playing poker; he developed a reputation at his school until no one would play him after a while. So he had to go online; he plays Texas Hold 'Em night and day. My mom is less than thrilled that her son's part-time job is online gaming, but she's trying to deal with it. I was leery until I watched him play over Christmas: he plays three hands at a time and is able to keep track of all the cards and bring in the money. It's damn impressive, I must say, though the miser in me fears it could all go terribly wrong someday.
He had never been to Vegas before, so he and some friends went down for Spring Break. He went smart, though: he took a set amount of cash and left the ATM card at home. And my brother, balls of brass, walked into the Bellagio, sauntered up to the $200 minimum table, and played his heart out. He was up a lot, he was down a little, he told a great story of his 3 kings getting beat by 3 aces and missing out on a $1200 pot, and the thrill of his life was earning the respect of the other players at the table.
He also got to meet and get his photo taken with such poker greats as Doyle Brunson and Johnny Chan. I wouldn't recognize these men if they knocked on my door, but my brother couldn't have sounded more thrilled. I told him to write all this up in a letter to send to my husband because it's a great story. He brought a huge smile to my face and then hurried me off the phone because he was on the way to a job interview to work for an online gaming company.
He's a trip; I love him to pieces.
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I hope to see the Brother Grok on the World Series of Poker some day, it's only a $10,000 entry fee......
Heh, I know who Johnny Chan is!
Posted by: Blueshift at March 17, 2004 05:46 AM (crTpS)
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I'm an avid watcher of the World Poker Tour on the travel Channel. The announcers are complete putzes but the action is fun to watch. Almost weel=kly they have some player on who got to the finals after entering some $10 tournament and walks a way with $100k. so anything is possible.
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LGF
Little Green Footballs is chock full of good stuff today and yesterday. Go over there and just keep scrolling.
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ROUND-UP
There's a lot of buzz out there about Spain; I found tons of interesting things via The Best. I don't have the time before work to comment on everything individually, but I recommend that you read all of these:
The Spanish dishonoured their dead by Mark Steyn
an open letter to Jose Blanco by Al Maviva
Subspace Crystal Ball and The Stampede Begins over at The Best. And follow the footnotes.
Annika's posts 1, 2, and 3.
But there is one thing that I want to comment on in depth. Tim pointed out a WaPo article that unfortunately you have to register for, but it's worth the time doing so to read it. It's called Madrid Bombs Shook Voters: Distrust of the Government, Anger at U.S. Fueled Upset. It contains a little anecdote that nearly sent me through the roof:
Many here contend Aznar has adopted a servile stance toward the United States. In contrast, Socialist party leader Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero stressed his independence and willingness to criticize Washington. Many approvingly cited an incident during last October's Columbus Day military parade when Zapatero sat down as the American flag passed by. "It's not my flag," he reportedly said later.
You bastard. That speaks volumes to me about what kind of man Zapatero is. I knew a girl like that in high school, a girl whose family had dual Brazilian-Scottish citizenship but was living in the USA, never intending to become American. Yet they'd gripe and moan about the government, and this girl would talk and be rude during the National Anthem at sporting events. I've never forgotten or forgiven that. You show respect for someone's country during ceremonies, regardless of how you feel. There's a time for public disagreement, and there's a time for ceremony and respect. A Columbus parade is not the proper time for a political figure to point out how much he hates the US.
Here in Germany, we fly the German flag over our post. And at ceremonies, we stand in reverence for the German flag and national anthem. Does it burn me up inside that we have to do this for them when they don't support us in anything except spending our dollars in their economy? Yes, but I stand quietly while their flag is being raised. Because that's good manners and common courtesy.
But if Zapatero thinks he should make a political statement during a public ceremony like that, then I have no respect for him at all.
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March 16, 2004
SKILLS
Today I noticed that I had a good number of hits from the comments section of an LGF post. Curious, I checked it out. Seems Amritas has
called on my Swedish language skills to investigate how the explosives that detonated in Madrid came from Sweden.
Hur säger man "bring it on" på svenska?
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WTF?
This has to be a joke, right John? Frank J made it up, right? Holy crap, it's true? Anyone here who thinks that Bush hatred is not something to worry about needs to read
this post on RWN today. John found an extremely frightening thread on the DU. The intro:
As weÂ’ve heard again and again recently, if we are going to beat this bunch of rule breaking GOP misanthropes, weÂ’re going to have to start fighting as dirty as they do. I started this thread for one reason, to get everyoneÂ’s ideas on a list of things we as Democrats can consider to stop the takeover of this country. This isnÂ’t going to be a thread for the squeamish, or for the ideologically pure. Best to steer clear if that describes you.
Now we've already heard people like Moby say that lying is OK if it will help Kerry win. But these DUers lay it all out, provide strategy, and pat each other on the back when they come up with a new way to lie. I think my jaw dropped to the floor as I read these comments. I can't believe these are real people.
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Heh, DU is funny. Don't take them to seriously, the tactics they describe are the antics of adults (?) who never matured past gradeschool.
Anyone who is capable of thinking critically would see right through this bunk they are espousing. Dem or Rep.
Posted by: Blueshift at March 16, 2004 06:08 AM (crTpS)
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They're not real people.
I've spoken (well, online) to some such. As far as I can tell, they're just random assemblies of poorly-coded Perl scripts. Sometimes you even see the error messages.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 16, 2004 09:27 AM (+S1Ft)
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Don't take them or their proposals so lightly. Keep in mind how what seem to be left-wing tinfoil-hat black helicopter conspiracy theories keep showing up
in the mouths of prominent Democrat leaders! Dean with his "Bush knew" about 9/11 in advance. Ted Kennedy with his "Bush concocted a war" in the name of Halliburton. Even Algore with "he betraaaaaayed this country!" rant... all showed up on DU first. They ARE the core of the party these days.
Posted by: CavalierX at March 16, 2004 04:26 PM (R9DSb)
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I think they have something like 40,000 registered users. Of course, most of those have probably been banned.
Posted by: CD at March 16, 2004 11:42 PM (23BBG)
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The site is already down. Mommy came into the room and saw what her twentysomething loser son was up to and put a stop to it.
Come on, libs are not exactly known for their ability to get in someones face, much less kick their butt. Its not their forte....hard to throw a girly punch (no offense meant) with one hand on a latte and the other holding a book about Marx.
Posted by: RIGGS at March 17, 2004 01:17 AM (/C4+p)
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Aren't we already fighting a group that condones lying to the "infidels" if it furthers their causes?!?
Posted by: Lyana at March 17, 2004 11:15 AM (HONLN)
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PLASTIC
Greyhawk's story about Laura Bush's surprise visit to Army spouses at Fort Hood made me laugh as I had one thought: Did she bring a plastic turkey?
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BOB ZANGAS
I've tried to stay very detached from the deaths in Iraq, because it's easier to deal with if your
fences are nice and strong. But this morning I weep.
Kathy pointed out that a milblogger has died in Iraq. His is not a blog I've ever read before, but I went to read his final entry today. And I flat-out wept as I read it. One of the things he said should be highlighted:
I know it is not my money that I am giving away and I am not interested in receiving thanks. But it points out to the fact that this is a society that is in desperate need of everything. It is like pouring a cup of water out in a dry desert. The water disappears and you are left with the feeling of “did it do any good?” Sometimes the answer is “yes.” Sometimes the answer is “no.” Sometimes you wait for the flower to grow. I don’t mean to sound depressed because I am not. I am enjoying this work immensely. It is very gratifying…as long as the flowers grow eventually. I have hope that they will.
He ended his entry with a simple closing, one that breaks my heart to read today:
Hang on to your dreams!
Bob
Smash suggests we pay our respects. I think that's a good idea. And, Bob...we'll make sure the flowers continue to grow.
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Sarah, I, too, cried as I read about Bob Zangas. It is amazing how our paths cross in this world. Bob Zangas was from Level Green/Trafford, Pa., the small community where we lived for a couple of years. I know that community will do their best to honor Bob Zangas'memory. The people that live there are some of the finest people I have ever met, and I know that firsthand. They were kind, generous and caring when we lived there; I know they haven't changed. My prayers go out to Bob Zangas' family.
Posted by: Nancy at March 16, 2004 05:40 AM (boDJK)
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I wept also. His last entry was such a beautiful expression of who he was. My prayers go to his family and friends as well as all those still in Iraq.
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GO, AL
I told my mom last night about how Oda Mae's vote is going to cancel out
my co-worker's vote in the November election, and apparently my mom is going to be doing some cancelling-out of her own. Today is the Illinois primary, where my mother will be voting Al Sharpton. Hysterical. If Democrats wanna play anyone-but-Bush, then my mama will give them a taste of anyone-but-Kerry. What a little saboteur...
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In our Texas primary I went to vote and they asked me which party. I told them "Libertarian," and they just looked at me funny. So, I took a Republican ballot. Afterwards, I wished I had taken the Democratic ballot just to be able to vote for Al.
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March 15, 2004
TORTURE
As I was watching
Not Without My Anus tonight over a delicious meat dinner, I had a funny thought: wouldn't it be grand if we could torture Saddam Hussein by making him watch all of the South Parks starring him over and over on a loop?
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NO DVDS FOR KERRY
I was thinking about the annoying conversation between my
co-workers as I was cooking my delicious
cow-on-a-bun for dinner. I keep my mouth shut all the time at work. Despite the fact that we're on a freakin' military post and people around here should value and respect the USA, I never talk about politics or things that I think aren't good office talk. I respect my German co-worker and don't want to make a fuss. But do they even consider for a moment that maybe I'm not turning cartwheels at the thought of John Kerry? Nope. Completely unprovoked, out of the stinkin' blue, my officemate says, "Do you think Bush already has Bin Ladin?" Immediately, without taking a breath, I answered with a firm "no." To which the other officemate supplied a "yes." I looked at both of them and said, "You can't really be serious?" and they said that they were, that they
had heard that this might be true. They
heard it, like it's on the same level as rumors about whether Johnny made out with Susie over the weekend or whether we're getting a Subway in the old Bookmark building here on post. I looked at the American co-worker and said, "Do you really have such little faith in your own government?" and he said, "I do if Bush is in charge." And that was the end of the conversation.
I have never brought up politics in our office, and I've made it a point not to say anything unless asked a direct question, but they have to be warming up to the idea that I'm not a Bush-hater. I already know that they are both extreme Bush-haters; in fact, my one co-worker who is a German with American citizenship through marriage, and who has never lived in the US, is going to register to vote for her very first time ever just so she can vote against Bush. (That really pisses me off.) I am just waiting for the day that someone asks me outright who I'm voting for.
So while I was cooking my beef, I started thinking about how many DVDs you'd have to offer me to vote for Kerry. The number is much much higher than how many I'd give to talk to my husband. I can safely say that if someone offered me $100 to vote for Kerry this year, I would turn it down. So I raised the bar in my mind: would I take $1000 to vote for Kerry? In my janky little part-time job, I make roughly $1000 per month (oh god that's ridiculous for someone with a Masters Degree.) Would I give up the chance for an extra month's pay to vote Kerry? You bet your sweet bippy. I would sacrifice one month's pay to have an extra four years of President Bush instead of Kerry.
Wait til my co-workers hear that one.
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Don't worry, Sarah, I'm registering for the first time to vote in a Presidential election so I can vote for BUSH!! I'll cancel her out for you.
Posted by: Oda Mae at March 15, 2004 05:07 PM (Wdo4K)
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About ten trillion dollars is right, I think. Then you could do the job that Kerry won't.
Or buy a
lot of DVDs...
Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 15, 2004 09:10 PM (+S1Ft)
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I'm reminded by something my cranky but sharp as a tack granny always said--- you can respect other people's opinions without giving up your own dignity. Seems to me that there's little commednable in biting back your tongue for the sake of making nice in a public environement (i.e. work). Politics is a public realm as it is, voicing your opinion among the opinions of others is what politics is all about. If other people invade your space by making assumptions and assume alliances that aren't there and you don't call them up on it, you've only yourself to blame. It isn't their fault that you don't say your piece and go home fuming. It's yours. The key is to be both respectful of them and yourself. You do yourself a grave disservice by keeping silent. Speak up.
Posted by: Crystal at March 15, 2004 09:35 PM (s6c4t)
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Crystal, that's beautiful.
Oh, and, Sarah, 1,000 bucks?! Go for it! If that's what it takes, we'll chip in!
Posted by: Tuning Spork at March 16, 2004 12:38 AM (PucHz)
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I'd give up a years pay, if not more.
Also, I've convinced two co-workers, as well as a childhood friend, all whom have never voted, to register this year.
I hope they vote for Bush, and I talk to them about politics when they ask, but they haven't said who they'd vote for.
Posted by: Blueshift at March 16, 2004 05:51 AM (crTpS)
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You want to get your point across without having to say an actual word? Just show your co-workers
this advertisement. They'll be shocked.
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GULAG
I have some closing thoughts on the end of The Gulag Archipelago. I have finished Book I, and I think I need to move on to something a little cheerier for a while before I tackle Book II. But I'll be back.
Overall, I agree with Bunker that it's a book that should be read. I considered myself a pretty good student in school, and I never heard anything about the atrocities committed in Stalin's Russia. And I even took a Russian literature class in college! This stuff was horrifying, and I wish more people were aware of just what happened during those "glorious" Communist years.
If one takes the view that Latsis is not deliberately understating the real figures but simply lacks complete information, and that the Revtribunals carried on approximately the same amount of judicial work as the Cheka performed in an extrajudicial way, one concluded that in the twenty central provinces of Russia in a period of sixteen months (June, 1918 to October, 1919) more than sixteen thousand persons were shot, which is to say more than one thousand a month.
This passage is highlighted with a revealing footnote:
Now that we have started to make comparisons, here is another: during the eighty years of the Inquisition's peak effort (1420 to 149
, in all of Spain ten thousand persons were condemned to be burned to death at the stake -- in other words, about ten a month.
People were put to death for as little as shaking a fist at a Communist, or as vague as "wrecking", the simple charge of doing anything that might hurt the Soviet Union. And anything could be twisted into wrecking. An engineer suggests that they could research a way to save fuel: wrecking -- reducing resources. They would increase the size of train cars to make them more efficient: wrecking -- tying up funds. Suggesting that they buy cheap train cars now and then replace them later when the technology is better: wrecking -- suggesting the Soviet Union not have the best type of machinery. And so on. And all these charges of wrecking, twisted around no matter what you did or said, brought you a death sentence. Unbelieveable.
There was a great anecdote at the end of the book that made me laugh out loud. There are some who will just never grok when someone stands up for what he believes in:
When, in 1960, Gennady Smelov, a nonpolitical offender, declared a lengthy hunger strike in the Leningrad prison, the prosecutor went to his cell for some reason (perhaps he was making his regular rounds) and asked him: "Why are you torturing yourself?"
And Smelov replied: "Justice is more precious to me than life."
This phrase so astonished the prosecutor with its irrelevance that the very next day Smelov was taken to Leningrad Special Hospital (i.e., the insane asylum) for prisoners. And the doctor there told him:
"We suspect you may be a schizophrenic."
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Volume II can wait. The essence of the story of the USSR is in the first. There are significant parallels to the kind of society that the Islamicists envision. The Cold War is in a different phase, with a different enemy, and is a bit hotter.
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CAV
I've been too busy to read CavX for the past few days, and it seems I've
missed out. He always picks up on the nuances that I miss:
Wait a second... am I missing something here? Everyone's concerned that al-Qaeda may be behind the attack on Spain because they're angry that Spain was our ally in Iraq? I thought that the Liberals and other anti-liberation groups have been insisting for a year that al-Qaeda may have been in Afghanistan, but had nothing to do with Iraq. Why are they suddenly concerned that al-Qaeda committed an act of terrorism in Spain because of its involvement in Iraq, without mentioning Afghanistan? According to Liberal doctrine, Osama bin Laden hated Saddam and wanted him removed for ideological reasons.
Holy crap, he's right. And these are the people who accuse our President of twisting facts around to fit his cause...
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Alas, yes, I was going to write a similar entry in my weblog, but work has me down--I kept saying 5:00! 5:00 (due date for paper)! Heh, oh well.

Good find, though. Back to copyright law.
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GRRR
Already not a good morning. So far I've had to listen to my two co-workers talk about how President Bush has Bin Ladin already and is going to bust him out right in time for the election. Then I had to take a Sexual Harrassment test for my new job that really irritated me. All I had to do though was answer the exact opposite of my own personal feelings and I ended up with 100% correct. Grrr.
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My mother does sexual harassment training for businesses, and I alway freak her out by telling her a dirty joke I said I told to my female boss.
I also freak her out by saying that I call by boss "baby". It's fun to watch her squirm.
Posted by: Tom at March 15, 2004 10:31 AM (+1ZQW)
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I used to administer psychological tests to people that handled money for a company I worked for. I got to the point where I could look at at the test before submitting it for scoring and tell whether the applicant would "pass" or "fail". I figured out that you need to answer the questions in a way that the company would like you to answer them, whether that is the way you would truly answer or not. Therefore, I never take a pre-employment psycholigical test for anyone - too easy to beat.
I can't imagine what a stupid sexual harassment test would consist of... mainly gobbledy-gook?
Posted by: The Bartender at March 15, 2004 03:53 PM (nr5xk)
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The last comment was me in another life...
Just a little humor:
It's not harassment, if they like it!
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MEAT
Before I forget to remind everyone, it's International Eat An Animal For PETA Day.
Michelle is pushing this through, which is hysterical; I can't decide what to make for dinner yet...

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Damn...I brought a tuna sandwich today.
Posted by: Mike at March 15, 2004 08:14 AM (cFRpq)
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s'ok Mike, pretend it was caught with dolphin-unsafe nets
Posted by: Ted at March 15, 2004 08:30 AM (blNMI)
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A nice juicy T-Bone. MMMMMMMMMMMMM!
Posted by: MargeinMI at March 15, 2004 09:16 AM (CWrqF)
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I remember when JFKumkwat came to Philly and orderd a cheesesteak with swiss cheese. WTF??
Every self respecting Philadelphian knows that you eat a cheesesteak with Cheez-Whiz, and maybe provolone if you don't got cheez-whiz.
Stupid french looking 8 foot tall freak.
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SPAIN
I had other things I wanted to write about this morning, but then I saw the results of voting in Spain. Via LGF I went over to
Daily Kos and found
this:
While I very much agree with Meteor Blades, that Stirling is providing the best stuff on the web about Madrid, I do disagree that this is a potential pattern for the U.S. In Spain, 90% of the populace opposed the war in Iraq as they, like the majority of Europeans, thought it would increase terrorism not decrease it, and the bombings confirmed this interpretation. In the US, alas, the majority still see Iraq as part of the war on terror and if a similar event happenened before the US election - god forbid - I think the response would be just the opposite, the need to intensify the fight and rally around the flag and vote Bush. Look what happened to Dean when he told the truth about Saddam's arrest not making America safer.
This commenter sees this as a bad thing, but I see it as the fundamental difference between Europe and America. Europe believes in appeasement and collectivist internationalism; the US believes in kicking ass and taking names. The Lefties at Daily Kos and many people my age are horrified by the US's "get 'er done" attitude, but I see it as the only way this fight will ever end.
I'm saddened to see one of our strong allies disappear. I'm sad that if they leave us out to dry in Iraq, I won't be visiting their country, and I'm a huge fan of southern Spain. But Spaniards have shown their priorities, and they don't jive with mine. Though, as Belmont Club said today, "Although many commentators have excoriated the Spanish electorate for its capitulation to terror, we must never forget that the slightly smaller half decisively rejected it. These we honor and the rest we pity."
Any future-Americans among that slightly smaller half?
MORE TO GROK:
Read Nelson Ascher.
And Porphyrogenitus and I have a cyclical back-patting going on. He's right, if I may paraphrase, that some Americans grok 3/11 like some Europeans grokked 9/11, but the vast majority just don't care.
Tom reminds us that this is what the electoral college is for.
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though i am from belgium, i don't support the "french" stance of our government at all. however, regarding spain, i think one of the reasons for the defeat of aznar is that he tried to hide the truth about the authors of the attacks of 3/11. he tried to put the blame on the basque terrorist, while everything pointed to islamist terrorists. thus he tried to exploit this tragedy for his own objectives byt telling lies. i can understand some people are scandalized by such behaviour.
Posted by: jan (belgium) at March 15, 2004 05:54 AM (rDiDF)
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Regardless of who is responsible, the vote gives support to those who believe attacks will get countries to pull troops. I think we'll see more of this, now.
Poland is the one country they should think twice about hitting. The Poles are the kind who, when hit, strike back harder than before.
Posted by: Mike at March 15, 2004 08:12 AM (cFRpq)
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i agree with you mike (allthough i wouldn't underestimate the brits either). further i thoroughly disagree with the cowardly belgian government, but i do so on most points. not that our military would have made the difference. just look at our minister of defence.
www.klm-mra.be/vizier/Vizier8/Frans/Foto/Flahaut.jpg
Posted by: jan (belgium) at March 15, 2004 08:50 AM (rDiDF)
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>everything pointed to islamist terrorists
No, it didn't, and Aznar was "punished" for not jumping to conclusions. The explosive used was the same type used by Eta in earlier bombings, as was the "remote control" method instead of the suicide type. Eta operatives are trained in Lebanon and Iran. Three Eta operatives were apprehended at around Christmastime
on a train with (drum roll please) a backpack full of the same explosive. The miltiple coordinated attack, however,
is pure al-Qaeda.
All signs actually point to a cooperative venture.
The black hats ride together, people.
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