December 21, 2004
HAVE YOURSELF A HOOAH CHRISTMAS
The
1ID website has got the only holiday video you'll see that contains both toy distribution and explosions. Check it out.
I am leaving to take two friends to the airport, so I'll be out of blogging range for two days. More when I return.
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Wow! Great site and video - Thanks for the link :-)
Posted by: Barb at December 24, 2004 12:39 PM (g9qHI)
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December 20, 2004
AGENDA
Tonight I watched
The Day After Tomorrow. The social agenda in that movie was almost as bad as
Superman IV.
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My GF watched it because her father had rented it. I asked if it was worth seeing, she told me I had better not because it would only piss me off.
She knows me rather well.
Posted by: John at December 21, 2004 12:56 AM (crTpS)
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The Blonde Chick and the Young Men rented it and watched it a couple of weeks ago. I came in late and was asking questions about all of the things that made no sense. I gave up and left them to it. BC said later that it was stupid, but it had been a good choice for a scary thrill on that night when a windy cold front blew in.
Posted by: Cerberus at December 21, 2004 05:15 AM (nzIoS)
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HE IS JOHN GALT
I had a thought the other night that would probably make Den Beste cringe, but I realized that I'm glad that he shrugged. He started writing because it made him happy. He got noticed, and more and more people tried to control him. Write about what I want to hear. Make sure you include this angle. No, you're wrong about this minor detail. Maybe if you read Ayn Rand you'd understand. And so on and so on. He started carrying the world on his shoulders, getting more and more burdened by pedantic mail and impossible demands. And finally he shrugged.
Who is John Galt? Den Beste is.
And all of a sudden, now that I think of it that way, it's easier to bear his absence. I'm happy for him, now that the weight has been lifted from his shoulders. I'm happy that he's let go and stopped letting the looters rule his blog. I'm happy for him, and it makes missing him easier.
But now I'm worried about him because he's sick.
(And, yes, I'm relating everything in my life to this book right now. Sue me.)
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He's local here in San Diego, and he quit because he hated the criticism, as one would. The other side of the coin is that he was wrong about a lot of things. Clearly he's an intelligent man, but a self-taught academic where national security policy is concerned. His opinions tended to lack the cachet of real experience.
If one is going to traffic in ideas, one had better be prepared to defend and modify them as necessary.
Posted by: Casca at December 21, 2004 12:52 AM (cdv3B)
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It's amazing to see all the successes among SDB's sidebar/sidebar alumni. Even more than isolated instalanches, a listing on the SDB sidebar assured (assures?) that a blog will be visited. SDB midwifed entire communities of bloggers and readers.
Far more important than "experience" is the ability to think clearly. If you have that, then experience is great, but if you don't have that--which 99.9% of government workers and academics don't--then experience gets you nowhere. You eat sleep piss defecate fornicate in the same old rut.
SDB thinks clearly. Is he always right? No. But only a coward or a newborn is totally innocent. And I've seen a lot of newborns that I suspect, from their sinister grimaces and suggestive burps.
But following SDB's thought processes is a joy, and provides rewards.
When the envious Casca retires will he be missed? Sorry. :-)
Posted by: Rene at December 21, 2004 01:47 PM (3Gxq7)
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If the object is generating hits, then by all means spout kant. I prefer clarity of thought based in reality, not fantasy.
Posted by: Casca at December 22, 2004 04:39 PM (cdv3B)
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"I prefer clarity of thought based in reality, not fantasy."
What an odd thing for him to say. I wonder if he appreciates the irony?
Posted by: Blythe at December 22, 2004 04:52 PM (KGBmM)
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Casca:
Which of his views on national security policy sbould Mr. Den Beste modify? What were the many things he got wrong?
Posted by: Matthew Goggins at December 22, 2004 04:54 PM (OSvpn)
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Glenn Reynolds (Prof. Instapundit) linked to Steven Den Beste's greatest hits page:
http://denbeste.nu/bestof.shtml
The page lists, with links, 64 of the best essays that SDB wrote.
Posted by: Matthew Goggins at December 23, 2004 11:52 AM (OSvpn)
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Casca, in re-reading your comments, I can't help noticing a mean-spirited attitude:
Clearly he's an intelligent man, but a self-taught academic where national security policy is concerned. His opinions tended to lack the cachet of real experience.
If the object is generating hits, then by all means spout kant. I prefer clarity of thought based in reality, not fantasy.
Are you snarky because you disagree with him, or is there something more driving your distaste (e.g. he ran over your dog once, or you were in a bar-brawl with him)?
Posted by: Matthew Goggins at December 23, 2004 12:09 PM (OSvpn)
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DIVORCE
The husband and I have to get divorced. That's all there is to it. What else am I supposed to do after this exchange?
Sarah: everyone keeps telling me that now that I have vacation, I should go home
Sarah: but I cant go home without you
Sarah: we're a team
husband: yes ma'am
husband: team america, fuck yeah
Sarah: ha
Sarah: have you seen it yet?
husband: yes ma'am
Sarah: was it funny?
husband: yes ma'am
Sarah: dang
He left me behind! You never leave a man behind...especially not on the way to a Parker/Stone movie.
(I'm just kidding. He's trying to find a way to get me a copy, but they're sold out.)
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Whew, I thought your husband would reveal that he hated Team America!
Team America is easier to see in Iraq than in Germany? Who would've guessed?
Hey, at least you could have seen Christmas with the Kranks. Bwahaha.
Posted by: Amritas at December 20, 2004 06:23 PM (Is/K9)
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Notice the politeness? he is just lining you up for kids and future surprises.
Posted by: wanderer at December 20, 2004 11:15 PM (3ULfT)
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"Ma'am" is my favorite nickname.
Posted by: Sarah at December 21, 2004 03:22 AM (IEVeV)
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You will love it! i missed so many jokes from laughing, i need to see it again.
Posted by: annika at December 21, 2004 06:15 PM (zAOEU)
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December 19, 2004
THEY PUSH AND THEY PUSH
I remember reading some blogger note how ironic it is that Americans write comments on Iraqi blogs trying to tell Iraqis what Iraq is like. Apparently it's gotten the best of Ali, and he's
hanging it up. Thanks a lot, folks.
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What about everyone in the world who tries to tell Americans, and everyone else, what America is like?
I realize it can get ugly, especially when certain Americans try to discredit Iraqi bloggers as 'real' Iraqis because the American is contradicted. If that's the reason for Ali pulling stakes, then I don't know what any of us can do about that. How can we talk if we can't put our opinions in the open?
Posted by: Eric at December 20, 2004 01:24 AM (FcnMj)
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I think/ hope Ali will blog again once Omar and Mohammed come back. Thier trip here will inspire their brother, I hope.
It's too bad that he is cutting off the people who support him because of the words of those who are fighting against him.
Posted by: Sean at December 20, 2004 02:20 PM (qw3zg)
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CAN I CALL A DUDE'S SITE "PRETTY"?
Look at Bunker's new style for the
holiday season! I like it.
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Thanks! After a couple of hours of trying different red/green combinations, I opted for the wintry stuff. As long as I don't have to live in it.
Posted by: Mike at December 19, 2004 09:33 PM (b7AUG)
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DEBT PAID
Until
Amritas put me on the spot, I didn't know the full details of
Charles Jenkins' desertion. (Remember he's the guy who was in North Korea for almost forty years and just turned himself in.) When I first heard the gist of the story, I thought he was despicable, but now I believe he's paid the price for his choice.
Jenkins' unit, he had learned, was scheduled to ship out soon to the live war in Vietnam, a prospect that terrified him. "I did not want to be responsible for the lives of other soldiers under me," he said during his court-martial trial last month. So Jenkins looked for a way out. He could confess his cowardice to superiors and accept the consequences or attempt somehow to flee. He chose the latter option.
He should have chosen the former. When you sign up for the military, you'd better be prepared for the worst assignment possible in exchange for that precious GI Bill. You don't get to pick and choose with the military -- as Paredes and Hinzman believe they can -- so if you break that contract you signed, you go to jail. You don't try to flee. That said, Jenkins paid dearly for his error in judgement, working as a slave to the North Korean government for 40 years, and turned himself in willingly at the first chance he could find.
He would plead guilty only to desertion and aiding the enemy (for the time he spent teaching English). In exchange, his penalty would be a maximum 30 days' confinement, a demotion to private, forfeiture of all pay and benefits and a dishonorable discharge. Military-law experts assume Jenkins won this relatively lenient treatment in exchange for providing intelligence about North Korean spy programs. Neither Jenkins nor the U.S. government will comment on any such discussions.
Jenkins has paid his debt to the military and to society, and he has likely suffered far more than if he'd stayed in the Army a few more years. His slate is clean in my book. Hinzman, on the other hand, has far more 'splainin' to do.
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"He was young.. he did something dumb. The consequences were pretty severe.... I'd agree he's been punished far worse then our system of justice would have handled him. He didn't go to the media or the Anti-war left (Perhaps he knows something about them he imparted to the government).. he cooperated and to his lumps (he still gets the dishonerable discharge I noted) abeit not that hard.
I'd also say he'd paid his debt to soceity.. anything else is between him and whatever god he believes in.
Posted by: LarryConley at December 19, 2004 04:12 AM (y5h4n)
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Rodger Young had a similar predicament. His hearing was going and as an NCO he realized that he might endanger those he was in command of. He didn't want to be responsible for the lives of those was in command of under those circumstances.
He chose a different way. Rather than desert his country and his comrades, and rather than turn to his country's enemies for help in the matter he requested, and was granted, a demotion to private.
He died saving his unit from a machine gun emplacement. After being wounded several times he continued to crawl towards the emplacement, taking it out and saving his unit.
I'd say something along that lines would have impressed me; Jenkins betrayal (not simple desertion since he defected to an enemy nation) of his country was simply despicable since he failed to try any other options and chose to run into the arms of America's enemy rather than find a way to serve his country and address his fears.
He did finally pay his debt to his country, though it took him decades to decide to do it. As I recall, there was no question of him paying that debt until the US made an issue of it, and originally it seemed he might have gotten treatment in Japan and gone back to Korea. So I'm not impressed that he might have chosen that course. I believe he simply got caught and was forced to face the music for his own heinous acts. Now if only the US would show the same dedication towards today's deserters in Canada.
"Shines the name, shines the name of Rodger Young."
Kalroy
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"it took him decades to decide to do it"
Let's suppose he decided to pay for his crime in, say, 1966. What should he have done? Should he have told his captors that he wanted to go back and face the music? Would they have let him go? I doubt it. Should he have died as a martyr under torture? It's easy for me to say "yes" because I haven't been in his shoes.
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Well, he could have made the decision when he went to Japan, but that doesn't seem to have been his aim. When he was on Japanese soil, away from North Korean power, I don't recall any account of him saying he has longed to pay his debt to America.
I could easily be wrong about this, but the first I recall him claiming to have had this change of heart was after Japan had decided to extradite him to the US to pay for his crime. I remain unconvinced that his final change of heart was not self-serving. The only evidence that this might be true is the word of a deserter and a traitor whose actions (failure to make this claim until it was certain he was going back to the US to face trial) seem to belie his words and pleas for forgivness and clemency.
So I'm not buying it. He could have easily made those same statements while under Japanese jurisdiction, before Japan decided to extradite him and he failed to.
Kalroy
Posted by: Kalroy at December 19, 2004 09:43 PM (i9w6W)
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Mind you, he's already done forty years hard time.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 20, 2004 08:21 PM (uOsif)
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December 18, 2004
MATRIX
I have a confession to make: I bought
The Matrix: Revolutions tonight. Yes, I know, I know. General consensus is that it sucked, but I have to see for myself because I
still haven't seen it. I missed it the one day they played it in the theater here (yes, we get movies for one day only, unless they're mega-blockbusters), and I have to know how it ends. I don't care if it's the worst movie ever; it's been a year, and I have to know.
But I'm positive I won't think it's the worst movie ever. I'm sure my husband would say that my favorite movie genre is Crap, which is evidenced by my owning The Karate Kid Trilogy and Big Trouble in Little China. I'm easily entertained, have criminally low movie standards, and am a complete sucker for explosions, especially when they're set to techno music. Hence, my desire to see the final Matrix movie.
Since it's common knowledge that the movie was bad, it goes for $6.83 online, so I feel no guilt whatsoever in purchasing it. And I will watch it eagerly when it shows up. However, I will likely refrain from writing the embarrassing post about how I enjoyed it. Because I know I will enjoy it. Big Trouble in Little China, remember?
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But Jack Burton kicked ass with Egg. One of my favorite baddies, to boot. But I also liked "Killer Klowns from Outer Space".....
Posted by: Larry at December 18, 2004 08:26 PM (6jEN5)
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Now is not the time or the place to diss one of Kurt Russell's masterpieces of film. Jack Burton proudly shares an exalted place with Snake Plissken as authentic blue color American heroes. And you can bet the family farm that Jack Burton was a veteran of some branch of the American military. He acts and sounds like a Marine to me. He definitely was kicking serious butt and taking names.
Posted by: Pilgrim at December 18, 2004 10:11 PM (qUiee)
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Loved Big Trouble. A movie where the main character was actually the sidekick. It wasn't a great movie, but it was fun.
Then again, I thought the Blair Witch Project sucked, and that got critical acclaim.
Kalroy
Posted by: Kalroy at December 18, 2004 11:09 PM (i9w6W)
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I hate to disagree with you Sarah. There are bad movies as in 'cheesy bad.' The kind where you hate to admit that you actually enjoyed it. But the Matrix 3 is so bad, I literally could not watch it. The first movie was as good as the third movie is BAD!
Posted by: Greg Schreiber at December 18, 2004 11:21 PM (Y/7hg)
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Its all in the reflexes...
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Posted by: Sarah at December 19, 2004 04:29 AM (0lJaG)
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Big Trouble is one of the best movies EVAR!
Posted by: inkgrrl at December 20, 2004 02:33 PM (ARMDq)
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Big Trouble in Little China is a classic. Ask Susie, she'll tell you!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 20, 2004 08:24 PM (uOsif)
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"The Matrix Revolutions" is a movie that people either wildly love or wildly hate, with drastically few in between. But there is something that I've noticed that tends to make someone fall into either camp...
If a person believes in God, he/she will tend to appreciate "Revolutions". If a person does not believe in God, he/she will tend to think that "Revolutions" is a steaming pile of bat guano.
I thought "The Matrix Revolutions" was the PERFECT ending to what was already a perfect movie trilogy. It ended the only way it ideally *could* end: in peace. Maybe some people can't accept that because it flies in the face of EVERYTHING that Hollywood has told them how the world works: that you must crush your enemies without mercy so that you can gloat over their remains. Certainly that's how enough people in this world operate, anyway.
Here's the thing that might turn most people around on "The Matrix Revolutions": go find "The Animatrix", the collection of 9 anime-style shorts set in the Matrix saga. And watch "The Second Renaissance" parts 1 and 2. It was written by the Wachowskis themselves and it explains *everything* that happened that led up to the war between humans and machines. Without spoiling it I'll say this much: it's hard NOT to sympathize with the machines after watching it... and in fact the Matrix was a kind of **mercy** that they showed toward humanity, even when humanity showed the machines no mercy at all.
In the context of all this, Neo becomes a beautiful Christ-figure for both worlds. And I thought that's what made "The Matrix Revolutions" so rich and intriguing and even downright beautiful.
(PS, thanks for commenting on my blog Sarah. Glad I found yours also :-)
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December 17, 2004
ANTHOLOGY
I've been cleaning out my husband's hotmail while he's been gone, and I just noticed that he saved all of the emails I wrote him while we were dating. I've gotten sucked into reading them all over the past few hours, and I must say that I was something else back then. It's funny how he's been gone for ten months: back when we started dating, I couldn't stand to be without him for an hour. Probably the only person who will be interested in this post is my husband (and maybe Annika because she paid us a nice compliment in our interview). Without further ado, here is an
Anthology of Goofy Crap I Said to My Husband Back in 2000:
I will think about you twice every second while you are gone.
Girls dig sponges of useless knowledge, so if anyone tries to pick you up this weekend, get her number and then I'll go after her wolvyberserker style and beat her senseless. Mercy is for the weak.
Without you, I am Schroedinger's cat...both alive and dead...
It is funny how I have been looking forward to spring break for 18 weeks, counting them down, and then when I had to leave you I felt like I wanted to stay. I am about to waste 25 hours...the travel time...and all I can think about is how I would love to stockpile those hours and save them to spend with you.
My mom found out you are 19. Ha.
When I am without you, my heart is all ate up.
This is the last time I can write to you from Sweden, so I am going to blow you another kiss through the ethernet cable and tell you that I cannot wait to see you.
I am listening to "Glory of Love," the cheesy love song from the Karate Kid, and I wish you were here with me. I'll see you when you get home. And I promise not to be grumpy.
Work will be torture because you will not be there.
[when my roommate was annoying me] Only one more week. After that I will never share a room with anyone but you for the rest of my life.
I rented a movie and blah blah blah, everything seems so empty and boring without you.
I wanted to tell you that I want to marry you and have your big headed children and that I cannot imagine having to do this for another two years. Two days has been torture enough.
Are you drunk?
Are you telling stories?
Are you missing me as I am missing you?
Your grammar mistake was cute, but only after I realized what you meant to say. You wrote: "I am so glad to find out that you read my email. I'm glad you are not worried. You have no reason to be my Sarah." I hope you meant "You have no reason to be, my Sarah"!
I love you. I have every reason to be your Sarah
P.S. All pushups done for our beautiful flag are good pushups. (You are so strong!)
I love you so much that in driving home today, I started crying because I happened to look into a house window and see a wife straightening her husband's tie in the living room. I wanted so much for that to be you and me.
I miss you. To steal a metaphor from one of my new professors, when I am without you, I feel as alone as a bean rolling around in a boxcar.
[after watching an episode of Days of Our Lives] I love you, though. I will never say that you raped me just because you were keeping it a secret that your father didn't really die when he got shot by the Italian Mafia and is instead pretending to be dead to get back at your mother who is trying to cover her murdering tracks.
I am really starting to miss you. I can't wait to be together. 315 days until we get married...
I love you because you didn't vote for Nader and because you think Krispy Kreme donuts are overrated.
And my favorite:
My roommate told me something once that I have been trying to forget for four years. She once said, "In every relationship there is one person who loves more." Once I heard this wise statement, I began to analyze all of my relationships, both romantic and friend. And I have found through the past four years that she has unfortunately been right. There is usually one person who is head over heels for the other and the other tries to figure out why he does not feel the same. My view of relationships has drastically changed in the past four years because in my mind there was little chance of anything that resembled real love.
However, there was the oddball relationship that would come up every once in a while, the two people who seemed so in love that I could not tell who loved more. And my amendment to that statement is that in every relationship there is someone who loves more, until the two people reach a state of love where the difference is indiscernable. It's like some sort of calc graph where the lines become tangential and almost appear to be one graph. And so I decided that this is the only true love, the love where you cannot tell where one graph ends and the other begins.
I was thinking about this as I drove back to school, and I realized that I do not know who loves more in our relationship. It has been so easy to see with others, yet I really think that we love equally. And that amazes me. We are a calc graph. A horizon. A rainbow whose end you can never find.
"In every relationship there is one person who loves more, unless you are [husband] and Sarah, and then you just love the most."
My husband didn't do so bad himself. This one's my favorite:
Before you, I didn't give a rat's ass about girls. Now, I'm a shell of my former self. I'm pathetically crazy about you. I miss you so much that I read all your emails over again and listened to the voice mail message you left me over and over just to hear your voice. How pathetic is that? I would have kicked my own ass in the olden days. Who am I kidding? I love how crazy you make me. Come home.
Husband, the way I missed you five years ago is nothing compared to what I feel now. If it sounds like I loved you then, my feelings have only grown. I miss you so much and I can't wait to see you again.
You're favorite.
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Very cute.... he is a lucky guy.
Posted by: jd at December 18, 2004 12:41 AM (3ULfT)
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Ew-w-w-w-w!! Yuck!! Gag!!
All your favorites really brought a smile and fond memories to me. (Of course, we had to wait weeks sometimes, because of finding BAINBRIDGE somewhere out in the Pacific or Indian oceans. But still, we tried to compete with Revolutionary and Civil War eloquence--and failed ignominously.)
If I don't post to your blog again, may you and your Hero have a safe and blessed Christmas.
Posted by: Jim Shawley at December 18, 2004 02:48 AM (GdKO/)
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Lol...very amusing.
It's like fast forwarding through your whole relationship....like the movie trailer for some romantic comedy.
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: CaliValleyGirl at December 18, 2004 05:46 AM (sm1DR)
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I had to read through this once I saw the "Schroedinger's cat" line... that was just too sweet. There's a song or two in here- and that's a good thing.
Posted by: Jack Grey at December 18, 2004 06:00 AM (Jq8H8)
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Sarah,
Oh.My.God. So sweet! I got chills up my spine reading this post. As much as I enjoy hearing your opinions about politics, I LOVE hearing about the husband. You guys are one of those couples that no one ever doubts will grow old together.
Posted by: Erin at December 18, 2004 08:13 AM (1LxxS)
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Yeah - they cheesy and smaltzy but very sweet and cute. When he can read this post he'll love it.
Posted by: Toni at December 18, 2004 09:12 AM (t9yVU)
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Wow Sarah. Thanks for giving us that glimpse into your love life. I'm glad about the Days of Our Lives promise. That's only for Jerry Springer guests, really. You certainly are a lucky girl - and he is a lucky, very lucky guy. It's nice to see true love on display. Have a great holiday. Be safe and be happy.
Posted by: Kathleen A at December 18, 2004 10:29 AM (vnAYT)
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Too cute, girl!
i totally meant what i said!
Posted by: annika at December 18, 2004 04:18 PM (MYvJ3)
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So we were 19 & 21. 3 kids and many adventures and misadventures, broke, rich, broke again,now rich again, after 42 years and in our 60's nothing has changed, we have been faithful, it has never been boring, and all the "Ill love you forever" songs of our youth turned out to be true. I am still beautiful and his little doll, he will always be my Rock of Gibralter and the funniest man I ever met. By the way,we love each other the same, just differantly.
Posted by: Steampress at December 21, 2004 08:14 AM (8N17F)
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John Hawkins braves the Democratic Underground again and finds a wonderful example of
the irony that happens when Christmas pageants can't mention Christmas.
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Imagine how angry they'd be if they sang about Jesus!
I think mayhaps this was the school administration's of sticking it to the complainers. "You want us to not have Christmas? Fine, here's something that will really get in your craw ... America the Beautiful!"
PlutosDad
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Posted by: PlutosDad at December 17, 2004 04:30 PM (NRDlq)
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Schroedinger's Cat! Y'all are cute in a sick sorta way
V/R
Ed
Posted by: Ed at December 17, 2004 09:37 PM (yBNXx)
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KISMET
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mjseabee on Smash's blog pointed out a wild coincidence. I followed the story of a blogger named SGT Lizzie, who recently ran over an IED and got her "happy ass blown up", as she said. It turns out that Red 6, my husband's best friend, recovered her vehicle. Here's
her account of the story, and here's
his. Thanks to mjseabee for noticing that two bloggers' lives crossed for a moment.
(Update: Looks like they've figured it out.)
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Sarah - when I read Redsix's post the other day I thought the same thing. In his comments section someone alerted him to it. I don't think he was blunt as he was just real. Now that he knows one of the women - I'm sure it's different for him. I think it's amazing personally that two soldiers have crossed paths via the internet like that. Weird. I hope Sgt Lizzie is better soon and home safe. I love reading Redsix. Been teasing him about being 'famous'. Heh. Thanks for linking to him. He OWES him fame to you.
Posted by: Kathleen A at December 18, 2004 10:32 AM (vnAYT)
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FRIENDLY
Last week, Annika -- a cool blogger whose themes include poetry and ripping on Britney Spears -- interviewed me via instant messenger. She just tidied up the conversation and posted it on her blog. I think I sound like a huge tool, but I bet that's pretty representative of my real personality: I probably sound like that to everyone. Anyway, if you're interested in hearing me yabber for an hour, check out
Chicks Dig Tanks over at Annika's.
Annika and I touched briefly on Pat Tillman, a segment I would like to expand. I seriously didn't hear about the friendly fire until last week. I think the phrase "friendly fire" is is one of the worst things I can think of. I'd rather pretend it doesn't exist, but Tillman's death forced me to imagine the possibility.
2Slick wrote a long and detailed post on the anger the Tillman family feels, the "Army cover-up", and his thoughts on the matter. If you're interested at all in the subject, I highly recommend reading it. I think 2Slick summed up the crux of the controversy, at least for me:
There's a reason why the men involved refused to talk about the incident with the WaPo reporter. It makes them sick. Every single day. It's the first thing they think about when they wake up in the morning, and it's the last thing they think about when they go to bed at night. [...] But no amount of punishment could ever compare to the stomach-grinding guilt that these officers and soldiers will live with every single day of their lives. Please forgive the Army officials for not wanting to string these people up and administer public floggings.
Every now and then, I offer the same generic, sing-songy disclaimer: I have never been in the Army, I speak as a civilian, 75% of what I know comes from my husband, the other 25% comes from movies, etc, etc, etc. That said, I would like to return to the movie Courage Under Fire, which I mentioned twice was the reason I married my husband. I've been told that this movie is pretty emotionally accurate, and when I read 2Slick's post, I kept thinking about Denzel's character. He tortures himself throughout the whole movie for the friendly fire death he caused. In the end, the soldier's family says it's easy to forgive him, but now he has to learn to forgive himself.
One night right after CPT Sims was killed, I had a dream I was a soldier clearing buildings in Iraq. I shot someone who came rushing in the door and then realized he was an American. I woke up with the worst feeling imaginable, and that was just a dream. The guilt I felt based on a dream was so horrible that I can't begin to imagine the guilt of reality.
When your husband is deployed, you can't help but mentally plan for tragedy. I don't know if anything we mentally plan would actually hold up to reality, but we unconsciously work our way through various scenarios so that they're not uncharted territory should they ever come up. Last Wednesday I had to work my way through a mental friendly fire death. That was harder than anything I've imagined so far. But I know that it wouldn't be nearly as hard for me as it would be for the soldier who fired the round. That's how you would forgive something like that.
2Slick is right: there are only victims in a friendly fire, not villains. Is that the way anyone wants their soldier to go out? Hell, no. Is that the way Pat Tillman should've gone out? Not a chance. But I think I can honestly say that I would have an easier time dealing with being the family member than with being the soldier who shot America's hero.
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That's good stuff. Do you read Sassoon? I'd advise against it. There's more truth there than most can stand, but "gallant lies" are our Western Kabuki.
http://poetry.poetryx.com/poems/7224/
It would be hard to lose a son in any way, but in the words of "The Great Santini", "It beats dieing of the piles".
One of the unspoken lessons of the recent Presidential election was the nebulous nature of heroism. Kerry who had a chestful of bullshit that he'd mailed in his boxtops for, and the legion of mostly ignored men who'd endured so much more, but would not endure his hypocrisy. Go take a look at the swiftboat vets commercials on their site, particularly the last one.
When I think of heroes, I think of "Mr. Roberts" and the scene where he's listening to Roosevelt's VE speech on the 1MC, and he decides to throw the palm tree overboard, and then his subsequent last letter to Ensign Pulver, where he observed that he'd been in the company of brave men "who sailed from tedium to monotony with occasional side-trips to boredom".
Tillman was heroic. The tragedy of his death is magnified by the fact that it came by the hands of heroes. "Only a beauty, only a power, sad in the fruit, but bright in the flower, endlessly erring for it's hour".
Posted by: Casca at December 17, 2004 01:41 PM (K4X2y)
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Good interview... and you got to mention Prufrock again! LOL
Posted by: CavalierX at December 17, 2004 08:20 PM (sA6XT)
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I'm honored at the mention of my name.
As to Casca's Santini quote--my father was a Santini, and I've actually met the real one!
Posted by: Mike at December 17, 2004 08:37 PM (b7AUG)
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""Sarah: I guess what I took from the book was that people get so caught up in what they think is right or what they're doing at the moment that they forget there are other ways of doing things. Mike came along and taught them to understand things and not just accept what they'd been told was true""
I think that is one of the best 'short' (ie shorter then the book) descriptions of Mike that I've ever read.... It also accounts for why so many were against him.
My personal favorites were Red Planet (2nd grade), Starship Troopers (read at various ages and getting something different every few years), and To Sail Beyond the Sunset (I do wish he had been able to do one final book to complete things but.. ah well)
Did you ever read the uncut version of stranger? Oddly.. without really looking I didn't see much difference.
Anyway Thanks for your insites.. its cause of folk like you, Smash, and Blackfive that I started to go beyond the CNN headlines...
Posted by: LarryConley at December 19, 2004 04:32 AM (y5h4n)
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December 16, 2004
DANG
So today is apparently the day to just post funny stuff. This one's for all my reality show addicted friends:
Survivor: Texas Style
And this one's for my mama.
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Sarah - The Survivor bit is great! Most of the folks in my team are in Dallas, and they just howled!! The consensus is that no one would make it to Waco alive, though ;-)
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Thanks! That was cute! I'm going to miss watching "It's A Wonderful Life" with you this year. I think of you every time Michael drives away and I see his license plate--Zu Ptl--did you every think that when you made that choice that it would be passed down from one of your brothers to the next. It may just have to stay in the family!
Love,
Mama
Posted by: Nancy at December 17, 2004 03:22 AM (YuW6k)
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ROCKY
We're due for a post raving about my husband since I haven't done one in like a couple days now. Every time we chat online, I remember why he's my favorite person in the whole wide world. My husband is not only the smartest man I know, he's also one of the funniest:
Russell: cool about the OIF 4 stuff
Russell: no 1st ID
Sarah: wait, isnt that OIF 3?
Russell: no OIF three is coming in 2 months
Russell: 3rd and 42nd ID
Sarah: dang, I get them confused
Sarah: there are almost as many as the Rocky movies
Russell: Man OIF 5 is gonna suck then
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LOL. Funny stuff.
Keep it up, we all need to take things less seriously.
Posted by: Sean at December 16, 2004 04:52 PM (F5uhG)
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HEH
Another
joke:
Politics: It all really just boils down to this:
Criminals:
Democrats: Give them a second chance.
Republicans: Give them the swift sword of death.
The poor:
Democrats: Give them some food.
Republicans: Give them the swift sword of death.
Endangered species:
Democrats: Give them protection.
Republicans: Give them the swift sword of death.
Dictators:
Democrats: Give them a way out.
Republicans: Give them the swift sword of death.
The uninsured:
Democrats: Give them health care.
Republicans: Give them the swift sword of death.
THE COST:
Democrats: $9,000,000,000,000,000,000
Republicans: $29.95 (cost of one sword)
Heh.
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Simple and straight-forward... I like it :-)
Posted by: Barb at December 16, 2004 02:12 PM (q9AXC)
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Unborn babies:
Republicans: Protect them.
Democrats: Give them the swift sword of death.
Posted by: Mark at December 16, 2004 09:44 PM (Vg0tt)
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Mark:
Intolerant Extremists: Lionize him.
Responsible Realists: Give him the swift sword of death.
Posted by: Spoonfed at December 19, 2004 04:17 PM (2qJKm)
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LAW
Law and order are coming to Iraq. In baby steps, naturally, but they're coming.
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LUCKY
Man, how come I don't live in
Hanau?
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December 15, 2004
RED 6
1LT Neal Prakash from Albany, New York, a tank platoon leader with Alpha Company, 2nd Battalion, 63rd Armor, fires an AT-4 shoulder-fired rocket into a building in eastern Fallujah Nov. 10 after receiving fire from the site during Operation al-Fajr (New Dawn).
Compliments of the 1ID website, pointed out by an observant mother-in-law.
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Yeah, that AT-4 is a pretty little rocket. The Army tries to say it is an Anti-Armor weapon, but I say they gave it that designation before they actually shot a tank with it. About the only thing it is good for is blowing up cars and some buildings.
Rebel Rouser....OUT!
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HEH
And because we all could use a laugh, here's a joke from Oda Mae:
A Baptist minister was seated next to a Marine on a commercial airline flight. After the plane was airborne, drink orders were taken.
The Marine asked for a scotch and soda, which was promptly placed before him. The flight attendant then asked the minister if he would like a drink.
The minister replied in disgust, "I'd rather be savagely raped by brazen whores than let liquor touch my lips."
The Marine handed his drink back to the attendant and said, "Me too. I didn't know that was a choice."
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Hilarious!! This is one I would just love to tell in the Sunday School class; unfortunately, they might not see the humor in it. Ha!! ;-)
Jim
Posted by: Jim Shawley at December 15, 2004 10:38 AM (GdKO/)
Posted by: Cerberus at December 15, 2004 10:40 AM (nzIoS)
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Sorry - that was pricEless.
Posted by: Cerberus at December 15, 2004 10:41 AM (nzIoS)
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No sweat. My son is a Marine, so I understand the lack of an occasional E.
Posted by: Mike at December 15, 2004 01:26 PM (cyYKH)
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Brother is a Marine, father is a Baptist minister. Both are getting to hear this story come Christmas.
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LUNCH
When I sat down at our office Christmas lunch, I immediately remembered that I don't like any of the people I work with. I ate with a bunch of
looters. Two hours of conspiracy theories and "health care is a right" and all sorts of socialist nonsense from people who have chosen to remain in Germany as squatters, mooching off the Army. The table conversation would've been funny, I suppose, if it didn't make me want to throw up. One woman was complaining about health care in the US and about how much better it is in Germany. She said that German doctors weren't motivated by money like American doctors and that they earn the same salary as schoolteachers. "Then what's the incentive to become a doctor?" I asked. She got all flustered and condescending. "But that's thinking like an
American! You can't think like that!" "But I
am an American," I responded. "I'm an American to the bone." "But life isn't about money!" she whined. So here's where the fun began. "OK," I said, "then since we all work equally hard in our education center to help soldiers, why don't we pool our money and all get paid the same salary?" "Oh, but that's different because we work under the American system..." she trailed off. Different, really, how? Oh, because she makes $61,000 a year and I make $12,000. It's
her pocketbook now, so it's different. "Germans aren't motivated by greed like everyone is in the US," she continued. Her mental gymnastics were simply stunning: this is the woman who gets an outrageous housing allowance from the American government, illegally rents part of her house out, and uses the profit to buy up property in Germany and re-sell it. I suppose she does all of that out of the goodness of her heart and not for profit or anything.
AAAAAAAAAAARRRGGGGGHHHH!
On the way home, I tried to convince myself that I had just had a lovely lunch with Bunker, Deskmerc, Amritas, Fad, and CavX.
A girl can dream, right?
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We can have lunch together any time. The trick is to be within a reasonable distance from each other. Halfway across the planet doesn't cut it. Oh well, I will be in a closer time zone very soon ...
Posted by: Amritas at December 15, 2004 10:30 AM (sIr5j)
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You're tongue must have scars from biting it all the time around those people.
Posted by: Cerberus at December 15, 2004 10:38 AM (nzIoS)
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I was wondering why I woke up feeling full this morning.
Posted by: fad at December 15, 2004 11:30 AM (6WByt)
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I had the same sense as fad!
Posted by: Mike at December 15, 2004 01:24 PM (cyYKH)
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See what Ayn Rand will do to you. Welcome to the Club.
Posted by: sTEVE at December 15, 2004 02:43 PM (8HxzN)
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Sure, I was there. I remember it like it was yesterday. Actually, it WAS yesterday... right?
Posted by: CavalierX at December 15, 2004 10:02 PM (sA6XT)
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Fear not, Sarah...you're not alone.
Posted by: david at December 16, 2004 08:57 AM (ZVhuO)
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Liberals need to be slapped with an economics text book.
Posted by: Mark at December 16, 2004 09:45 PM (Vg0tt)
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