August 21, 2005
DIFFERENCE
For many soldiers, this is the face of Iraq...

This is their experience and what they remember from their time in Iraq. But reader Tanker sent me a link to another face of war. It's another very real aspect of Iraq these days...

The difficulty with the war in Iraq is the differing missions. One soldier's experience could be mighty different from another's, and when both write home and tell friends and family what "war" is like, they're going to paint a very different picture. That's how my favorite reservist ended up in a conversation where someone said, "You guys just stayed in camp and took pictures, right?", when in fact over half of the soldiers in his unit saw major action and are suffering from PTSD. FOB Anaconda has a Baskin Robbins and salsa dancing night; my husband and his platoon spent 87 days living IN Iraq, outside the safe confines of an American FOB. If your daughter is lying around in a bikini in Iraq, you'll have a vastly different view on the uptempo of the war than the Marlboro Man's mom does.
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ay-yi-yi, I am going to agree with you there. As for the female soldier thing, I agree with you. I was active duty, saw everything you are speaking about firsthand. Anyone who says otherwise is either naive or deluded. And this is coming from a dirty liberal.
Posted by: Jen at August 21, 2005 10:18 PM (GM8gh)
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You are doing a good job on your blog.
I am ashamed though, that young women, who should be creating life, are being soldiers and taking life, because the United States has so many cowardly young men.
I did my time in Viet Nam when men were men.
Posted by: Greg at August 21, 2005 10:39 PM (Yvyka)
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Greg-
Were the men braver then, or where they just, you know, drafted?
Posted by: Pericles at August 21, 2005 11:06 PM (hHudX)
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My boyfriend spent almost every night of his deployment to Iraq on an airbase, while only occasionally overnighting at an FOB, and ditto for this deployment to Afghanistan. Although he flies a lot, and that is pretty dangerous too, it certainly isn't as dangerous as doing patrols in Humvees Baghdad. I am sure I would be singing a different tune if he were in an infantry company and not an aviation one.
Posted by: CaliValleyGirl at August 22, 2005 08:26 AM (fSDNQ)
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well there has always been front line soldiers and REMF'S.which will cause resentment over time.i'm not sure how we should be fighting this war at this point.while progress has been made in some areas of iraq and afghanstan alot more needs to be done politically and security wise.i mean it's simple in one respect if you're not native middle eastern you can't walk the streets not without security teams unless you want to wind up possibly getting kidnapped or killed.it's hard to build a society in that kind of atmosphere.
Posted by: tommy at August 23, 2005 10:19 AM (NMK3S)
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God bless both the front-line soldiers and the rear area folks. Who's to say the bikini-clad woman didn't just complete a 15 hour day patching up a battle-damaged vehicle? I'll grant her a bit of pool time as I sit here fat, dumb, and happy with my wife and kids in beautiful 75 degree Wisconsin.
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August 03, 2005
OVER THERE
If you're in USAREUR like me, you didn't get to see the show
Over There. My mother-in-law relayed some of the show to me, and parts she remembered made me groan. I wish I could see it for myself, but it sounded hackneyed. My husband and I were goofing off later on: "Gosh, Sarge, what a SNAFU." and "Sir, yes, sir!" and other things that only appear to get said in the TV Army. John of Argghhh! compiled
reviews from milbloggers who watched the program, and the prognosis is not looking good. I can completely understand though: my husband can't get within ten feet of a military movie without turning beet red and swearing up a storm. If we want to see a show about war, we opt for
War Is The H-Word.
And I hear there was a soldier openly smoking pot? HA. Double HA.
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For your information, there's not any agencies like DEA in Iraq, and the police dogs are often dipatched to sniff out bombs, not drugs. Yes, lots of soldiers have found and smoked hash out there, if you think that drug tests are rampant out there in the field, triple ha's to you then.
Posted by: nerdstar at August 03, 2005 04:40 PM (AkKlL)
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I think the key word in her post was 'openly', as in OPENLY smoking pot. That means, in front of everyone, like it's okay. Now, if your little buds smoked behind a building or in a hooch and dropped the joint and stepped on it when someone walked in - that would not be OPENLY. OPENLY would be smoking in front of the Brigade Commander and moving the stub to salute. Because it's okay, everybody's doing it. Get it now?
Why don't you repost and, since something has destroyed your brain cells, I'll even let you win on the triple HA. I'm not sure you can count to double digits if you don't get OPENLY in a sentence. Poor child.
Posted by: Oda Mae at August 03, 2005 05:16 PM (uep0B)
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I'm with your Hubby, red faced.
Posted by: Ken Dixon at August 04, 2005 02:01 AM (6coDp)
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Being a physician, I used to be unable to watch "ER" because of the inaccuracies. Drove me nuts, and I drove my husband nuts talking over the show the whole time, trying to explain how this, that and the other thing were wrong. However, it was still a great show and very entertaining. My grandfather, my uncle and two of my cousins were/are NYPD, and although they would turn "beet red" when my mom and I watched NYPD Blue...we still loved it. I'm sure that "Over There" is nearly impossible for true military to stomach - but hey, if it's entertaining, and most of all, if it reminds people back here in the comfort of home, what our military does for us...then I'm all for it.
Posted by: gibby at August 04, 2005 11:53 AM (DrMqI)
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Ole Mae:
I smell a rat, and assessing from the fact that you've way overreacted about this, I think that rat is you...enjoy the smoke! I'm merely trying to make a point that illegal drug use does go on while in deployment. I can't have any say in how Steve Bochco writes in that "Over There" series, he's the one who's got to face up to the factualness of his script writing. Yet it seems like folks like you simply uses this forum to spew venom, and such medium has obviously been a waste for the likes of you. Lastly, I was there in Iraq for a year, and I am not going to let you or the likes of you discount that experience.
Posted by: nerdstar at August 04, 2005 04:05 PM (AkKlL)
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My husband was drug tested in Iraq. I don't know if that's standard, but he was. And he put a soldier in jail for drinking, so that kind of stuff was no joke in his Company.
Posted by: Sarah at August 04, 2005 04:36 PM (NxuHd)
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August 01, 2005
CLARIFICATION II
Man, this is why I've avoided blogging lately; it seems everything I say gets taken out of context or misconstrued. I get tired of going in circles.
So...I'm also not saying that all females are evil and unable to handle the military. I sure wish people wouldn't extrapolate my post into something I haven't argued.
My big beef is the view our society has that everything is the man's fault. This happens with sexual harrassment and infidelity, both in and outside the Army, but it happens in other realms too, which I've blogged about before in reference to Kim du Toit's bullseye, The Pussification of the Western Male.
Think about sitcoms: the men always cause the trouble. The portrayal of men on TV is ghastly. I saw it again today on a rerun of King of Queens: she wanted to go to the opera and he didn't; apparently she's too big of a witch to accept "look, hon, that's not really my bag", so he had to concoct this elaborate scheme to get out of going where he looked like a jerk in the end. I'm telling you, I stopped watching Everybody Loves Raymond when Ray ripped up his Superbowl tickets just to get Debra to stop whining for a second. The women on these shows are atrocious, but the joke is always on the dumb/incompetent/insensitive man.
Newsflash: men are not to blame for everything. That's my overarching beef with sexual harrassment norms and my reason for challenging Smink's post. Sometimes women are to blame for the unwanted advances and failed marriages.
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Sarah,
Truth always hurts, but still it must be said. Thanks for saying what many people know. Maybe some don't, but I think they are just in denial. People smart enough to read must be honest enough to admit the truth.
Posted by: Ruth H at August 01, 2005 10:55 AM (7br1D)
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To put the sitcom example in perspective, in the last season of Everybody Loves Raymond Ray Romano made $800,000 per episode. Patricia Heaton, who played his wife, was apparently making $75,000-$90,000. So, yeah, the "Men are stupid and women are wise" bit is mined for comedy, and maybe mined too much. That doesn't mean that it reflects the way that our society really values men and women, though.
Posted by: Pericles at August 01, 2005 05:22 PM (hHudX)
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Say it loud, dear. You have more allies than you know.
"If it weren't for men, women would still be living in caves." -- Camille Paglia.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at August 01, 2005 06:57 PM (MzH7h)
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So, I take a little time away from "The Sphere" and this is what I come back to-- my friends having to clarify their statements because other people don't like what they have to say? No, screw that. You say what you think, dimwits be damned.
People donÂ’t usually want clarification anyway, even if they say they do. For the most part all they want to do is twist words and play stupid little games so they can try and kick your words back in your face. Say what you think and let it be. If others want to be childish, then let it be so.
And one more thing, the last time I checked, women were the equals of men in American society. With equal rights come equal responsibilities. Both sexes are at fault for the problems in American society, not just one. DonÂ’t like that statement? Kiss me arse! No clarification needed... OUT!
Posted by: Ken Dixon at August 02, 2005 12:01 AM (+SdnQ)
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Sarah,
Never explain...never complain.
If the 'sheeple' out there really didn't understand, they could ask for a clarification. But instead they choose to accuse you of saying things you never said.
Thank you for being there to tell us what you think!
Brad
Posted by: Brad at August 02, 2005 01:46 AM (Qz3ul)
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Sarah,
Don't sweat the negative feedback. I think your points are well made. My own observations and thoughts are similar. Back when I was a young LT in Germany an old crusty First Sergeant gave me some sage advice about the same subject which I will clean up in this forum:" never ____ the hired help" and nothing will come back and haunt you. That meant to me, I always had to maintain the highest standards of behavior around the troops, all of the troops, and expect nothing less of your leaders and the troops. When that is violated use a big hammer.
As for getting flak from some of the troops out there, female or otherwise, it is my opinion that they either have an agenda themselves or they over reacted to the stimulus. And there are some out there that just don't like testosterone... been there and seen it up close. Now if this doesn't get a reaction like a red star cluster in a wall locker nothing will. All the best to you and the Hubby on his B-Day.
GEO6
Posted by: GreyEagleO6 at August 02, 2005 12:25 PM (WiKxR)
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Great support group you have.. that should make you feel better.
Let it be known though.. that people are entitled to their opinions and when you write your stuff on a public blog.. well.. You're gonna get some differing views now and again.
If you felt that you had to defend your position and this was bothersome to you.. then perhaps you should just not defend it.. and ignore people who don't agree with you. There's no faster way to diffuse a disagreement.. then to not pay attention to it.
With that being said.. I wish you the best of luck with your blog. It appears that you have a great network of readers who will go so far as to down other's opinions to uplift yours. It's human nature.
I'll have them all know though.. that Grey Eagle is in fact an amazing woman. An amazing person.. and if she did get offended.. she had a right to. It is a matter of opinion.. Some of your statements were pretty harsh and generalized.. and it was easy to feel a little prickle. But that doesn't make her a bad person, or wrong.. and the same could be said for anyone else that disagrees with you. Not that you said either of those things.
Take care.. and like your friends said.. write what you will at your own risk. People who don't agree with you.. will read.. comment and then move on to other blogs where they feel like their views are welcome.. not opposed.
It's the nature of such things! Is it not?

And with such bold statements as your own.. and strong opinions (both not bad things) you will face much heavier criticism in the future. Be prepared.. and be strong.
Unless of course, Big Brother tells you to knock it off.. then go to plan B.
Take care and best of luck to you all.
Phoenix Out
Posted by: Army Girl at August 02, 2005 10:25 PM (puF94)
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"With that being said.. I wish you the best of luck with your blog. It appears that you have a great network of readers who will go so far as to down other's opinions to uplift yours. It's human nature."
I wanted to add to this.. that putting other opinions down is normal if it doesn't agree with you.. Personal attacks and name calling is what I was more referring to.
Sorry about that.
Phoenix Out
Posted by: Army Girl at August 02, 2005 10:28 PM (puF94)
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CLARIFICATION
I thought I was perfectly clear in my
post on women in the military that I was only bringing up additional issues on the topic. But it appears that I need to say more.
I am not in any way saying that all of the blame lies with females. The reason I wrote the post was because Smink's post only addressed the issues that women face; I wanted to point out that there's another side to the story that neither Smink nor his 15 commenters addressed. That doesn't mean that I think females are the military's sexual predators.
Men can be sneaky, nasty jerks. I know of plenty of stories of the gross and immoral things they've done downrange too. However, we can't lay all of the blame at their feet. Women can be conniving sluts too. As a society, I believe we're too quick to always blame the men.
One scenario fleshed out: I heard a soldier tell the story of a time he heard a female specialist completely sass-mouth her first sergeant. She interrupted him and was extremely rude. As she left, my soldier friend expressed shock that she could get away with being so impertinent; he was told that the first sergeant had made the enormous error of having consentual sex with this female and was now paying for his mistake. This female specialist threatened to expose him if he didn't give her special treatment. Was the 1SG wrong for sleeping with her? You bet your sweet bippy he was! But this female is now the one hurting mission readiness by blackmailing her NCO. She could turn him in and say she was raped, and there's nothing he could do about it. In today's world and military, women hold all of the power when it comes to sexual harrassment. And I truly believe that some of them abuse this system.
Men and women are having sex downrange. Some of them are married, some are not. But what happens when two unmarried soldiers are having sex and the man wants to end it, and the female gets mad and reports to the unit that he raped her? Happened to someone I know. We as a society tend to always believe the woman is telling the truth in these situations; I personally don't believe that anymore. I think the system is abused and broken, so I get irritated when we moan about the plight of the poor, harrassed women in the military, and when every other AFN commercial is about stopping sexual harrassment against women. Some of these women know exactly what they're doing and have ruined the system for those who really are being harrassed.
[P.S. I also know that infidelity is not only a product of deployment or the military. Our last president had consentual sex with an intern. Bonehead, stupid, ridiculous move on his part. But what happened? She hung on to a dirty dress and destroyed his reputation, while she got book deals and made money. I don't excuse the president, but I do think that's despicable behavior on her part as well. She was not a victim in that situation, but she retained victim status simply because she is a woman. I believe the problem extends to all of our society.]
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You hit the nail on the head when you said they system is broken. It needs to be fixed. I think many people just have a hard time believing that women would act this way.
Posted by: Mare at August 01, 2005 09:06 AM (0CpxG)
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I am a married soldier, 35 years old, and a combat medic with the 101st Airborne Division preparing to deploy again to Iraq in the next few weeks with a Forward Combat Support Battalion
Your insecure statements are exactly what is wrong with the system. Case in point, there are 200 soldiers in my Company, a third of us are women. Of that there is one female soldier that we consider a "slut". Based on your statement all the rest of us who work so hard to earn the respect of the male soldiers should be held to her standard and are being deployed to entertain the male soldiers.
"But this female is now the one hurting mission readiness by blackmailing her NCO. She could turn him in and say she was raped, and there's nothing he could do about it" This statement very rarely could happen. If anything, the fact that the 1st Sgt allows his affair to carry over into the misson hurts the mission and probably shouldn't be a 1st Sgt.
A female soldier having sex with a 1st Sgt. Yep it happens. But, I can almost promise you that the 1st Sgt approached her with offers. That is simply the way it works. Does she have "ALL THE POWER", not in the real Army. The reason she gets away with the attitude is because the 1st Sgt doesn't want to risk losing what he has on the side. His weakness. She can report it was rape, but in 8 outof 10 cases the results will be the same, "there are not enough facts to further the investigation". See in the real Army it is a 1st Sgt's word against hers, and just like sexual harrassment, if there are not several witnesses (who have to be impartial, not friends of hers) then the commander investigating the case will not risk losing a senior NCO. Again, that is just the way it is.
In truth, fact, and reality, the only "power" we have is that the male soldiers hope and pray that we might consider sex with them, and that is the true "power". Most of us don't even consider it, it is just in the male nature to behave this way to us. The only male soldier who really has to worry, is the one that has a history of sexual harrassment or other issues that the commander is aware of and usually goes home and tell his spouse another story.
I'm not saying that as female soldiers we don't take crap from the men, or that we don't don't dish it out in turn. But the bottom line, is that we are soldiers with a very dangerous job to do. That is our first concern and priority. We really don't have the time to get upset over a comment or two. You probably don't understand this. The reason is, males talk and associate with each other in a swaggering sexual context, that is just their nature, esspecially in the Army where testesrone runs high. So this is their way of telling us that we are considered one of them, we are one of the guys, a soldier, an equal. So as long as you don't sexual touch us, or proposition us, it really doesn't bother us.
Sorry if this blows your image of us, but this is the facts and the way it is in the real Army.
Grey Eagle
http://www.afemalesoldier2.com
Posted by: Grey Eagle at August 01, 2005 09:53 AM (bTUq5)
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I don't understand what you mean by this "blowing my image of you." I'm glad there are females like you in the Army. I don't WANT to think that they're all skeezy. I want males and females to work on equal footing. But I'm telling you that every commercial break here in Germany contains some female complaining about being sexually harrassed. My husband had to attend repeated sexual harrassment training even when he worked in a combat unit with zero females. The Army focuses so hard on it that it seems that this is the only issue surrounding female soldiers. I'm glad to hear you say that you and your fellow females see the situation differently; please don't put words into my mouth that I didn't say. I'm not rooting for your failure...
Posted by: Sarah at August 01, 2005 10:03 AM (qPy3t)
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"But, I can almost promise you that the 1st Sgt approached her with offers. "
Must be different in the USAF then. Seen it happen, though the young lady didn't do anything out of sorts afterwards. Just a trophy hunter.
Oh, and Sarah, you were quite clear in your previous post. I probably won't comment because it brings back some memories of things that happened to a couple of airmen (not me) that I was unfortunate enough to have been around during the early 90's. I agree that such incidents should be part of the debate, along with other factors.
I think the biggest problem that people will have with this topic is that it isn't one in which feel good measures and "good guy" politics should ever have a place. To have the best military requires that a horrifically pragmatic view be taken. Otherwise it becomes a less than optimum force. Seen that too (in the physical ability topic) though that was more prevelant than the hinky fooling around.
Somebody needed to tell these people that you don't date people at work, even if that work is a foxhole. Hell, that ought to be a law.

It's always been a law for me. Enforcable by death now that I'm married.
Heck, looks like I did comment. Dang.
Kalroy
Posted by: Kalroy at August 01, 2005 10:13 AM (9RG5y)
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Kal, you're right. I have a problem with unmarried soldiers developing relationships downrange too, because it detracts from the mission.
And I don't even want to go into the issues surrounding physical ability. I swore off that topic when I read the astounding book
The Kinder, Gentler Military. I can't even go there. Suffice it to say that when a female hands her weapon to the NCO and whines, "SGT X, my thingy isn't working...", there are issues beyond which I want to tackle here.
Posted by: Sarah at August 01, 2005 10:36 AM (qPy3t)
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I think you're quite right, Sarah.
Gray Eagle-- I think you're taking personally what's aimed at those females that give you and I a bad name.
Posted by: Sailorette at August 01, 2005 07:27 PM (goEPa)
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I was directed here by my friend and fellow blogger, Grey Eagle.
Interesting discussion, to say the least.
I do understand the points I think the both of you are trying to make. My opinion though, is that yes, what you are talking about does happen.. but to a MUCH lesser degree than the norm... which is women being sexually harrassed by men in uniform. I think it's funny Grey Eagle referred me to this subject because ironically, I have felt first hand, some severe cases of this.
And I had to remove my story from my blog because it does not sit well with the guys with the big rank.
Anyway, yes.. I will agree that there are a great deal of women in the military.. younger girls, who find the attention and the newfound power to be mind blowing. But I agree with Eagle in that there are few of those girls out there.. who make the rest of us look bad. And when we start to focus so much of our attention on the very small minority, it is easy to assume and stereotype other females into their same category.
I think what is offensive is that most of us fight that 'slut' stereotype on a daily basis. Damn.. several times a day.. without having done A SINGLE THING that would warrant such derogatory remarks or rumors. But because we are female.. and greatly outnumbered, it is a part of being in the army.
When people start making generalizations and touting the negativity.. it's almost like promoting it. Whereas instead of focusing your thoughts and energy to the women out there who ARE doing right by themselves, their fellow soldiers and their service.. unknowing people begin to start making assumptions about the rest of us.
Yes.. you may not have been talking about all of the females.. but your words could and most assuredly will affect the perceptions of the people who read your blog.
I believe that you weren't trying to slander us all. And I believe that Grey Eagle is doing right by trying to offer a different perspective. The main point is that the Army focuses its money and its messages in where it thinks it needs to be. Domestic violence, child abuse and sexual harrassment/assault are prevalent... as I'm sure you know. So naturally that is where the money goes.
And being a family member of a high ranking CID agent.. I can tell you that you don't even know the HALF of what goes on on a day to day basis at our posts around the globe. But I can assure you.. that the 'atrocities' that women are creating and initiating are far few and far between what is happening TO women.. not just our soldiers.. but dependents as well.
Men are just as manipulative, just as demeaning and conniving as women. Don't kid yourself. And we could sit here for days and trade stories, I'm sure.. but in the end all that really matters is that there are stupid people out there.. and in every situation there is a shared responsibility by all involved.. except of course in random acts of violence.
Which, I'm pretty sure if you pulled those stats, you'd find very few males victimized by women.
I'm glad you clarified your earlier post.. and defended your position.. It appears to me that you are intelligent and can see both sides of this as well. I hope my comment doesn't come off as me trying to debate or argue. I support your statement as well.. just trying to explain how statements like that.. although well intentioned or not intended to make all of us Army girls look bad.. really does. It's hard not to take offense by strangers on the outside when we fight it all day long by men on the inside.
We could use a few more allies on all sides.. but no matter. We knew what we were getting into when we joined up.. and I wouldn't trade my world for anyone else's. I love my life, my career and my country.. and no matter what anyone wants to say or to call me.. or to speculate about.. I'm still going to do the best damn job I can.
Also.. you have to take into consideration that we're a bit older than these girls fresh out of high school..

But that's not to say that they are all bad!!
Have a great week.. I've GOT to get to bed.
Phoenix Out
Posted by: Army Girl at August 01, 2005 10:19 PM (puF94)
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Oh yeah.. And you're damn right we hold all the power.. but not relating to sexual harrassment alone.
The problem is that it's women who are insecure who are playing these head games with people's lives and careers... and their own hearts.
If they truly knew how much power they had.. I'm sure they'd not feel the need to search for vindication, acceptance, status and other such things from others. They'd see it in themselves.
That's what's really wrong with these girls and guys.. insecurity. (ok.. well.. it's a major thing.. but certainly not the only thing.)
Posted by: Army Girl at August 01, 2005 10:25 PM (puF94)
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Army Girl, my only quibble with your comment is where you call me a "stranger on the outside." I'm not *totally* on the outside. My husband just moved from Armor to Finance, so we're getting a taste of both worlds.
Posted by: Sarah at August 02, 2005 02:37 AM (IKNDq)
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Good discussion on all sides I think. Main message seems to be - Don't let the jerks color your impression of an entire group - for either side. We seem to have a great military - with some real assholes thrown in - both male and female.
A lot of issues in the military are the same as issues in any large corporation. They just get magnifeid, especially in a combat situation (my opinion)
Good points made by all.
Posted by: RC at August 02, 2005 12:13 PM (gDEwS)
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I knew you were a wife.. when I said, 'on the outside' I meant that. Sorry if it came off too strong.
But there is SUCH a big difference between 40+ hours a week with 'the guys' than hearing it second hand from your hubby and other people. It's just not the same when you're in it all day long..
Actually.. in my personal experience, the wives are worse than the men.. and can be way meaner!
But.. that is just my experience. I wouldn't blame them.. as they know I'm deploying with their men for a year or so.. and as it is.. I see them more than they do most of the time anyway.
Military wives, by no means.. have it easy. It's a life, job and career all its own. So is being a brat.. lol. I was born and bred Army. So I know how it is on all three sides.
Take care!
Posted by: Army Girl at August 02, 2005 10:35 PM (puF94)
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July 31, 2005
DISSENT
Smink has a post on his views on
women in the military (He's fer it). No one in the comments section brought up the touchy and delicate issue I would like to address. Any candid discussion of women in the military must focus on some key problems.
What about the barracks rooms designated for anonymous sex where females can try to get knocked up so they don't have to deploy? What about the females in Iraq who are running prostitution rings, charging money for sex with the male soldiers? What about the females who are making pornography and posting it on the internet? What about the females who have boasted that their goal is to sleep with every officer on the FOB? What about the females who lure married men to their beds and then threaten to expose their adultery? What about the frightening power a junior enlisted soldier has when she's sleeping with the first sergeant?
All of these scenarios I describe have happened in our brigade. I know of families that have been destroyed because of both real and imagined infidelities during a deployment. I've heard stories about ruthless female soldiers that make me ashamed of my gender. If we are going to discuss the effects of women in combat, we do need to discuss all that Smink brought up: performance, sexual harrassment, etc. But we also need to address the nasty effects of taking thousands of males away from their families and bunking them with a handful of women for a year. Yeah, I bet a lot of times it's the males' fault, but I've heard enough stories to make me wonder if the females haven't brought some of it on themselves.
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You raise some serious questions there. What should be done, or how should those situations be handled/prevented?
Great continuation of an interesting discussion.
Posted by: JACK ARMY at July 31, 2005 01:02 PM (L20+G)
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You know I was just all set to write an indignant blog entry about this very issue. Someone posted a link on a board I read to pics of a woman deployed in Iraq, buck naked with an automatic weapon between her legs. That discussion focused on 'what you do on your own time is your business' But what about the fact that the woman in question was wearing a US uniform?
You make good points that should be discussed. Prostitution is illegal and should be prosecuted. A man or a woman who's married and cheating on their spouse knows it's wrong Now if they are being blackmailed because of it, that's illegal.
But don't make the guys seem like boy scouts. Just because they're deployed doesn't mean that they don't have to accept personal responsibility for their actions. When I hear of women acting like you described it makes me ashamed of my gender, and angry that their behavior could have the effect of setting back women's rights gains.
I also have to wonder if some of these problems would be an issue if the US weren't deployed to Muslim countries where fraternizing with the indigenous women is a no no.
Posted by: Mare at July 31, 2005 06:13 PM (0CpxG)
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You're kidding, right?
How about punishment for those men AND women that commit a crime (prostitution and the solicitation of prositution). And if this is on going, it more reeks of a failure of command.
Are we going to whine that a man can't resist such temptation? That's why they make women where bhurkas for heaven's sake! Insist on self control.
If husbands are cheating on their wives (here or there) -- this is just the woman's fault? Self control.
"Lure married men to their beds"?? The married man didn't have a clue? Hypnotized? Drugged? Stupid? You can't be lured -- you have to be a willing participant.
Women soldier don't need male soldiers to get pregnant to avoid deployment -- any sperm donor will do -- on or off the base. The barrracks is just convenient -- not a necessity.
Sleep with every officer? There are few officers that have invested that much time, effort and sacrifice that would be willing to lose their marriage, career, and self-esteem to sleep with an enlisted soldier who claims to want to sleep with every officer on the FOB?? (FOB groupies??) but again, the officer's not an idiot -- he has to be a willing participant.
This is not an issue of women in the military. This is the species as it always has been. And by my reckoning, there is a WHOLE LOT MORE rape and sexual assault perpetrated on women soldiers by male soldiers that those evil women soldiers luring men to their "doom".
Posted by: Not Kidding at July 31, 2005 06:19 PM (pHSgP)
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As I stated in the comments on Jack Army's blog, I am not saying the men are saints...I'm just saying that the women provide their fair share of nasty. The original post at Smink's absolved women of any role in the military's problems with sexual harrassment.
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I sooo did not have the balls to bring this up, glad you did!!
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sarah
i've read your site for some time and have enjoyed it. congratulations on your husband returning home. i have heard nothing but great things about his division and heard recently that one of cpt simms' soldiers may be up for the medal of honor... ssg bellavia may be the most decorated solider in the war... was he one of your husbands soldiers? that kid is outstanding he killed six terrorists by himself in a house and i read that he was forced to use hand to hand fighting... i wanted to mention right quick that your apology to sgt fitts was very big of you. we that have never been in combat can never know what it is like. is that your husband shooting that rpg next to his tank? amazing. can you ask him what he was shooting at? vehicles, houses... action shots like that are amazing. why didn't he use the tank gun... was it damaged in fighting... anyway.. this site is great
Posted by: douglas at August 01, 2005 02:54 AM (qVsTR)
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sarah,
is your husband going back soon... know that my church and family are covering you and him and all our soldiers with prayers
Posted by: douglas at August 01, 2005 02:57 AM (qVsTR)
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Isn't INTEGRITY valued in all our military services?
Integrity: the courage to do what is right even when no one is looking.
I find this discussion humerous. Everyone seems so concerned about the promiscuity in the war zone.
What about promiscuity in the USA?
War is just another excuse to engage in immoral behaviour.
Posted by: Bec at August 01, 2005 03:53 AM (lzFux)
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I've seen both sides of it. Went through co-ed Basic and AIT, was in an MOS that some say is as high as 50% female (96B - Intel Analyst). That means I served with females from the day I started Basic to the day I ETSed. A good soldier is a good soldier and I worked with some very good female soldiers ... but I also saw a lot of sex-related drama happen around female troops, including abuse of double standards and sex discrimination policies. Also saw male troops 'lose their military bearing' (lose their minds, more like it) around female troops. I couldn't imagine NOT serving with female soldiers, at least in my old MOS, but it's definitely not a problem-free arrangement.
Posted by: Eric at August 01, 2005 05:40 PM (CTgpx)
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wow. ok. I served 8 years in the Navy. I heard the horror stories too. Women who got stationed at Diego Garcia and made a dandy sum prostituting. It exists. So does rape among the MEN. There is a problem but lets not lay a blanket of blame over men vs women (or the other way around). You have some bad apples in the Service, period. Removing women from the Military won't get rid of the problem.
I remember a friend who went on a 6 month world cruise on his boat. He was a lowly supply petty officer. Oh the stories he told. His boat had NO women. They still had problems. Lets not even discuss when they hit port. He said that the people you thought would surely cheat on their spouse didn't, and the ones you never imagined would....did. He said he was astonished to see the XO in line outside of medical to get checked for AIDS after a port call to Mombasa.
The answer is stricter rules and stricter punishments for disobeying. I am now in the Army National Guard. I am a very moral person and would hope that I never stoop to those levels.
Bottom line? It's like my Mama always said "If you go looking for trouble, your gonna find it."
SGT Lori
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July 29, 2005
BRAC
The husband and I watched Vice Chief of Staff Cody's briefing on the Pentagon channel two days ago, and I looked for an article on it yesterday to no avail. But it's out today:
Army identifies locations for units in new, brigade-centric force structure. If anyone's interested in base realignment,
this graphic is informative. The presence in Germany will be
significantly reduced. What an exciting time for the military!
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I reckon this all makes sense, but does anyone else thinks it looks odd to have a Mountain Division BCT in Louisiana?
Posted by: Bob at July 29, 2005 02:18 PM (WMa4u)
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Anyone with an opinion about the Stryker vehicles? I've read such different things.
Posted by: Pericles at July 30, 2005 01:57 PM (hHudX)
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Is that graphic accurate, is the 3rd ID going from Mech to Light fighters? I hadn't heard that before.
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July 17, 2005
RE-UP
An interesting side note that no one mentions when they talk about military recruiting these days, via
this Stars and Stripes article:

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Stars and stripes is not what I would call an "independent source" for those numbers. If that is so why does no paper not published by the pentagon print that??
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at July 17, 2005 09:29 PM (aHbua)
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So, what, that means it's falsified? I personally think other papers don't care about making the military look successful in its goals. And anecdotally speaking, my husband reenlisted all but two of his eligible soldiers while they were in Iraq.
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I'd like to know what the overall rate is. Anti-Bush MSM like citing recruiting numbers as evidence that the GWoT is causing our military to weaken. The military cities performance against re-enlisment goals.
What's the big picture?
Posted by: Sean at July 18, 2005 12:59 PM (etwyR)
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Sean asks an important question. My hunch is that the Army is behind its goals if you look at new enlistments plus re-enlistments together. According to Stars and Stripes, so far in FY '05 the Army is about 3,000 ahead of its goals in re-enlistments. I don't know the new enlistment number for the same time period. But just in February alone, new enlistments were over 1,900 below the goal. In May, it fell over 1,600 below its goal. PLUS, in May the Army actually dropped its goal to 6,070 from 8,050. It missed its original goal for that month alone by about 3,000.
For the record, I don't think that you can infer anything positive or negative about the success of Bush's policies from these numbers. It does say that our soldiers aren't cowards, but no one thought that they were.
Posted by: Pericles at July 18, 2005 03:49 PM (hHudX)
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All,
The reenlisment goals are what are set by the individual service for that year in order to meet "end strength" numbers. Each service has a set "end strength" (number of personnel at the end of the fiscal year--1 Oct). This includes the recruiting goal.
For instance if the end strenght is "X" and recruiting falls short, reenlisments have to increase to meet end strength requirements.
I look at the high reenlistment rate as a sign of what we are doing right and recruitment as an indicator of what we are doing wrong. We are doing a good job of showing the importance of our work (reenlistments) and a poor job of selling ourselves to the mother's and father's of potential recruits (enlistments).
Notice the Corps is awesome at reenlistments? Despite one of the most heavily burdened services with combat deployments? That just shows the "common" Marine believes in what he/she is doing! Same goes for the other services.
Bottom line is people who serve believe in the fight and the importance of what we accomplish every day.
V/R
Jamie
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One explanation of this that I've heard is that the combination of high re-enlistment bonuses and stop-loss have led to many people re-enlisting simply because they know they'll be forced to stay in anyway and if they don't re-enlist, they won't get the re-up bonus. This doesn't counter your statement but it hardly leads us to think that there's a great deal of enthusiasm for the war.
Posted by: Karlo at July 19, 2005 09:07 PM (r65rq)
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Jamie -- I am reminded of what Donald Sensing's son went through when he was trying to choose
Army or Marines. The Army relies heavily on the GI Bill as a selling point, but not many people are going to take that bait during a war. In contrast, the Marines focus on patriotism and duty. That's a stark contrast, in my opinion.
Posted by: Sarah at July 20, 2005 04:52 AM (aZGxu)
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Karlo,
There isn't a great deal of enthusiasm for ANY war. If you've been to one, you realize why the phrase "War is Hell" was coined.
However, we are fighting for our very beliefs and way of life. If we are to roll over and allow the terrorist to win, we lose--everything. Believe it or not this a large part of the "war on terror". It was never about WMD. We are fighting extremist who want to take away our way of life and replace it with a version 99% of US citizens wouldn't comprehend. I am NOT talking about Isam as a religion either.
We fight there or they come here. It REALLY is as simple as that. Would anyone want Zarqawi roaming in their neighborhood? That is exactly what we would get if we don't fight. Just imagine 100 million Zarqawis roaming in the neighborhood of the US. Most people fighting know this. Reenlistments are high because of this.
Sarah is right though. The Army doesn't do a good job of sales. Also, the media doesn't help by displaying anything that shines a bad light on the military and never showing the positive work done by our armed services.
The Army does offer some good bonuses though for re-ups (so does the Air Force--I got a pretty decent chunk of change. Even as a "lifer"). Bonuses do help retention but not as much as most think. Also stop loss is really not an issue here. Most of the stop loss stories are rumors.
V/R
Jamie
PS: Sorry Sarah for taking over your comments. I couldn't resist this one.
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About a year ago, a former Marine officer I know laid out for me the different recruiting pitches that the different branches use. He said that for the Army it was the GI Bill, as other people have said. For the Marines, though, he thought it was "We will make a man of you." He said that the men he commanded were mostly guys who had been scrawny runts before going into the Corps who were sick of being pushed around and who wanted the Corps to toughen them up. (Which is what happened, I presumed; I'm not calling any serving Marines runts.)
I think the "Better to fight them in Iraq in America" line is bogus, though. We are fighting different groups of people in Iraq. Some are Baathists, or Iraqis who were not in love with Saddam but don't want another country's army in their territory. They would never have bothered us if we weren't in Iraq. Then there are the real jihadists, the suicide bomber types who had been suppressed under Saddam but are coming in over the border. Them we need to kill. If we hadn't gone into Iraq, though, then they would have gone to Afghanistan, and we could have killed them there. And concentrating on Afghanistan would have saved us a lot of trouble. That was the war we had to fight, and if we had focused on it 100% maybe Osama Bin Laden---the guy who killed 3,000+ Americans---would be dead or in jail.
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July 06, 2005
HOMEFRONT
I went to our neighbor's change of command today, where he said something that struck me: he thanked the families for their support during OIF and told his soldiers that they can't understand what it was like to be left behind. I remember I got a taste of this when my husband was home on R&R and CPT Sims was killed. My husband was quite taken aback by everything we wives knew about life insurance and death gratuity. He was surprised that I knew things like how long I would be able to stay in quarters, and he was surprised at the string of phone calls we wives began to send. He said that he had never thought about things from the family end; he had never realized the worrying we did, because he always knew if he and his men were safe.
My job during the deployment was significantly different from his. Mine was nowhere near as hard (though I imagine wives who stayed back with three or four kids might think otherwise), but it was something he couldn't quite grasp. And unless you've lived the homefront lifestyle, you just don't quite know what it's like. Soldiers don't know what the homefront feels like.
(I was mulling over what my neighbor said when I realized we're back to the chickenhawk garbage. I think the two thoughts are related. I don't think you have to live through something to have an opinion on it, though I think it helps to know someone who has gone through it so you can talk about it and learn more. But not everyone can live every experience; the chickenhawk argument is bogus.)
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Okay, that's weird. I think I was reading your Major Patti post when you were reading the Chicken Post at my blog...
Posted by: Blackfive at July 06, 2005 12:33 PM (ynjpR)
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Better a chickenhawk than a chickens**tchicken.
Someone wrote that if you believed in universal health care but your daughter did not dedicate her life to nursing you were a chickennurse.
Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at July 06, 2005 04:31 PM (xX0fS)
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Look if your 18 to 32 and you cheerlead this FUBAR mission, and you do not wish to enlist then maybe you should have yourself a nice steaming cup of STFU. I did my 6 years, I can chose to cheerlead or I can choose to criticize, as to Iraq I absolutely believe we do not belong there, and I said so from the get-go. Afghanistan I supported, I felt that was a correct decision. To go get Bin-Laden "dead or alive" as the president said. Iraq other than serving as a retirement home to Abu Nidal had zero to do with sponsoring terror (as said by both the 9-11 comission, and the Senate Intelligence Comittee Report) in the United States. I don't want to hear some specious right wing garbage about "Ansar al-Islam" either, they were operating under the northern no fly zone where Saddam could not project any power to remove them from his nation.
Anyone out there remember what happened to Yugoslavia when Marshall Tito died?? Same story in Iraq after we removed Saddam. The complete lack of understanding of history about this topic just astounds me.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at July 08, 2005 12:08 AM (aHbua)
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But, Bubba, you did your six years
decades ago...if you're not doing the fighting and dying *right now*, then why does your voice matter more? Just wondering...
Posted by: Sarah at July 08, 2005 03:17 AM (JgjE3)
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Sarah: somehow I doubt a genetically-altered laboratory mouse would ever meet the minimum requirements for any branch of the US military.
Posted by: Patrick Chester at July 08, 2005 08:51 AM (74cXW)
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Sarah, I'll tell why my opinion matters more than some 18, or 20 year old yuppie larvae's.
I SERVED, THEY DO NOT WISH TO, seriously I use the term chickenhawk to describe those that are generally 18 to 32, single, and reasonably fit. They cheer for the revenge killing of "all them f--king Aaaaayyy Rabbs", yet they refuse to consider enlisting to help the cause. Let me tell you it sure feels like I wasted 6 years of my life, when I compare where I am vs. some of my highschool classmates. While I was doing my duty as I saw it, those people were establishing their "networks". Ask your husband how he would feel if after his service these same yuppie larvae treat him with the disdain they reserve for the "hired help". Which in fact if Cheney is any example, they will. See they don't really give a rat's ass if we kill 1700, or 17,000 American troops in this "war" as long as they aren't the ones dying. These are the people that you will approve of as long as they say they are conservative and vote republican. Real nice crowd. At least the progressives, and moderates aren't hypocrites about the war.
See while this mal-administration mouths platitudes about "supporting the troops", I have put off paying bills to send supplies to the troops, it has caused financial grief, and while I may think their mission is FUBAR, I think the "ground pounders" (I use that with the utmost respect) are performing very well. It is the senior leadership I think sucks for the most part. For those reasons and many more, are why my opinions matter more than the chickenshit-chickenhawk's, OK?
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July 05, 2005
PROMOTION
One time at a military ball, we sat across from a MAJ Hook. My husband leaned over and whispered, "I bet it was a long seven years as CPT Hook." I nearly spit my wine across the table.
Some names and ranks just go together. And some you just get so used to hearing that it feels weird when they change. But a promotion is a wonderful thing, even if we have to learn a new title. So I guess we'll just have to get used to calling the sweetest woman on the planet MAJ Patti now.
Congrats on your promotion, MAJ Patti!
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You got to love that dry humor.
Posted by: CaliValleyGirl at July 05, 2005 06:41 AM (Zfuiq)
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Congrats to Maj. Patti!!
Thanks for letting us know Sarah! I often wonder how they are doing! That's just wonderful!
Posted by: Tammi at July 05, 2005 08:31 AM (F4oo1)
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What great news and I ditto Tammi's comment. Heya to Tim, hope you all doing great.
Posted by: toni at July 05, 2005 12:59 PM (X11Ay)
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Congratulations to Maj. Patti! Also, Tim, I sure miss your blog, but I'm happy that the two of you are together.
Sarah's Mom
Posted by: Nancy at July 06, 2005 12:22 AM (DljPa)
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One of my detailer in the Navy was LT Coldiron. When he reported to his first ship, with orders in hand to be the communications officer, the CO said, nope, with a name like that, you're going to Engineering.
When a ship has it's plant shut down, it's in "coldiron" status...usually when pierside (on purpose), but a few times it has been known to happen at the most inopportune moment while underway. Then we just usally said the ship "dropped the load."
Another one of those names that just had to be a job....Larry generally was always in Engineering during his sea tours.
Posted by: Curt at July 06, 2005 10:40 AM (B+3DL)
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One of my detailers in the Navy was LT Coldiron. When he reported to his first ship, with orders in hand to be the communications officer, the CO said, nope, with a name like that, you're going to Engineering.
When a ship has it's plant shut down, it's in "coldiron" status...usually when pierside (on purpose), but a few times it has been known to happen at the most inopportune moment while underway. Then we just usally said the ship "dropped the load."
Another one of those names that just had to be a job....Larry generally was always in Engineering during his sea tours.
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Years ago I had a shipmate named Randy Pinson. His wife kept urging him to get a commission. Nope, my friend would say, "No way am I ever going to be 'Ensign Pinson'".
Posted by: 74 at July 06, 2005 01:00 PM (BiZQo)
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I used to know a Lieutenant Major. It was so glaringly obvious what he would be called as he was promoted that it didn't even really merit comment. I remember hoping at the time that he would one day become Major General Major.
Posted by: Tony B at July 06, 2005 01:56 PM (QBrm4)
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I once saw a CPT Marvel in line at a Post Bank in Germany... It took all of my will not to laugh in his face (I was a mere E-4)... He saw my smile and seemed to have a good sense of humor about it.
Posted by: Stu Clark at July 06, 2005 03:18 PM (qB6yb)
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What's in a name?
Then there was US Army LT Manteufell who ruined a hectare of kartofel with his tanks in West Germany during Reforger.
The old farmer came out to bitch LT Manteufell out. In the middle of his screaming at the young LT, the farmer saw his nametag.
The old man's eyes bugged out and he looked the LT over closely. He then came to attention and saluted the LT.
The PLT got a fresh hot dinner as well.
Posted by: red river at July 06, 2005 04:56 PM (wiIi5)
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Congratulations, Major! I'd probably never have started blogging if I hadn't needed a Blogger account to wish you a non-anonymous "Welcome home." I'm glad to hear things are still going well for you.
Posted by: Bill Faith at July 06, 2005 06:57 PM (5vspZ)
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When I was serving at the AF Military Personnel
Center, one of the Assigments Officers (same as navy detailer) had a slot to fill in Saudi Arabia.
He had 5 roughly equivalent candidates so naturally he selected Captain Lawrence.
Posted by: Possum at July 06, 2005 11:09 PM (ywZa8)
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At our local post there is a Maj Frank Burns - he says he gets a LOT of ribbing for that
Posted by: kc2ixe at July 07, 2005 08:39 AM (NHwJK)
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In my days with the 3rd ACR, I served with a John Hancock, a SGT Pepper, and a SGT Slaughter.
Posted by: Guido at July 07, 2005 01:18 PM (d5glM)
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Captain Marvel wasn't the only superhero in the Army... I also knew of a Captain Justice.
One friend of mine, an X-ray tech, told me of one instance where he was calling the next person in line, a Sergeant (E-5) Major. At the same time, there was a Sergeant Major (E-9) waiting his turn. Not sure how much was embellishment, but my friend describing it made it sound reminiscent of "Who's on First".
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When I was CO of B Troop, 2/10 Cavalry in the 7ID at Camp Kaiser, Korea (1968-70), one of my young buck (E5)sergeant's last name was Major.
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June 27, 2005
HEH
I just noticed that Red 6 is featured in the Stars and Stripes
tribute to heroes.
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HEH
I've been trying to get some reading done in the morning, and there are so many things I'd like to point out but don't have the time. Check out Conservative Grapevine and Varifrank as usual. I did have a chuckle at
this article about Iraqi soldiers learning to complain:
The soldiers also are mad about what they call a $70 cut in their monthly pay. Soldiers, on average, earn $300 to $400 a month, they say. The reason, it turns out, is something nearly every American begrudges, whether a soldier or not. For the first time, the Iraqi government began taking taxes out of the platoonÂ’s paychecks.
I can't wait until Iraq is back on her feet.
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I have long advocated cancelling the income tax on all military while serving and, ideally, for life for those with combat experience.
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June 14, 2005
HEH
What was
this guy thinking, giving an anti-US graduation speech to soldiers and their family members? If you're taking classes in Europe, you must be a military ID card holder, so every single UMUC student is connected to the miltary in some way or another. The faculty, however, is a different story altogether, which explains why he got supportive emails from faculty and boos from students in attendance.
Why do these commencement speakers keep using graduation as an open soapbox for talk on the war? All grads want to hear is attaboys and words of wisdom as they leave college. They want Chicken Soup for the Soul, not MoveOn.org at their ceremony.
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I don't know what he said in his speech, but his quote here irked me “I think in the best tradition of an academic, you tell facts and talk about reality,” he said. “I wanted to tell them because they’re not aware of what’s going on in Europe. I’m deeply concerned about it.”
That's an insult. Basically he is saying those that just graduated are ignorant. Just because someone has a different opinion it doesn't mean, they don't know what is going on. What a jack*ss.
Posted by: CaliValleyGirl at June 14, 2005 07:23 AM (mtLtz)
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I saw that headline as I was leaving the commisary today, and came home to check out the story online. I promptly sent the link to everyone back home - informing them that if they were ever in attendance and something like this happened, that I would expect them to walk out, as well. That is just unreal. And to think that UMUC wouldn't even exist were it not for the Soldiers & their families that support it over here.
Posted by: Susan at June 14, 2005 02:41 PM (D22rC)
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One of the more disheartening quotes was from the Golembe (Director of Univ Maryland Univ Coll Eur - saying the speech fell 'squarely' in the college tradition! Sick, sick, sick. I'm getting pretty dang tired of the left wing idealogues and their anti-American crud. They are so ignorant. I know they think they are the elite intelligencia but I think not.
Who is John Galt?
Posted by: toni at June 14, 2005 09:46 PM (PP3W1)
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What a completely pompous @ss he is. To think anyone there even gives two hoots what he thinks about world affairs when they are graduating from college! These speakers need to stop taking themselves so seriously or the colleges will soon find that no one shows up at the ceremonies... and they'll demand their grad fees back for not attending.
Personally - I'd hit UM in the pocket book and tell them if they feel this is the type of speaker they want for their graduates... then you don't feel you should contribute to continuing that little tradition and they can beg for money elsewhere. Sheesh!
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June 03, 2005
DEVALUED
Since the end of OIF II, I have seen a lot of things happen with medals and badges and patches. I used to think it was cool when my husband collected ribbons, but now I am starting to see why
Bunker said to throw 'em in a drawer and forget it. I've heard way too many stories about soldiers who deserved ribbons but didn't get them and soldiers who didn't deserve ribbons but got them. Platoon leaders and platoon sergeants spend an extraordinary amount of time not on deciding who deserves medals but working on the grammar and presentation of the citation. And I'm sure some have been approved over others just because someone's grammar was better. In just three months, I've become disillusioned with the medal process, which is sad because I think they should be something to be proud of.
I also thought the CCB was cool because I thought those who were not infantry deserved some credit too. Slowly I'm beginning to see what a mess it will be. Now it's a CAB, eligible to...um...everyone? How do you decide who is eligible? It's for anyone who engages or is engaged by the enemy; what a mess that's going to be to give out. Nearly everyone will get one, making the award virtually worthless.
Just leave well enough alone, I'm beginning to think. I liked this post from Watch Your Six (also check out the comic strip):
Didn't anyone learn from giving berets to the entire Army in order to make everyone feel "more elite?" The very act of giving the beret to everyone devalued the beret itself. If you give a badge to everyone involved in ground combat, the CIB and the new badges you make up will all be de-valued. The very act of trying to make people feel more special will make them feel less special.
We're running out of drawer space; quit giving out more things to throw in 'em.
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too many stories about soldiers who deserved ribbons but didn't get them and soldiers who didn't deserve ribbons but got them."
Unfortunately this isn't a new trend. Hackworth in
About Face described this similar trend in the Korean War, but I'm sure it far pre-dates that conflict. One incident (p256-257) described is of field-grade and general officers being in Hackworth's location during an enemy attack and that "The presence of a General Officer in an area that was being continually shelled was an inspiration to all troops." Of course, this 'enemy attack' was some indirect fire (usually a light shelling) and Hackworth & company were hunkered in their fortified bunkers and thus not necessarily exposed to harm. Utter B.S.
Similarly described are also incidents of awards being downgraded and worthy solders not being recognized. The awards process and the 'politics' of awards are a two-edged sword. Absolutely necessary to recognize the accomplishments of the individual soldier, but at the same time despicable.
* For what it's worth, I'd highly recommend David Hackworth's
About Face. The novel describes many aspects great leadership in battle and some of the attributes that make soldiers just plain great.
Posted by: GoldenBear at June 03, 2005 02:50 PM (bk2S/)
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What about being promoted too quickly. I swear, that my bf's unit has more captains than 1LTs...
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Golden Bear is right about this not being a new thing. I think they're just coming out with more of them now because it's easier and cheaper to make the ribbons and badges than it used to be.
It's pretty sad that just about every award ends up being devalued in this way. The Army beret is one of the best examples and made me cringe when they did it. It seems like making people "feel good" is way more important to the upper command than awarding honors for the best people.
I hope, for all our sakes, the "best of the best" really love their jobs enough that they don't get too bent about whether or not they get special awards.
Posted by: Teresa at June 03, 2005 03:38 PM (nAfYo)
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Cali: Promotion to captain is a fairly automatic event at about 3.5 years in service. It's not really *that* merit based, so I'm not sure if it's quite the same thing.
The way I understand it, there are a lot of extra captains in Germany for two reasons: 1) the wait for command is about 2.5 years and 2) stop loss/move trapped a lot of lieutenants here who became captains in Iraq and haven't yet gotten to go to the career course. Since the promotions are automatic, if people are stuck in one place, all LTs will eventually become CPTs...
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I'm not quite sure how the Army works, but it is only logical that there will be more O-3s than LTs. Most officers spend no more than 4 years as a Lieutenant, but somewhere around 7-9 as a Captain.
Of course, in the USAF flying community, it seems like everyone is a Captain.
Posted by: Breaker at June 03, 2005 08:32 PM (4q2mR)
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Medals are just formality, snoopy stars, and if one thinks that you are more valued because you got them, then you need some counseling or somthing. Sometimes, they give awards based on a quota system, and it has just about always been that way. Not to say that all meritorious acts are not rewarded either. The military, after all, is a institution, and it's acting exactly like one. The same people with the EIB badges are still going to be the same people at the unemployment office somewhere down the line.
Posted by: nerdstar at June 05, 2005 01:23 AM (eRq+v)
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....and then we have the hitchhikers. The chairborne rangers who go outside the wire once or twice during an entire deployment and suck up space on a mission where they don't belong for the sole purpose of qualifying for a CIB.
Of course, those are only the missions where they can stay in the hummer only popping out to take a picture or two, back at the fob in time for a hot meal and a warm bed. They tend to avoid the missions where the soldiers trek on foot through villages or mountains, awake for hours on end with nothing between them and the enemy but a vest and some plates, finally sleeping in the snow or the mud or the sand.
I'm at the point that I wish they'd dump them all. Not because the Soldiers walk the walk don't deserve recognition, they definitely do, but because of those who abuse the system and put others at a greater risk while doing it.
It's bad enough with the CIB..what's it going to be with the CAB?
On a side note..I'm still ticked off about the beret.
Posted by: Tink at June 05, 2005 02:48 PM (S6VXg)
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If you are close enough to fire your weapon at the enemy.. or hear the sound of bullets going by..
I'd say at least the same conditions as the CIB.. MP's on convoy duty are pretty much in combat from what I've heard...
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""It's bad enough with the CIB..what's it going to be with the CAB?
On a side note..I'm still ticked off about the beret.
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Oddly.. most of the soldiers I've talked too who got them ain't too thrilled either...
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May 30, 2005
BRICK
I had the chance to briefly instant message with
Mrs. Sims today. She sent me the most wonderful Memorial Day photo of her son and his father's memorial brick at Texas A&M.

I think about Mrs. Sims all the time. She and I weren't even that close; we went to dinner a few times together, but that's about the extent of our friendship. I hesitate to write about how much she is constantly in my thoughts because I'm certain there are people on this post she was closer to. I don't want her to think that I've become some zany stalker who's deified her into everything that Memorial Day stands for...but I guess I have.
Mrs. Sims is absolutely everything that an Army wife should be: gracious, humble, and dedicated. She remains optimistic and proud in the face of the worst experience anyone could ever have. And she's always on my mind. She's the first person I think of when I feel down or grumpy. She was the first person my husband and I thought of when our cruise tablemates were being obtuse. And she was the first person I thought of when I woke up this Memorial Day.
You see, the Memorial Day post I wanted to write is how much the Sims family is always present in our household. It took that photo of their son to get the words to come out.
I'm sure Mrs. Sims feels weird about the pedestal I've put her on. She's just a regular person dealing with an extraordinary challenge. I hesitated to write the post I wanted to because I don't want to exacerbate her pain. But I want her to know how I really feel, that to me she's everything that Memorial Day represents: the day when we remember those who gave up everything for our country. And I am keenly aware, every day, that CPT Sims gave his life for the very freedom I enjoy. I want her to know that I will never forget that, as long as I live. I never knew her husband, but I will never forget him. Even if she and I drift apart, I will remember the Sims family on Memorial Day and every other day for the rest of my life.
I will remember.
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Dear Sarah,
Beautifully said. I, too, think of the Sims family often, and I didn't know them at all. This is why it's important for you to write, Sarah. You are our voice; you convey the message to the Sims family and all the families who have lost loved ones, saying things to them that we feel, but never have the opportunity to say to them. May God bless all of our military families today and everyday, those serving and those at home. Yes, we will remember.
Love,
Your Mama
Posted by: Nancy at May 30, 2005 12:40 PM (UyF3I)
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Sarah,
I am not your mama, but I am certainly proud of you, and of your way of saying what so many of us feel.
You may not know, but you were in my mind in much the same way all the while you waited for your husband. I remember WWII and my uncles and cousins were away in the war. I know what you went through, as much as anyone could imagine it. Thanks, you too, are a hero. Ruth
Posted by: Ruth H at May 30, 2005 05:09 PM (Fk2Vt)
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Sarah,
Whatever words are in your heart, you must speak them.people need to hear or read them. They want to know that there are people that are grateful for the sacrifices made by love ones that are no longer in this world.As a daughter of a retired
Air Force services member and the mother of a 1AD
Soldier stationed in Germany, I never go through a day without thinking of those that gave the ultimate gift, so that I might have a life of Freedom and Happiness, and always, always, their families are right in the middle of my thoughts.
I can't really call them thoughts, they're prayers. Prayer's of thanksgiving. I want them all to know how grateful I am that they lived and breathed and they made a difference in my life, even if they didn't know me. I know them and I know what they gave up, and I will never forget, not ever....Thank You........
Posted by: Beth at May 30, 2005 07:38 PM (lZ8lX)
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Very nice...especially since the finger is pointing to my buddy Clayton Williams!
Posted by: Wallace-Midland Texas at May 31, 2005 12:28 PM (e/Kh6)
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Sarah,
You have said it very well for all of us. We Aggies find the sacrifices of our soldiers particularly inspiring to us. But it takes mostly the former students to recognize the tremendous sacrifice Mrs. Sims has made. (Something about marriage and kids makes that happen).
Mrs. Sims, you have our deep and undying affection, and our love for you and your family is strong. Sean symbolizes the "burning desire" to beat the hell out of tyranny and injustice in the world. And you are our inspiration for trying to do so. God bless you and Sarah for being who you are, and for giving us former students faith in the future of the country. Because we are always Aggies. Because we are always true to each other as Aggies can be. We're from Texas AMC.
You have my undying respect.
Subsunk
Class of '80
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MEMORIAL
There's a fundamental difference between last year's Memorial Day and this one, a difference that I have been dwelling on all weekend:
last year I didn't have any veterans to mourn.
I've thought all weekend about what I wanted to say today, but in the end, my heart just doesn't want to articulate the words. I'm thinking them though, and I'm remembering today. And I'm grateful for every day I have with my own soldier.

This is a memorial to every soldier our post lost last year. I will never forget any of them.
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This Memorial Day has been like no other . . . thanks for remembering.
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AWASH
Smash's story, though creepy, is vaguely familiar:
JANUARY 2003 – It’s been couple of weeks since my reserve unit arrived in Kuwait, and we’ve just finished negotiating with the port authority to take over an abandoned building to serve as the administrative headquarters for our harbor security operation.
The building hasn’t been used in several years, so before we can move in we have a lot of cleaning and repairing to do. Everyone pitches in – soldiers and sailors, officers and enlisted work side-by-side to clean up over a decade’s worth of dust, grime, and general neglect. But despite all the activity, the hallways remain strangely quiet.
A yeoman is on her knees, scrubbing a particularly difficult stain in the stairwell. She decides to break the uncomfortable silence with a little bit of small talk. “Whoever worked in this building before sure was lazy,” she sighs. “Who would spill a whole pot of coffee on the stairs, and not clean it up?”
Everyone stops working, and stares at her.
“What?” she asks, looking around. “What did I say?”
“That’s not coffee,” one of her co-workers whispers.
“It’s not? What is it?”
“Blood.”
Apparently the room my husband used to email me from, the room I stared at whenever we had the chance to webcam, was awash in blood when the first American soldiers got there. My husband's camp in Iraq was an old Fedayeen camp.
We can hardly fathom things outside of our experience. A young American in the Navy would never imagine that she was cleaning up after a slaughter. I can't even begin to picture what a room covered in blood would look like. It's so beyond anything I've ever dealt with.
But it's so outside all of our realms. That's why when you do a Google Images search of Saddam+torture, you end up with photos of Lynndie England on the same page as a photo of "Saddam's henchmen amputating fingers". Torture is so far out of our realm that we conflate dog leashes and finger vises; most of us can't really imagine true torture. The Abu Ghraib thing is as bad as we get, but it's nowhere near as bad as things can get.
It's good that we live in a society where we don't have to regularly clean blood off of the stairs. But it sometimes prevents us from imagining that other cultures don't live with the naivete that we do.
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Sarah - you are right. The problem is people inflate things like pictures from Abu Graib to be TORTURE when in reality is was humiliation. So if you compare humiliation and call it torture - people get a warped view of what real torture is. It downplays the horrors of real torture.
Posted by: Kathleen A at May 29, 2005 10:20 AM (vnAYT)
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My thanks to you for your service as I recall past and current military who have and are protecting our nation.
Posted by: Pat in NC at May 29, 2005 12:28 PM (pN8n1)
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Excellent points, Sarah. Thanks!
And please tell Mrs. Sims we are thinking of her, and her husband who gave all.
Posted by: Beth at May 29, 2005 02:40 PM (h2KYG)
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I frankly do not care if what we did is not as bad as it could be. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN THAT, PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION. It is a real damned short step from sanctioning the "hi-jinks", as some conservative twits called it, to sanctioning the level of abuse that Saddam inflicted on his people. I for one think our chain-of-command has failed us as a people, when it comes to the topic of abuse. Allow me to clarify: by chain of command I refer not to the "grunts" in the field, but rather the civilian portion, that is where the responsibility ultimately lies.
Posted by: Bubba Bo Bob Brain at May 29, 2005 06:37 PM (aHbua)
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What the hell are you talking about Bubba? The army had already started an investigation of abu graib before the picture appeared in the papers. The few involved have been or are facing punishment for violating orders(read the UCMJ).We are better because we don't tolerate such behavior. ( I also wonder about one of the individuals involve being a PA prison guard in "real" life ).Was it torture-no, was it mis treatment of prisoners- yes. Was it a policy to mistreat prisoners- barring evidence to contrary- no. Was it poor leadership of subordinate personnel by superiors( local command)-yes.Has the civilian administration of the military taken steps to punish and clarify that this is not how we treat prisoners.yes.
Posted by: thomas D at May 31, 2005 09:25 PM (L7wiW)
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Thomas D., wake up and smell the bullshit. I don't know how old you are, but this looks like a repeat of My Lai to me. Lt. Calley was the "cut-out" man, that is the guy whom if you take him out you can go no further in an investigation. The "cut-out" man in this fiasco was obviously Gen. Karpinski. So the American public will never know the whole truth now, which I think we are entitled to. You probably still believe the bullshit the government and the Army first tried to run by us regarding the death of Pat Tillman don't you.
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The cut-out man (woman) is a Brigadier-General? Are you nuts? Well, obviously, yes.
Unfortunately, there
has been worse than Abu Ghraib; for example the two prisoners who died in custody in Bagram in Afghanistan. Again, though, the military have investigated and brought charges against those involved. Bad things will happen because there are some bad people in the military just as there are elswhere, but we do
not look the other way.
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May 18, 2005
PERSPECTIVE
I've heard several military families say that they prefer to live off-post because they don't want to feel the presence of the military 24 hours a day. I, however, have enjoyed living right in the thick of things ever since my husband began his military career. We've always been on-post, and we've lived in very isolated military settings, such as the Officer Basic Course and then Germany. I had never really thought about the omnipresence of the military until we went on this vacation. This was our first time away from the military, for every other time we've taken vacation, we've gone to visit family. It was our first experience being surrounded by civilian strangers, and I must say it was unnerving.
The first thing that happens when you meet someone on a cruise is that they ask where you're from. This is the most complicated question you can ask someone in the military. Where are we all from? We started trying to simplify things by just saying we're from Missouri, but then we often ended up having this conversation:
Strangers: So, where are you all from?
Groks: Um, Missouri.
Strangers: Great. What do you do there in Missouri?
Grok: Um, well, we don't actually live in Missouri; we live in Germany.
Strangers: Oh...well, what do you do there?
Grok: We're there with the military...
This either led to awkward silence or awkward questions. Maybe we were talking to all the wrong people, but we didn't get the sort of insightful or curious conversations I was expecting. When we told our dinner-tablemates on the cruise that we were living in Germany with the military, we didn't expect them to virtually ignore us. We talked at length about their jobs and backgrounds, but they didn't ask questions about Germany or Iraq. When the husband and I went back to our room, we discussed how we had braced ourselves to answer all sorts of questions about military life and deployment that never came.
The biggest thing that I learned about myself on our vacation was that I found I really missed the perspective that military life brings. We deal with things that are so far outside of the civilian experience that everything else seems trivial. A military family would never ask someone where he's from, because we know how often that changes. A military family would never say that it would be terrible to live on St. Maarten because we've seen that the poverty and problems of Iraq and Afghanistan far surpass those on Caribbean islands. A military family would never complain about a five-hour plane ride because we've all seen the mothers traveling alone with three kids, moving them across the Atlantic to meet up with their soldier. And a military family would never ever say that working on a cruise ship must be one of the hardest jobs out there because they work such long hours and don't get to have any fun. (Seriously, we had to bite our cheeks to keep from laughing out loud at that one. If we could be so lucky to get "deployed" to a cruise ship!)
And military couples share one suitcase when they go on a 7-day cruise. I've never seen so much excessive luggage.
I found myself quite the fish out of water on this trip, and I longed to go back to where everyone understood us. I never realized how much the Army has become my comfort zone, and I'm quite happy to be back to where everyone wears BDUs.
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Welcome back to the real world!
I am always amazed at how little civilians know about the military. Even those who spent four years in then got out seem to forget wuickly.
Posted by: Bunker at May 18, 2005 07:49 AM (pzzx0)
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Welcome back!
I grew up in ultra-liberal Massachusetts, and what did my father do? He built ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic [Nuclear] Missiles).
Posted by: David Boxenhorn at May 18, 2005 02:57 PM (XUVN1)
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay! I missed you so much.
Posted by: CaliValleyGirl at May 18, 2005 03:15 PM (3RSki)
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Sarahk,
I've been visiting your site every day, as I always do, and I'm happy to see you back. I didn't have time to post last night, but I did link to this post at the top of my blog. More linkage to come when I go home.
David,
Now your secret's out! How could you live with the s-shame?
Posted by: Amritas at May 18, 2005 03:49 PM (+nV09)
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Sarah -
Glad you checked in.
Amen on the long silence that follows when you tell most civilians "We're in the Army". Funny thing is: let two GIs meet for the first time in an airport somewhere and they will chat as if best friends for three hours about Iraq, BRAC, Basic Training, commissaries, war movies and the quirks of learning to live in Germany, Italy, Thailand, Korea, Japan, DoDDS Schools, Texas weather, the time they pulled hurricane search and rescue duty and how much better AFN is now than it used to be.
Might it be that most folks know so little of the military that they are clueless how to follow up that answer? I bet it is the same sort of cluelessness that was revealed to me whenever folks who just came on post for a tour or their nephews graduation from AIT can't seem to quit talking about "just what polite, good cleancut Americans" these soldiers are. Excuse me...your expectations are showing...you were thinking perhaps that the military is comprised of the type soldiers Newsweek and CBS seem to favor for coverage?
And Bingo on the where ya from question. After a few years in the Army I permanently changed the question "Where ya from ORIGINALLY?"
That helps some...still is rough on Army brats though.
Hi to Mr. Grok. Love to you both.
And CPT Patti (STILL the Sweetest Woman on the Planet) says hi!
Posted by: Tim at May 18, 2005 04:01 PM (hby1v)
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Most people are only interested in talking about themselves. What they wanted was for YOU to ask them about their lives... Unfortunately - it sounds like none of the people you were traveling with or meeting were of the inquisitive sort. In other words - interested in learning about something other than their own little world.
A good answer to the civilian question of where are you from... "we're a military family, we currently live in Germany, but are originally from Missouri". This gives them all the info they need to either ask you more about where you live - or (more likely) tell you about all the places they've lived... or be rude and turn away (something that happens in the civilian world too... way too often).
I don't think I could do a cruise though... it just gives me the willies thinking of getting on a boat packed in with all those people. *grin* I know there are advantages - but I prefer to go to a hotel and just hang out with my husband - even if it means I see a bit less of the world.
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Grok:
Nice, but I think you've taken this liking of military life too far. You've got to be flexible, as my drill sgt. used to say. Civilian or military, people are people, you know? There are good and bad with every styles of life. I never tell other folks that I was in Iraq unless asked, I've seen too many people trying to take advantage of that status. Sure, I was there, done what I was supposed to do, so let's move on, you know?
Posted by: nerdstar at May 18, 2005 06:19 PM (ccm++)
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I gotta say that "Where are you from?" thing always makes me laugh.
Just answer them, "I've lived on every continent but Anartica and Australia. In tents, in hotels, in palaces, and under the stars--wishing I had a tent, hotel, or palace.... Where you from??"
Most times you get questions about what you do etc... Makes a great ice breaker. Plus, you can tell about your heroic expoits later ;-)
I have found most well travelled people have never actually travelled. They've "been there" but haven't "done that"!
Posted by: Jamie at May 18, 2005 10:16 PM (yDBbJ)
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On a side note....
I went on a recent TDY and took a backpack (with my laptop, clothes and uniforms). Never occurred to me to take more? You mean people don't roll their clothes???
Posted by: Jamie at May 18, 2005 10:23 PM (yDBbJ)
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When asked "Where are your from?" I always answer "Where did I grow up or where did I last live?" That usually throws them enough to stop and think about it - then they want to know where I've lived and if I know where I am going to next. (Right now the Canary Islands with the hubby would be good). The mantra is only 6 months to R&R...only 6 months to R&R).
Household6
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"Deployments" for cruise ships?
hmmmm*jotting down*
Must have Dear husband try and get one of these AWFUL assignments.
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Perhaps the "civilians" were shy to ask about your positions with the military because of their perception of the military or something negative they had read... Perhaps they accept what you do the same as police or fire personnel?
I see it as our jobs (within the military community) to correct misconceptions and educate the civilian population, not just sit back and marvel at the lack of inquisitiveness on their part. If the American public has a lot to learn or re-learn about the fine state of our services, then we (as a community) have a lot to teach.
Posted by: Some Soldier's Mom at May 21, 2005 11:28 AM (8Burp)
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After all the traveling to wherever you've been, isn't it great to get "home" again? Because "home" is wherever you and your love half lay your head at night, secure in the comfort that you are each there for each other, and your bed is "home" in Germany. Because, in your military life, home is where you go to work, go to sleep, and go to live and love.
Yeah, my cruises were a little different than deployment to Iraq and sailing the Caribbean waiting on cruise liner guests. A lot less space, and a lot longer underwater. We would have killed something just to be able to see our girls and kids, and follow it off with a beer. If you stay in the military till retirement, you'll remember how bad things COULD have been till the last breath leaves your body. Everything after Iraq is gravy, and worth savoring.
So welcome "home", Sarah and husband. We are all glad to have you back. Thanks for sharing the vacation with us.
Subsunk
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I am disappointed with 'those' people. I would expect them to ask if you were in Iraq and how was it for both of you and go from there. At the very minimum for them to thank you both for your service. Timmmmmm. Hiiiiii.
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Well..as a life long civilian who has lived in
peace,freedom and utter blissful security in the
same small Indiana town her whole life (save for
college) I am shocked to read your comments. I
NEVER fail to say "Thank you for serving our
country." when I meet a member of the finest
military in the world. Past,present and even
future (kids with delayed enlistment) soldiers
and sailors ALL get my respect and gratitude.
I know darned well how BLESSED I am to be a
citizen of these United States of America.
NOW....the only thing I truly do NOT get about
your post S,is the one suitcase for 2 people
thing!! GOOD HEAVENS WOMAN! It's vacation,treat
yourself to your OWN bag.

Glad that you are both back safe and sound.
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April 10, 2005
ANNIVERSARIES
Yesterday morning, my husband asked me what the date was: it was the first of the big three anniversaries this week, the days when my husband saw his heaviest fighting and for which he earned a pretty green ribbon to wear on his dress blues. Last night we went to his former company commander's house and had a Baqubah Bash to celebrate the event, complete with the most hooah American movie we could think of:
Rocky IV. I checked what I was doing a year ago, and sure enough I was blogging about troop movements and nervousness. I also posted one of my
favorite photos from Iraq.
Last night we had a talk about Adrian Balboa; I don't really like her. My husband said he kind of understands that she just wants what's best for Rocky, but I say that if you marry a fighter, you can't force him to change. And in Rocky IV, he fought for a principle, not for a title. You have to stand by someone who fights for what he believes in. My husband asked if I would still be proud of him if he were a civilian working for some company, and I said that of course I would. But it's different. Am I more proud of my husband for being a soldier and fighting for something he believes in? Of course. But only incrementally; he would still believe in the same things even if he didn't have the opportunity to fight for them. Adrian told Rocky that lots of people live with pain, to which he replied that not everyone has the opportunity to do something about it.
I can't believe it's been one year since some of the most important events in my husband's life. I'm glad that he had the opportunity to fight for something he believes in, and I'm glad that he came home safe to me when he was done.
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HEAVY HEART
Please keep CaliValleyGirl in mind today: the Chinook that crashed in Afghanistan was from her soldier's unit. Say a prayer or
visit her and give her strength as she lives through casualty notification day.
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Please keep us updated as well. What a sad day. I hope her boyfriend wasn't on the helicopter, but my love and prayers to all who were, and to their loved ones.
Posted by: Rachel Ann at April 06, 2005 12:56 PM (jG2ss)
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I was going to leave her a comment - but I don't have a blogger account. My son is there too - a Crew Chief... it's been a really long day today.
Posted by: Teresa at April 06, 2005 06:24 PM (nAfYo)
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My love and prayers are with her and those waiting with her.
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My prayers are with CaliValleyGirl and Teresa during this difficult time. I just can't even imagine the agony of waiting.
Trying to Grok's Mom
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