I just thought I'd recap some of my experiences, which aren't that far off from what Crowder went through in Canada. A "greatest hits," if you will, of the past two years of my life.
I wish my husband wasn't unreachable in Afghanistan, because he has some good stories too. I seem to remember him needing a physical a while back and thinking he had a 7 AM appointment. It turns out that 7 AM was just the cattle call: every soldier who needed a physical that day turned up at 7 AM to sit and wait his turn. I remember him saying there was a sign in the room that said something to the effect of "Have a seat; this WILL take all day." Heh.
Sean Hannity expressed surprise that Crowder had to take a number like it was a butcher shop or something. We take a number so often in the military life that I didn't even bat an eye at that. In fact, I take a number every week when I go in to get my bloodwork done.
In my experience, I have had trouble getting actual human beings to answer my questions and give me the help I need. Last year when I had Miscarriage #2:
I went home. And the next day, which was Friday,
I was supposed to get a phone consultation with the doctor and a
prescription filled. I called at 10 AM and left a message. I called
at noon and left another message on a different machine. An hour
later, I got a call back from one nurse, saying she'd follow up and
make sure my prescription got filled. At 2 PM, I called the advice
nurse and asked if she knew what was going on. At 3:30, the advice
nurse goes home. At 4:20, no one is answering the phones in reception
any more. At 4:30, you can no longer leave messages on voicemail. I
called the pharmacy: no prescription had been called in. And now it
was the weekend. My mother said, "You mean NO ONE is available to help
you on the weekend?"
My mother was freaking out. "This is how things work for you? You
haven't talked to a human being all day long, just answering
machines!" But for me, this was totally normal. I never talk to human
beings when I call the hospital. I don't even know how to call a human
being, save the advice nurse. In fact, that's why I called her in the
afternoon, just because she's the only human being I know how to
reach! My mom was shocked that someone, anyone!, didn't call me during
the day to let me know what was going on.
My husband called from Iraq at 5:15 PM to see how things were going.
Five minutes later, the doctor beeped in. I had to hang up with my
husband from Iraq to talk to the doctor! If that doesn't suck, I don't
know what does.
Sometimes I've had trouble getting an actual human being to remember I'm being cared for. During Miscarriage #1, they wheeled my hospital bed back to the ultrasound room, and when they were done, they left me in the hallway and said somebody would take me back to the ER. Well, somebody forgot. They left me lying there alone in a hallway after just telling me my baby was dead for an hour. I begged anyone who walked by me to call someone to come get me, but still no one came.
Waiting...yep, I'm familiar with it.
A few months ago I went to the weekend clinic because I thought I might have strep throat. I had an appointment but still had to wait an hour past my appointment time to be seen. He looked at my throat, said he would test for strep, and sent me home. I was to call in 48 hours for the results, and if it was strep, they would then give me antibiotics. I called two days later and got an answering machine that said to leave a message and someone would call me back with my results within 48 hours. Two more days later, they called and said I didn't have strep. By that time, my symptoms had pretty much gone away, but thank heavens I didn't have strep, because then I would've had to go back in to get the meds. Four days to let me know if I had strep. The reason I went in on the weekend is because I deal with children in my job and didn't want to pass strep to them.
And we have the Canadian-style waiting that Crowder experienced. I had to go to the ER on a Friday night back in January:
Since it was a Friday night and I wouldn't be able to reach my
doctor or nurse until Monday, we decided we'd better head to the ER.
Luckily we ate dinner first, because we had no idea what we were in for.
I expected to be there until midnight. I didn't expect to be there
until 4:30 AM. During that time, I had less than ten minutes of actual
medical care -- take blood pressure, ask about my symptoms, quick
pelvic exam -- and was eventually told...drumroll..."Geez, I don't know
anything about fertility stuff, so just call your doctor Monday
morning."
In the meantime, while we were sitting around all night, I also wrote about the family next to us:
The gist is that the daughter had a chronic problem that had been
happening for months. The parents were separated and the mother was
"too lazy" to make the kid an appointment. The dad said that he works
here in the hospital and had asked colleagues about his daughter's
problem, but since it persisted, they wanted to have it checked out.
On a Friday night. In the ER.
There was no emergency, no sudden change in her condition that made
them feel that treatment was necessary, nothing like that. This dad
just brought his three kids in to spend the night in the ER. My husband
and I were there for eight hours, until 5 AM, and this family had
arrived before us and was still there when we left.
That is not an emergency.
This family was clogging up the ER and making me and, more importantly,
other people with more pressing problems wait longer. They were sapping
resources. If you work in the hospital, can't you find the time to make
an appointment for your daughter? Why are you taking care of a child's
chronic health problem in the middle of the night on a Friday?
Because you don't have to pay anything either way, that's why.
Why make a regular doctor's appointment during the week, and have to
ask for time off work and take the kid out of school, when you could
just bring everyone to camp out in the ER all night. There is no cost
difference, so it's just easier to do it off hours.
No wonder it took me so long to be seen. And I feel even worse for the
guy with the gall stones; he really would've liked to have been treated
faster.
I am sure that this family isn't the only one of its kind. They bog
down the system for all of us. A problem that's been going on for three
months is not something that requires ER care on a weekend. Make a
normal appointment and free up that ER doctor for someone who really
needs him.
And that, I think, is the crux of the problem. We don't pay for any of our care, so for most people, it's easier to take care of things on nights and weekends than it is to do it during the week. What's the difference, we don't pay either way. And I'm guilty of abusing the system as well: if I had had to pay $100 to go in and find out if I had strep or not, I probably wouldn't have. I would've taken a cough drop and dealt with it. But I used resources because they were free.
Or at least, free to me. Somebody paid.
After Miscarriage #2, the doctor was telling me my options. These words actually came out of his mouth: "Well, we could do another D&C surgery, but that costs the taxpayers an awful lot of money, so maybe you could consider miscarrying naturally?"
Don't let anyone tell you that medical decisions won't be made based on cost once the government is in charge. I have already experienced it firsthand in the military system.
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AWTM, can you imagine if Sarah were mentioned on Glenn Beck? "Here's a story by a military wife who's experienced socialized medicine firsthand ..." Then he reads part of her post. And what if that clip were immortalized on YouTube?
Posted by: Amritas at July 21, 2009 01:02 PM (+nV09)
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When I worked in a MN clinic we had numerous Canadian patients that paid out-of-pocket for cardiac surgery because they had been put on several year waiting lists in Canada.
2-3 years to wait for open-heart surgery? I can't even begin to say how ridiculous that is.
AWTM, I hope he reads it too!
Posted by: Susan at July 21, 2009 01:10 PM (Y8ZGj)
I called my insurance company to ask which ER I should go to because I was having chest pain (from indigestion) they told me to dial 911. Which I was not going to do in the city. I took a cab instead. People had been waiting for so long they were ordering Chinese food and having it delivered to the ER waiting room.
But on the other hand when I was pregant and they thought it might be ectopic I got an emergency appt that day with the head of the practice (my friend who is a doc at that hospital was shocked they didn't give me to an intern), plus a trans vaginal and a regular ultrasound that day. No waiting.
I bitch about how expensive my insurance is but I will gladly pay for it.
5Don't let anyone tell you that medical decisions won't be made based on cost once the government is in charge.
Shhhh, Sarah, don't give away our game!
We think of all the money wasted on caring for Omegas, even Gammas and Betas. There are millions and millions of you and so few of us Alphas. If our freeee healthcare harms or even kills some lesser Omericans, we don't care. We can always import millions more from Mexico. And we are sure millions of Afghans and Iraqis would love to join our forces when they flee the Middle East. Imagine your tax dollars paying for Taliban freedom fighter healthcare in your town! Only we elites deserve the best treatments - funded by you. The rest are expendable.
"Half of China may well have to die" - Mao
To keep costs down, we could license 'doctors' from fly-by-night
medical 'schools'. Maybe even a few witch doctors. Literally. Anyone
who objects must be anti-diversity and arrested by the civilian
security fOrce. Omerica will only be following in the footsteps of South Africa:
A sangoma is a practitioner of herbal medicine, divination and counselling in traditional Nguni (Zulu, Xhosa, Ndebele and Swazi) societies of Southern Africa (effectively an African shaman) ... Public health specialists are now enlisting sangomas in the fight against the spread of HIV/AIDS ...
Sangomas far outnumber western-style doctors in Southern Africa, and
are consulted first (or exclusively) by approximately 80% of the
indigenous population.
Just imagine ... socialist sangomas! You'll pay for them, and yet they'll be 'free'!
Posted by: kevin at July 21, 2009 01:54 PM (+nV09)
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Sarah, each of your stories shocked me when I read them in isolation, but
... when they're compiled into one post ...
... when I realize that you're not an exception, that there are many others who've gone through the same things ... or worse ...
I don't know what to say other than "no" to socialized medicine.
There are things I admire about the military, but this is definitely not one of them!
Posted by: Amritas at July 21, 2009 02:39 PM (+nV09)
At our hospital, folks would go to the ER because for non-emergent, but still urgent care that they needed to be seen for they couldn't get an appointment within two weeks to be seen. I'd call and say I need an appointment for my 1 year old who has a 104 degree fever. They'd say, "Hmmm... let's look at Peds. We have an appointment for a month from tomorrow. Will that work?" Well of course that wouldn't work. When I finally, 6 months in, came to terms with the fact that I had PPD, it was a month before I could get in to see my doctor. That was a LONG month.
So on base here, people would go to the ER for non-emergent care because the clinics couldn't or wouldn't see us in a timely manner. It was the only way we could be seen sometimes! And so yeah--you gotta believe the works were junked up.
And then don't get me started on the restrictions they impose on making appointments. You have to call at the right time--beause after the doctor releases their schedule, it's filled up for a month within two days, but if you call for a regular care appointment that you know you're going to need a month or even 2 weeks early to be sure you'll get in they'll say, "I'm sorry. We can't make appointments out that far."
So that's my experience. And, like you, because of my experience with military medicine, though God knows the 'price' has been a Godsend for us, I am firmly AGAINST universalized medicine--and that's even considering my lefty leanings.
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I tell people all the time that yeah it'd be nice if everyone had healthcare but they DO.NOT.WANT. what we get. My doctor in bootcamp held an x-ray of my leg up to the ceiling light while he was seated at his desk and told me my leg wasn't broken (it was, in two places). Then he scheduled my next appointment for while he was on leave, which I only found out after I walked a mile and a half on the still broken leg to the clinic the day of my appointment. When I stood there in tears from the pain and asked the receptionist if I could see a different doctor, I was told no because he WAS my doctor. And what was I supposed to do? It's not like I could take my business elsewhere or complain to anybody who actually cared. It didn't even get casted for another five months when it was still broken and I failed my sea duty screening--which is the ONLY reason they allowed it to be casted. All told, three separate breaks and ten months to heal. Yeah, I want that for everybody!
Posted by: Ann M. at July 22, 2009 09:59 PM (+GQ3g)
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I've spent almost my entire life going to the Naval hospital here in town . . . I have a LOT of stories! I was safe and happy in the OB department, which seems to have its act together. I wanted to stay as far away from Family Practice (or whatever they call it now) as I could.
So far, my favorite doctors are the civilians who work there.
Posted by: Deltasierra at July 23, 2009 01:55 AM (unCAk)
I remember when developed a sinus infection right out of basic training and had that infection for eight months. Doctor after doctor refused to give me antibiotics. Most insisted that I would go into septic shock, even though I had antibiotics for various diseases my whole life. Some claimed that prescribing me antibiotics would cause my body to mutate into an antibiotic-resistant blob, consuming millions of innocent victims before a new strain could be found.
The prescription was constantly "just take some over the counter antihistamines." When I would begin to tolerate them, they would tell me to increase the dosages. I took OTC antihistamines for so long I started having terrible nightmares and sleep problems, psychological problems, tremors, sweats.
Finally after eight months, one single military doctor prescribed antibiotics. Within a week my nose had cleared up. Depending on who you talk to the psychological and sleep issues took several months to improve, some of my friends and family claim I am different to this day.
Posted by: Phang at July 23, 2009 06:37 PM (5YBfn)
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It's probably worth noting that the a significant portion of TriCare's customer base--the active duty military--is noticeably healthier on average than most of the citizenry. They had to be pretty healthy to get in, they have to stay pretty healthy (and pretty active) (and relatively thin) to stay in. And yet the stories I read (and have lived) demonstrate a level of care that many civilians would find absolutely unacceptable.
What happens when the same universal coverage is applied to the general civilian populace? Does anyone really think that their satisfaction with their health care is going to improve?
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My spouse was an Air Force doc until recently. It is really easy to view the military MD as an evil villian and civilian docs working for Tri- Care as heroes. But the civ docs are like any civ working on base...it is a pretty sweet gig .... you get the benefits of working for a system without having the lawyers breathing down your neck and often a lot of benefits usually reserved to military members with the added benefit of treating a patient population that MUST comply or at least will be pressured to.....WITHOUT having to answer to administrative command who hold your entire career and lives in their hand and without having to live with deployments, recalls and constant SNAFU politically based policy shifting. They punch in and punch out....something most docs working in the private sector can't even do. The worst thing for medical care is to make it totally free.....medicaid patients are horribly (and accurately) notorious for abusing and clogging up the medical system. Example: The guy who walked into my husband's ER with a rash at 2AM (!). When asked how long he had had it........A COUPLE OF MONTHS! nice...
Posted by: hillbilly mama at July 25, 2009 12:07 AM (REtDW)
What happens when the same universal coverage is applied to the general
civilian populace? Does anyone really think that their satisfaction
with their health care is going to improve?
Civilians can pretty much get away with being ignorant about the military but this is one instance where a lack of knowledge could lead to a lot of hurt. None of the arguments I've heard for socialized health care ever bring up the military, probably because those who make those arguments know nothing about the military.
hillbilly mama,
Thanks for writing,
It is really easy to view the military MD as an evil villain
My mother is a civilian who has worked with military medical personnel for years. Most are good, while some are ... not as good. However, that describes people in general. The problem is not "evil" MDs - military or civilian - but the pitfalls inherent in a 'free' government-run health care system.
Posted by: Amritas at July 25, 2009 01:56 AM (h9KHg)
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I will add that my military dentist in Germany was the best dentist I've ever had. The optometrist, not so much. I don't generally worry whether the doctor wears a uniform or not.
Posted by: Sarah at July 25, 2009 09:20 AM (TWet1)
I've been told by military Dr.s before that they don't care about their patients. They get paid the same amount whether or not they come in to work and even if they do their job right. They're not making the same money as civilian Dr.s, so why should they care.
They butchered my son in a surgery. They've told me for yrs that I'm depressed, etc so they don't have to waste time on me. Turns out that I'm not depressed, but have some major intestinal bacterial infection. They still after a yr. can't find what's causing it to continue. No one cares.
However, until the libs have their way with the health care, we're getting more civilian Dr.s in the military hospitals. They are paid more to care and you can clearly see the difference if you're lucky enough to see one.
Posted by: Lisa Keyser at July 25, 2009 12:29 PM (uvsIW)
I mean, do I have to do any more other than quote the first line of that article? Probably not, but here goes.
These are grown men and women whose only control over their own lives is the few minutes' enjoyment they might get from a cigarette. How dare you even consider taking that away from them? My own husband, decidedly not a smoker, enjoys a cigar or two downrange. It's stress relief. It's camaraderie. It's the one thing they have. You took their beer and now you want to take their smokes too? Are you insane?
I don't care if it's bad for you; free adults get to make choices that are bad for them. Period.
Repealing cigarettes would clear out the Army faster than repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell.
America can be disarmed literally -- by cutting our weapons systems and
our defensive capabilities -- as Mr. Obama has agreed to do.
She asked,
Does he really believe that the North Koreans and the Iranians are
simply waiting for America to cut funds for missile defense and reduce
our strategic nuclear stockpile before they halt their weapons programs?
We believe that. North Korean and Iran are only trying to defend themselves from an eeevil empire still full of Republicans. Sarah Palin may soon be out of office, but other enemies of the peOple are still clinging onto their thrones, perpetuating imperialist conflict in the Middle East against peaceful jihadis.
The war will only end when there are no more warriors. We will disarm them slowly. The list of haram items will continue to expand. Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. Meat. Bacon. Especially bacon.
"World's worst idea"? We're just getting started.
These are grown men and women whose only control over their own lives
is the few minutes' enjoyment they might get from a cigarette.
That's a few minutes too many. They should be under gOvernment control 24/7.
I don't care if it's bad for you; free adults get to make choices that are bad for them.
There are no free adults, only persyns free to obey the orders of their Great Leaders for their own gOOd.
Posted by: kevin at July 15, 2009 06:50 PM (h9KHg)
Just as a "Pentagon-commissioned report urges the Defense Department to ban smoking in the military", a Pentagram-commissioned report urges a ban on personnel in the military. All bases should be converted into welcoming areas for the jihadis who have sacrificed so much in the name of submission. (Free-dumb is soooo overrated.) An open borders policy and generous handOuts will insure that more of them will enrich our natiOn's diversity.
We realize that tax revenues are not infinite, and we must use them wisely. So instead of wasting "more than $800
million a year in lost productivity and health care expenses" due to "smoking and tobacco-related illnesses" among people who sacrifice everything for America, we should spend the money on peOple who really need it, like undocumented immigrants who showed up yesterday.
Mao ... was a gourmet, and had his favourite foods shipped in from all over the country ... A special fish from Wuhan that he liked had to be couriered alive 1,000 kilometres in a plastic bag filled with water and kept oxygenated ...
This farm was specially set up to grow rice for Mao, as the water there was supposed to be the very best. In the olden days the spring had supplied drinking water for the imperial courts. Now it fed Mao's rice paddies. The vegetables Mao liked, as well as poultry and milk, were produced in another special farm called Jushan.
- Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, Mao: The Unknown Story, pp. 331-332
[Chinese p]eople were told to eat "food substitutes." One wa a green roelike substance called chlorella ... After Chou En-lai tasted and approved this disgusting stuff, it soon provided a high proportion of the urban population's protein.
- Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, Mao: The Unknown Story, p. 437
Ordinary people must renounce all pleasure if they intend to be virtuOus.
"Look at any great system of ethics, from the Orient up. Didn't they all
preach the sacrifice of personal joy? Under all the complications of
verbiage, haven't they all had a single leitmotif: sacrifice,
renunciation, self-denial? Haven't you been able to catch their theme
song — 'Give up, give up, give up, give up'? Look at the moral
atmosphere of today. Everything enjoyable from cigarettes to sex to
ambition to the profit motive, is considered depraved or sinful ... We've tied happiness to guilt ... Throw your first-born into a sacrificial furnace — lie on a
bed of nails — go into the desert to mortify the flesh — don't dance —
don't go to the movies on Sunday — don't try to get rich — don't smoke
— don't drink. It's all the same line. The great line. Fools think that
taboos of this nature are just nonsense. Something left over,
old-fashioned. But there's always a purpose in nonsense. Don't bother
to examine a folly — ask yourself only what it accomplishes. Every
system of ethics that preached sacrifice grew into a world power and
ruled millions of men. Of course, you must dress it up. You must tell
people that they'll achieve a superior kind of happiness by giving up
everything that makes them happy. You don't have to be too clear about
it. Use big vague words. 'Universal Harmony' — 'Eternal Spirit' —
‘Divine Purpose' — 'Nirvana' — 'Paradise' — 'Racial Supremacy' — 'The
Dictatorship of the Proletariat.' "
- Ellsworth Toohey in Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead (emphasis ours)
And now ... 'hope and change'!
Posted by: kevin at July 15, 2009 07:28 PM (h9KHg)
3Think about all the second-hand smoke blowing from Iraq into Iran!
Now do you understand why Iran must arm itself against fuming infidels? Particularly infidels that - gasp - eat bacon instead of yummy algae:
Science News Letter praised the optimistic results [of chlorella experiments] in an article
entitled "Algae to Feed the Starving." John Burlew, the reported editor
of Carnegie Institute stated, "the algae culture may fill a very real
need," which Science News Letter turned into "future
populations of the world will be kept from starving by the production
of improved or educated algae related to the green scum on ponds" ... Science Digest also reported, "common pond scum would soon become the world's most important agricultural crop."
Ever wanted to eat what grows in your aquariums? You'll soon have the privilege. If it was good enough for Chou En-lai, surely it's good enough for you, cOmrades.
Posted by: kevin at July 15, 2009 08:12 PM (h9KHg)
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My brother in law has a good theory. He says people were much nicer when most of them smoked. Nicotine is a great relaxer and is known to relieve stress. I never smoked but I used to watch a lady at work who would take out her cigarette, light up, take a deep drag and sigh mightily. She was really relaxing and I envied her ability to do that.
Posted by: Ruth H at July 15, 2009 09:10 PM (KLwh4)
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Booo! to the Nannystate. I love how people are always ready to make restrictions just based on one study. Since when does one study dictate changes in federal policies that then revoke rights of citizens who sacrifice their lives to defend our constitution (the very document that provides them with these freedoms in the first place)??? I swear decisions are made by people who just read Cliff Notes in English class vs. the actual novels.
The federal government is acting more like not an ostrich with its head stuck in the sand but one with its head stuck up its own a$$. It's reminding me of the South Park where the liberals who drive hybrids are so smug in their "ideas" as being the right ones that they smell their own farts. Maybe that's why liberals in Congress always have that weird look on their face. I figured it was the botox but, eh, a fart could be the "green" way to kiss away those laugh lines or stress lines from not doing their jobs.
Let those who sacrifice the most enjoy their smokes. As long as their not blowing one directly in my face I could care less.
Posted by: BigD78 at July 15, 2009 10:14 PM (/iKMZ)
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Having sent any number of large boxes of great cigars to Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention the many, many cartons of cigarettes (and being a reformed smoker myself), I cannot begin to count the number of thank you emails & letters I have received on account... and how happy it made me to have these men recount the fun and affirmation they enjoyed in the countless "smoke & joke"s my gifts provided.
If they're looking to enforce or institute a useful rule, maybe they can make them all wear clean underwear... oh wait -- we have to get them to give up "commando" first BBBWWWAAAHHHAHHHAA
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Read a memoir by a guy who was a steelworker in the 1920s, later a
steel executive. He said that when prohibition came along and the guys
couldn't get their beer anymore, it was very painful...that if you work
next to a furnace all day long, water just doesn't cut it for
refreshment after the end of your shift. Of course, the church ladies
and various politicians who were the forces behind prohibition had
mostly never even seen a steel mill, let alone worked in one.
And that's the nature of centralized political decision-making...your
life is controlled by people who know nothing at all about you and the
nature of your problems and opportunities.
Posted by: david foster at July 16, 2009 02:12 PM (uWlpq)
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No kidding.
It is so incredibly frustrating to me that the government feels like it needs to protect me from myself to this degree--and that so many people are okay with it!
THIRD TIME IS THE BEST
It was deja vu all over again.
We just did this, just a year ago. So I forgot everything. I forgot to stock up on soap and baby wipes for him. I thought I had already done it. Turns out that was last year.
We just kept remarking that it didn't seem possible to already be saying goodbye again.
My husband was sad today, far sadder than the last two times. I think the last two times, he was overwhelmed with stress: his first time, obviously, it was the first time; the second time because he was deploying on his own and his unit made no preparations for him whatsoever. The plan was to drop him in country and have him hitchhike his own way to his gaining unit. He was a basketcase.
But this time, this time they departed on the dot of when they said they would. He was going with the most squared-away team possible. He had no worries...other than leaving his wife, his maybe-baby, and his pup.
He wanted to mow the back yard before he left. Really, I couldn't have cared less. If it didn't get done, I'd bribe someone else to do it. Not a big deal. But he insisted. He made a huge deal of it. It had to get done, he had to do this for me. It was his husbandly duty.
It was sweet.
He was mushy today. He's rarely mushy.
And watching him say goodbye to the dog was torture. He misses that creature so much when he's gone. I snapped this photo about a month ago of them: him doing push-ups and Charlie thinking it's a game that needs toys.
If I could let him take the dog, I would.
But he may not need that this time. This time he is deploying with friends. If I had to deploy, I'd love to take three of my closest friends with me. It might not be so bad.
I told them all to stay safe...and to try to have a little fun too.
I told him I hope when he comes home, I plunk a baby into his arms. We'll see where we stand on that tomorrow morning.
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I'm glad he's not going alone this time. The last time sounds like it started horribly:
The plan was to drop him in country and have him hitchhike his own way to his gaining unit.
Did he actually do that!? Yikes!
Good luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Amritas at July 14, 2009 06:44 PM (h9KHg)
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the real question here: exactly how many times did you make him drop and give you eye candy as he did push ups in his combat sexy shirt?
But in other news: I am hoping tomorrow brings strong hope for baby plunking opportunities this deployment's end. And I really agree that deploying with friends seems so much more appealing and comforting. Not only for them , but also us staying behind.
Posted by: wifeunit at July 14, 2009 07:06 PM (t5K2U)
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"Deploying with friends" sounds like a "mancation" to those that don't know any better. Here's hoping it is.
About tomorrow...many, many prayers.
Posted by: HomefrontSix at July 14, 2009 07:42 PM (7Qxzl)
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Just to add a lighter note. Charlie knows that man on floor equals games. Man on floor knows Charlie with toy equals games. I think it is so sweet and cute for both of them. I hope for good news for you tomorrow.
Posted by: Ruth H at July 14, 2009 07:43 PM (KLwh4)
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"mancation"?! that cracks me up. I'm glad this time things seem to be going according to plan.
Fingers crossed on tomorrow.
Posted by: dutchgirl at July 14, 2009 08:01 PM (hLAkQ)
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Ah! Crossfit man-pup style! I like it! btw ... total mancation ... that's what is doing right now too! At least we have each other *wink*
Posted by: Darla at July 14, 2009 11:12 PM (LP4DK)
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the worst part of deployment...and the best part...
to miss a person sooo much.
To know without a doubt this is whom holds your heart...
Now we both have our own combat shirt photos...although, Brian's were not at such a terrific angle as yours are.
You know that I know.
And, if you're ever deployed, I have your back. As it is, I'll have your back here & that will work too.
Posted by: Guard Wife at July 15, 2009 09:59 AM (M+hWl)
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you on the baby news - yay for a positive ultrasound (and a more attentive hospital staff) thus far.
Although I have no idea what the chance would be, I can't help thinking how funny it would be if my husband ended up meeting your husband in A-stan. I bet they'd get along. My husband will be heading that direction very soon now. Your pic of your hubby with Charlie reminds me very much of my hubby & Daisy (our beagle) playing on the floor in the living room. I will miss that (and I know he will, too) while he is gone. While we were filling out the "just in case" paperwork he kept joking that he wanted to be buried holding Daisy with a big grin on his face, and that he wished he could pack her up and take her with him.
But it is good to see them deploy with friends, especially when those friends are people you know you can trust to do the best they can to do their jobs and keep each other safe. I feel much more comfortable sending my husband away having confidence in his CO, in his fellow officers and soldiers, and in his and their prior experience.
Here's to a safe, productive, & maybe even fun "mancation".
Posted by: Leofwende at July 16, 2009 10:04 AM (28CBm)
AS virtuous men pass mildly
away,
And whisper to their souls to go,
Whilst some of their sad friends do say,
"Now his breath goes," and some say,
"No."
So let us melt, and make no
noise,
No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move ;
'Twere profanation of our joys
To tell the laity our love.
Moving of th' earth brings harms and fears ;
Men reckon what it did, and meant
;
But trepidation of the spheres,
Though greater far, is innocent.
Dull sublunary lovers' love
—Whose soul is sense—cannot admit
Of absence, 'cause it doth
remove
The thing which elemented it.
But we by a love so much refined,
That ourselves know not what it is,
Inter-assurèd of the mind,
Care less, eyes, lips and hands to
miss.
Our two souls therefore, which are one,
Though I must go, endure not yet
A breach, but an expansion,
Like gold to aery thinness beat.
If they be two, they are two
so
As stiff twin compasses are two ;
Thy soul, the fix'd foot, makes no show
To move, but doth, if th' other do.
And though it in the centre sit,
Yet, when the other far doth
roam,
It leans, and hearkens after it,
And grows erect, as that comes home.
Such wilt thou be to me, who must,
Like th' other foot, obliquely run ;
Thy firmness makes my circle
just,
And makes me end where I begun.
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NOT ENOUGH MINUTES TO GO
Today feels like this. (Well, except for the dying in the end, heh.) But you keep checking your watch, noting aloud how much time you have left. My husband keeps changing the words to this song and making me laugh.
"Well, we're cursing at Quiznos and I'm mowing the yard, with X more hours to go..."
THEY ARE A TEAM
I write about my husband's team on Facebook often, but rarely here. For a little while now, I have been taking them hot lunch once a week: enchiladas, manicotti, meatloaf, etc. Today I took them their last lunch, complete with a cake for all the fellas who will be deployed over their birthdays, starting with my husband.
This branch of the Army is unique in a sense, in that the whole thing revolves around four-man teams. My husband goes on training missions with them, shares an office with them, does PT with them, eats breakfast with them, and will deploy with only them. In short, they have grown very tight. And while my husband had the same type of closeness with his tank crew back when he was in Armor, it's just somehow a little different.
The average age of the team is 27. They have spent a combined total of 10 years in combat. They have more tattoos than I'm able to count.
They've grown so tight that it annoys the other teams. They're so tight that their commander has split them up on occasion because it looks bad that they shoot better, run faster, lift more, and just click better than anyone else.
They truly are a team. I am so grateful they have each other. I thank heavens my husband ended up with these three outstanding men.
Ahh, now I see how the necklace will workout for you. Did you ever recieve it? The vendor's dad is sick and so it took about a month to get mine.
I love how close you are to all of them. I feel like Mark and I are just not involved right now because we won't be a part of a unit for some time. I hope to be "that" military wife like you are with them, especially if mark makes SF.
Posted by: Sara Vidotto at July 09, 2009 03:08 PM (AnKbP)
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Sara -- I did get my necklace, and the boys loved it.
Posted by: Sarah at July 09, 2009 03:24 PM (TWet1)
"MORE FAIR" REVISITED
This is a rant I probably oughtn't make...
Remember the post I wrote about how the Army had to make my husband's upcoming deployment "more fair"? The last one was 7 mos so this one had to be 9 mos because they were both supposed to be 8 mos. We have to even it all up so it's fair to everyone.
The way it works in my husband's branch is that four-man teams deploy to a variety of places. Of the teams in his company, two of them are going to Afghanistan and the other teams are going to various other Middle Eastern countries (not Iraq).
It turns out that the teams going to other countries have had an unforeseen complication. So they have to wait it out. One team is estimated to be gone by August, another may hem and haw until October. So those teams won't deploy in two weeksish when my husband does. But apparently everyone's still slated to come home at the same time.
The two Afghanistan teams will therefore be the only people deploying for nine months!
More fair? More FAIR? You're kidding me, right?
The teams going to the dangerous country will be gone longer and paid much much less.
I'm not good at this branch. I think I need out of it before I hurt someone.
Posted by: Heather at July 01, 2009 05:45 PM (E/7hG)
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Ha. I love and getting all indignant about the inner workings of Mark's Navy life.
But the way it works out for you guys definitely sucks. Ugh.
Posted by: wifeunit at July 01, 2009 05:47 PM (t5K2U)
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I meant to say (and thought I did) that I loved the last part. And that I could relate to it.
whoops
Posted by: wifeunit at July 01, 2009 05:48 PM (t5K2U)
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Just like there is Army 'strong' there is, apparently, Army 'fair.'
There is also Army 'information.' Like the part where they said, "Hey, ya'll, if you want Tricare dental coverage, you need to sign up." Our dentist appointments aren't until at the end of July, so I thought, "Okay. On to do list for later."
Now we got some note in a newsletter saying something about how if we sign up now, it for an entire year b/c we missed some window.
I saw no window. I also saw NO information on how to sign up.
These folks crack me up.
Posted by: Guard Wife at July 01, 2009 06:06 PM (M+hWl)
Posted by: HomefrontSix at July 01, 2009 09:51 PM (7Qxzl)
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Sarah - what a bummer. Yuck. I'm curious about something you said ~ How are they paid less? Does hazardous duty pay vary based on location? awiv
Posted by: awiv at July 06, 2009 11:34 PM (FJ6eJ)
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Per diems vary. Per diem for Iraq and Afghanistan is $3.50 per day. Per diems in other countries can get up to $100 per day. Multiply that by nine months, and those soldiers are taking home $20,000 more than my husband. Ugh, don't even get me started on that one...
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