I mean, do I have to do any more other than quote the first line of that article? Probably not, but here goes.
These are grown men and women whose only control over their own lives is the few minutes' enjoyment they might get from a cigarette. How dare you even consider taking that away from them? My own husband, decidedly not a smoker, enjoys a cigar or two downrange. It's stress relief. It's camaraderie. It's the one thing they have. You took their beer and now you want to take their smokes too? Are you insane?
I don't care if it's bad for you; free adults get to make choices that are bad for them. Period.
Repealing cigarettes would clear out the Army faster than repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell.
America can be disarmed literally -- by cutting our weapons systems and
our defensive capabilities -- as Mr. Obama has agreed to do.
She asked,
Does he really believe that the North Koreans and the Iranians are
simply waiting for America to cut funds for missile defense and reduce
our strategic nuclear stockpile before they halt their weapons programs?
We believe that. North Korean and Iran are only trying to defend themselves from an eeevil empire still full of Republicans. Sarah Palin may soon be out of office, but other enemies of the peOple are still clinging onto their thrones, perpetuating imperialist conflict in the Middle East against peaceful jihadis.
The war will only end when there are no more warriors. We will disarm them slowly. The list of haram items will continue to expand. Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. Meat. Bacon. Especially bacon.
"World's worst idea"? We're just getting started.
These are grown men and women whose only control over their own lives
is the few minutes' enjoyment they might get from a cigarette.
That's a few minutes too many. They should be under gOvernment control 24/7.
I don't care if it's bad for you; free adults get to make choices that are bad for them.
There are no free adults, only persyns free to obey the orders of their Great Leaders for their own gOOd.
Posted by: kevin at July 15, 2009 06:50 PM (h9KHg)
Just as a "Pentagon-commissioned report urges the Defense Department to ban smoking in the military", a Pentagram-commissioned report urges a ban on personnel in the military. All bases should be converted into welcoming areas for the jihadis who have sacrificed so much in the name of submission. (Free-dumb is soooo overrated.) An open borders policy and generous handOuts will insure that more of them will enrich our natiOn's diversity.
We realize that tax revenues are not infinite, and we must use them wisely. So instead of wasting "more than $800
million a year in lost productivity and health care expenses" due to "smoking and tobacco-related illnesses" among people who sacrifice everything for America, we should spend the money on peOple who really need it, like undocumented immigrants who showed up yesterday.
Mao ... was a gourmet, and had his favourite foods shipped in from all over the country ... A special fish from Wuhan that he liked had to be couriered alive 1,000 kilometres in a plastic bag filled with water and kept oxygenated ...
This farm was specially set up to grow rice for Mao, as the water there was supposed to be the very best. In the olden days the spring had supplied drinking water for the imperial courts. Now it fed Mao's rice paddies. The vegetables Mao liked, as well as poultry and milk, were produced in another special farm called Jushan.
- Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, Mao: The Unknown Story, pp. 331-332
[Chinese p]eople were told to eat "food substitutes." One wa a green roelike substance called chlorella ... After Chou En-lai tasted and approved this disgusting stuff, it soon provided a high proportion of the urban population's protein.
- Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, Mao: The Unknown Story, p. 437
Ordinary people must renounce all pleasure if they intend to be virtuOus.
"Look at any great system of ethics, from the Orient up. Didn't they all
preach the sacrifice of personal joy? Under all the complications of
verbiage, haven't they all had a single leitmotif: sacrifice,
renunciation, self-denial? Haven't you been able to catch their theme
song — 'Give up, give up, give up, give up'? Look at the moral
atmosphere of today. Everything enjoyable from cigarettes to sex to
ambition to the profit motive, is considered depraved or sinful ... We've tied happiness to guilt ... Throw your first-born into a sacrificial furnace — lie on a
bed of nails — go into the desert to mortify the flesh — don't dance —
don't go to the movies on Sunday — don't try to get rich — don't smoke
— don't drink. It's all the same line. The great line. Fools think that
taboos of this nature are just nonsense. Something left over,
old-fashioned. But there's always a purpose in nonsense. Don't bother
to examine a folly — ask yourself only what it accomplishes. Every
system of ethics that preached sacrifice grew into a world power and
ruled millions of men. Of course, you must dress it up. You must tell
people that they'll achieve a superior kind of happiness by giving up
everything that makes them happy. You don't have to be too clear about
it. Use big vague words. 'Universal Harmony' — 'Eternal Spirit' —
‘Divine Purpose' — 'Nirvana' — 'Paradise' — 'Racial Supremacy' — 'The
Dictatorship of the Proletariat.' "
- Ellsworth Toohey in Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead (emphasis ours)
And now ... 'hope and change'!
Posted by: kevin at July 15, 2009 07:28 PM (h9KHg)
3Think about all the second-hand smoke blowing from Iraq into Iran!
Now do you understand why Iran must arm itself against fuming infidels? Particularly infidels that - gasp - eat bacon instead of yummy algae:
Science News Letter praised the optimistic results [of chlorella experiments] in an article
entitled "Algae to Feed the Starving." John Burlew, the reported editor
of Carnegie Institute stated, "the algae culture may fill a very real
need," which Science News Letter turned into "future
populations of the world will be kept from starving by the production
of improved or educated algae related to the green scum on ponds" ... Science Digest also reported, "common pond scum would soon become the world's most important agricultural crop."
Ever wanted to eat what grows in your aquariums? You'll soon have the privilege. If it was good enough for Chou En-lai, surely it's good enough for you, cOmrades.
Posted by: kevin at July 15, 2009 08:12 PM (h9KHg)
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My brother in law has a good theory. He says people were much nicer when most of them smoked. Nicotine is a great relaxer and is known to relieve stress. I never smoked but I used to watch a lady at work who would take out her cigarette, light up, take a deep drag and sigh mightily. She was really relaxing and I envied her ability to do that.
Posted by: Ruth H at July 15, 2009 09:10 PM (KLwh4)
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Booo! to the Nannystate. I love how people are always ready to make restrictions just based on one study. Since when does one study dictate changes in federal policies that then revoke rights of citizens who sacrifice their lives to defend our constitution (the very document that provides them with these freedoms in the first place)??? I swear decisions are made by people who just read Cliff Notes in English class vs. the actual novels.
The federal government is acting more like not an ostrich with its head stuck in the sand but one with its head stuck up its own a$$. It's reminding me of the South Park where the liberals who drive hybrids are so smug in their "ideas" as being the right ones that they smell their own farts. Maybe that's why liberals in Congress always have that weird look on their face. I figured it was the botox but, eh, a fart could be the "green" way to kiss away those laugh lines or stress lines from not doing their jobs.
Let those who sacrifice the most enjoy their smokes. As long as their not blowing one directly in my face I could care less.
Posted by: BigD78 at July 15, 2009 10:14 PM (/iKMZ)
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Having sent any number of large boxes of great cigars to Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention the many, many cartons of cigarettes (and being a reformed smoker myself), I cannot begin to count the number of thank you emails & letters I have received on account... and how happy it made me to have these men recount the fun and affirmation they enjoyed in the countless "smoke & joke"s my gifts provided.
If they're looking to enforce or institute a useful rule, maybe they can make them all wear clean underwear... oh wait -- we have to get them to give up "commando" first BBBWWWAAAHHHAHHHAA
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Read a memoir by a guy who was a steelworker in the 1920s, later a
steel executive. He said that when prohibition came along and the guys
couldn't get their beer anymore, it was very painful...that if you work
next to a furnace all day long, water just doesn't cut it for
refreshment after the end of your shift. Of course, the church ladies
and various politicians who were the forces behind prohibition had
mostly never even seen a steel mill, let alone worked in one.
And that's the nature of centralized political decision-making...your
life is controlled by people who know nothing at all about you and the
nature of your problems and opportunities.
Posted by: david foster at July 16, 2009 02:12 PM (uWlpq)
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No kidding.
It is so incredibly frustrating to me that the government feels like it needs to protect me from myself to this degree--and that so many people are okay with it!
THIRD TIME IS THE BEST
It was deja vu all over again.
We just did this, just a year ago. So I forgot everything. I forgot to stock up on soap and baby wipes for him. I thought I had already done it. Turns out that was last year.
We just kept remarking that it didn't seem possible to already be saying goodbye again.
My husband was sad today, far sadder than the last two times. I think the last two times, he was overwhelmed with stress: his first time, obviously, it was the first time; the second time because he was deploying on his own and his unit made no preparations for him whatsoever. The plan was to drop him in country and have him hitchhike his own way to his gaining unit. He was a basketcase.
But this time, this time they departed on the dot of when they said they would. He was going with the most squared-away team possible. He had no worries...other than leaving his wife, his maybe-baby, and his pup.
He wanted to mow the back yard before he left. Really, I couldn't have cared less. If it didn't get done, I'd bribe someone else to do it. Not a big deal. But he insisted. He made a huge deal of it. It had to get done, he had to do this for me. It was his husbandly duty.
It was sweet.
He was mushy today. He's rarely mushy.
And watching him say goodbye to the dog was torture. He misses that creature so much when he's gone. I snapped this photo about a month ago of them: him doing push-ups and Charlie thinking it's a game that needs toys.
If I could let him take the dog, I would.
But he may not need that this time. This time he is deploying with friends. If I had to deploy, I'd love to take three of my closest friends with me. It might not be so bad.
I told them all to stay safe...and to try to have a little fun too.
I told him I hope when he comes home, I plunk a baby into his arms. We'll see where we stand on that tomorrow morning.
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I'm glad he's not going alone this time. The last time sounds like it started horribly:
The plan was to drop him in country and have him hitchhike his own way to his gaining unit.
Did he actually do that!? Yikes!
Good luck tomorrow!
Posted by: Amritas at July 14, 2009 06:44 PM (h9KHg)
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the real question here: exactly how many times did you make him drop and give you eye candy as he did push ups in his combat sexy shirt?
But in other news: I am hoping tomorrow brings strong hope for baby plunking opportunities this deployment's end. And I really agree that deploying with friends seems so much more appealing and comforting. Not only for them , but also us staying behind.
Posted by: wifeunit at July 14, 2009 07:06 PM (t5K2U)
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"Deploying with friends" sounds like a "mancation" to those that don't know any better. Here's hoping it is.
About tomorrow...many, many prayers.
Posted by: HomefrontSix at July 14, 2009 07:42 PM (7Qxzl)
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Just to add a lighter note. Charlie knows that man on floor equals games. Man on floor knows Charlie with toy equals games. I think it is so sweet and cute for both of them. I hope for good news for you tomorrow.
Posted by: Ruth H at July 14, 2009 07:43 PM (KLwh4)
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"mancation"?! that cracks me up. I'm glad this time things seem to be going according to plan.
Fingers crossed on tomorrow.
Posted by: dutchgirl at July 14, 2009 08:01 PM (hLAkQ)
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Ah! Crossfit man-pup style! I like it! btw ... total mancation ... that's what is doing right now too! At least we have each other *wink*
Posted by: Darla at July 14, 2009 11:12 PM (LP4DK)
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the worst part of deployment...and the best part...
to miss a person sooo much.
To know without a doubt this is whom holds your heart...
Now we both have our own combat shirt photos...although, Brian's were not at such a terrific angle as yours are.
You know that I know.
And, if you're ever deployed, I have your back. As it is, I'll have your back here & that will work too.
Posted by: Guard Wife at July 15, 2009 09:59 AM (M+hWl)
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you on the baby news - yay for a positive ultrasound (and a more attentive hospital staff) thus far.
Although I have no idea what the chance would be, I can't help thinking how funny it would be if my husband ended up meeting your husband in A-stan. I bet they'd get along. My husband will be heading that direction very soon now. Your pic of your hubby with Charlie reminds me very much of my hubby & Daisy (our beagle) playing on the floor in the living room. I will miss that (and I know he will, too) while he is gone. While we were filling out the "just in case" paperwork he kept joking that he wanted to be buried holding Daisy with a big grin on his face, and that he wished he could pack her up and take her with him.
But it is good to see them deploy with friends, especially when those friends are people you know you can trust to do the best they can to do their jobs and keep each other safe. I feel much more comfortable sending my husband away having confidence in his CO, in his fellow officers and soldiers, and in his and their prior experience.
Here's to a safe, productive, & maybe even fun "mancation".
Posted by: Leofwende at July 16, 2009 10:04 AM (28CBm)
AS virtuous men pass mildly
away,
And whisper to their souls to go,
Whilst some of their sad friends do say,
"Now his breath goes," and some say,
"No."
So let us melt, and make no
noise,
No tear-floods, nor sigh-tempests move ;
'Twere profanation of our joys
To tell the laity our love.
Moving of th' earth brings harms and fears ;
Men reckon what it did, and meant
;
But trepidation of the spheres,
Though greater far, is innocent.
Dull sublunary lovers' love
—Whose soul is sense—cannot admit
Of absence, 'cause it doth
remove
The thing which elemented it.
But we by a love so much refined,
That ourselves know not what it is,
Inter-assurèd of the mind,
Care less, eyes, lips and hands to
miss.
Our two souls therefore, which are one,
Though I must go, endure not yet
A breach, but an expansion,
Like gold to aery thinness beat.
If they be two, they are two
so
As stiff twin compasses are two ;
Thy soul, the fix'd foot, makes no show
To move, but doth, if th' other do.
And though it in the centre sit,
Yet, when the other far doth
roam,
It leans, and hearkens after it,
And grows erect, as that comes home.
Such wilt thou be to me, who must,
Like th' other foot, obliquely run ;
Thy firmness makes my circle
just,
And makes me end where I begun.
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NOT ENOUGH MINUTES TO GO
Today feels like this. (Well, except for the dying in the end, heh.) But you keep checking your watch, noting aloud how much time you have left. My husband keeps changing the words to this song and making me laugh.
"Well, we're cursing at Quiznos and I'm mowing the yard, with X more hours to go..."
THEY ARE A TEAM
I write about my husband's team on Facebook often, but rarely here. For a little while now, I have been taking them hot lunch once a week: enchiladas, manicotti, meatloaf, etc. Today I took them their last lunch, complete with a cake for all the fellas who will be deployed over their birthdays, starting with my husband.
This branch of the Army is unique in a sense, in that the whole thing revolves around four-man teams. My husband goes on training missions with them, shares an office with them, does PT with them, eats breakfast with them, and will deploy with only them. In short, they have grown very tight. And while my husband had the same type of closeness with his tank crew back when he was in Armor, it's just somehow a little different.
The average age of the team is 27. They have spent a combined total of 10 years in combat. They have more tattoos than I'm able to count.
They've grown so tight that it annoys the other teams. They're so tight that their commander has split them up on occasion because it looks bad that they shoot better, run faster, lift more, and just click better than anyone else.
They truly are a team. I am so grateful they have each other. I thank heavens my husband ended up with these three outstanding men.
Ahh, now I see how the necklace will workout for you. Did you ever recieve it? The vendor's dad is sick and so it took about a month to get mine.
I love how close you are to all of them. I feel like Mark and I are just not involved right now because we won't be a part of a unit for some time. I hope to be "that" military wife like you are with them, especially if mark makes SF.
Posted by: Sara Vidotto at July 09, 2009 03:08 PM (AnKbP)
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Sara -- I did get my necklace, and the boys loved it.
Posted by: Sarah at July 09, 2009 03:24 PM (TWet1)
"MORE FAIR" REVISITED
This is a rant I probably oughtn't make...
Remember the post I wrote about how the Army had to make my husband's upcoming deployment "more fair"? The last one was 7 mos so this one had to be 9 mos because they were both supposed to be 8 mos. We have to even it all up so it's fair to everyone.
The way it works in my husband's branch is that four-man teams deploy to a variety of places. Of the teams in his company, two of them are going to Afghanistan and the other teams are going to various other Middle Eastern countries (not Iraq).
It turns out that the teams going to other countries have had an unforeseen complication. So they have to wait it out. One team is estimated to be gone by August, another may hem and haw until October. So those teams won't deploy in two weeksish when my husband does. But apparently everyone's still slated to come home at the same time.
The two Afghanistan teams will therefore be the only people deploying for nine months!
More fair? More FAIR? You're kidding me, right?
The teams going to the dangerous country will be gone longer and paid much much less.
I'm not good at this branch. I think I need out of it before I hurt someone.
Posted by: Heather at July 01, 2009 05:45 PM (E/7hG)
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Ha. I love and getting all indignant about the inner workings of Mark's Navy life.
But the way it works out for you guys definitely sucks. Ugh.
Posted by: wifeunit at July 01, 2009 05:47 PM (t5K2U)
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I meant to say (and thought I did) that I loved the last part. And that I could relate to it.
whoops
Posted by: wifeunit at July 01, 2009 05:48 PM (t5K2U)
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Just like there is Army 'strong' there is, apparently, Army 'fair.'
There is also Army 'information.' Like the part where they said, "Hey, ya'll, if you want Tricare dental coverage, you need to sign up." Our dentist appointments aren't until at the end of July, so I thought, "Okay. On to do list for later."
Now we got some note in a newsletter saying something about how if we sign up now, it for an entire year b/c we missed some window.
I saw no window. I also saw NO information on how to sign up.
These folks crack me up.
Posted by: Guard Wife at July 01, 2009 06:06 PM (M+hWl)
Posted by: HomefrontSix at July 01, 2009 09:51 PM (7Qxzl)
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Sarah - what a bummer. Yuck. I'm curious about something you said ~ How are they paid less? Does hazardous duty pay vary based on location? awiv
Posted by: awiv at July 06, 2009 11:34 PM (FJ6eJ)
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Per diems vary. Per diem for Iraq and Afghanistan is $3.50 per day. Per diems in other countries can get up to $100 per day. Multiply that by nine months, and those soldiers are taking home $20,000 more than my husband. Ugh, don't even get me started on that one...
Posted by: Sarah at July 07, 2009 06:52 AM (TWet1)
I'm sorry, but I've just never bought into the idea that Afghanistan is the "good war." My husband has actually had someone say to him that at least his upcoming deployment is to Afghanistan, which serves a purpose and has meaning, unlike Iraq. I wholeheartedly reject that idea. I also disagree vehemently with Pres Obama when he said, "Unlike Afghanistan, Iraq was a war of choice..." As Neal Boortz said recently, all wars are a choice. None of the 9/11 hijackers came from Afghanistan, so please explain to me how Afghanistan wasn't a choice that was made.
I've been thinking about Afghanistan a lot lately, and I have a hard time feeling good about my husband going there. Frankly, I am not convinced that country deserves his effort.
[Petraeus] doesn't seem to grasp that, while al Qaeda was a foreign and
ultimately unwanted presence in Iraq, the Taliban's the home team in
Afghanistan. Afghan tribesmen just don't share our interests. And
Iraq's a state. Afghanistan's an accident.
We'd need hundreds of thousands of troops and decades of commitment
to attempt to nation-build where there's no nation to build.
Interestingly enough, my husband said the exact same thing this morning when I said I wanted to work on my Afghanistan post. Iraq had a history of being governed; Afghanistan doesn't. So what is our goal?
This very thing was discussed on the final panel at the Milblogs Conference this year. Bill Roggio, Andrew Exum, and Bill Nagle all kinda shrugged their shoulders and expressed an inability to decipher what the Obama administration's end goal is in Afghanistan. Even if you disagree with the shifting goals in Iraq, at least most people can articulate what they were: finding WMDs, bringing democracy, leaving Iraq with some sort of intact system of government. Can the layman come up with any proposed goal in Afghanistan? I can't, other than, um, kill al Qaeda?
And maybe that in itself is the goal. It is according to Ralph Peters:
Getting it right in Afghanistan -- and across the frontier in Pakistan
-- means digging fewer wells and forcing our enemies to dig more graves.
But when does it end? Americans squawked that we had no "exit strategy" in Iraq, but holy cow, what is the exit strategy for a war of attrition? Then you're in GEN LeMay territory: "If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." Do we stay in Afghanistan until every terrorist is dead? I don't think that is really a true goal, certainly not an attainable one.
And I don't even think that is the Obama goal, otherwise he would not be doing this:
President Barack Obama's choice to take charge of the war in Afghanistan Tuesday called "significant growth" of the Afghan army and national
police the key to his strategy, but the annual cost of building and
maintaining the existing Afghan force is more than four times larger
than the entire Afghan economy. [...] "We are building an army they will never be able to afford," a senior U.S. military official told McClatchy.
I am by no means smart about these things. But it seems to me that we Americans are being naive about Afghanistan, even more naive than we were in Iraq.
At this point we again run into one of those quaint and always-wrong
assumptions that the West operates on when it intervenes in a Muslim
country. Whether in Washington, London, or The Hague, the most basic
assumption of nation-building is that if poor, illiterate, unhealthy
Muslims are given potable water, schooling, prenatal care, and voting
booths, they will abandon their faith, love Israel, demand visits by
Saiman Rushdie, and encourage their daughters to be feminist with a
moral sense alien to most of the Islamic world--that is, they will try
to become Europeans.
This, of course, has never occurred in the wake of a Western
intervention in a Muslim country. Islam invariably becomes more, not
less, important to the inhabitants of an invaded Muslim country, and
while improvements in water, disease resistance, and schoolbooks are
appreciated, they are not religiously transforming. We simply end up
with Muslims who are better educated, healthier, and more militantly
Islamic. This has happened in countries (Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq,
and several of the Balkan states) and in prison camps; in Guantanamo
Bay, for example, we are building a truly dedicated and virulently
anti-U.S. mujahedin battalion, the members of which will have the
best-cared-for teeth in the Islamic world. But through it all, U.S. and
Western leaders, the UN, and untold numbers of NGO spokespersons
continue to sell shopworn lies to Western electorates-that
nation-building will yield secularists who will desire only to live in
peace with their Western conquerors.
I think we project too much onto a people and culture we simply cannot grok. Our American mantra that all men desire to be free may just not apply. (Read The Places In Between if you want to be horrified by the Afghan midset.) And eight years into this clash, we still are making monumental and basic mistakes, even at the highest levels: US envoy Holbrooke just made an enormous cultural faux-pas. Afghanistan bloggers caught the gaff and flipped out; how is the "Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan under the Obama administration" making such mistakes while bloggers know better? (To echo J.G. Thayer and my husband, please show us that "smart diplomacy" and distinguish yourself from yokel Bush whenever you're ready.) How is it that my husband has arguments at work about the definitions of counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency, with the very people who are supposed to know the difference and carry it out? How can "experts" still be so under-educated and naive about something that's been going on for eight years?
I am murky about what I should hope for in Afghanistan. What are the benchmarks? What does success look like? What is my husband's role?
And how long will this take?
Steven den Beste a few days after 9/11: "The progress and spread of freedom worldwide will continue; this war
won't end for centuries." [emphasis mine, because the enormity of that thought is horrifying]
I find the whole thing quite stressful, and I am not ready to send my husband to Afghanistan. I personally thought Iraq was the battle of the long war I could get behind. I am having a harder time working up the emotional investment this milspouse needs to send her husband off to fight.
I am not ready for my husband to join a new front in a war that won't end for centuries.
UPDATED:
I meant to add this originally and forgot. I just wanted to put links to the blogs my husband's been reading that cover Afghanistan-related issues:
I linked here from the Castle. This past week, I had the pleasure of meeting a Major who flies Blackhawks and was working with the command staff in Afghanistan. She told me something that gave me a whole new perspective on war, especially the one in Afghanistan. In a nutshell, it is not about killing the enemy but raising their sights. Their standard of living. Their ability to have for themselves and their country what other western countries have. To reject terrorism as being self-defeating of attaining those goals. While we have always had that as part of the 'hearts and minds' approach, in Afghanistan it means that literacy is a big part of changing those minds and hearts.
It could take years, but if they can read and think for themselves early on, it won't take as long. I just wish that I could remember everything she (this major) told me, but I went away from that conversation thinking that we are on the right track because it is working, but instead of taking a generation, it will be less than that, and by that time, two generations will be affected.
As Americans, we tend to want instant gratification because we are sort of hard-wired that way. We forget that the Middle East is essentially not that way because of religion, culture and the tribes.
Anyway, excellent post and thought-provoking.
Posted by: Cricket at June 20, 2009 12:41 PM (odsR+)
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I also came over at the behest of The Armorer. More preamble, I may come off as inna you face, but I shouldn't be taken that way. I just don't pretty up my words very well, and I appologize for that.
I remember quite well why we are in Afghanistan: to end the Taliban rule and other gov'ts of that country that would provide safe haven to trans national groups that would attack the US or other liberal democracies. That necessitated much of the same slate as for Iraq, sans the WMD issue.
I've often said that COL Peters comes from teh 'kill 'em all, who cares if they get sorted' school of thought, and that for every job there exists a proper tool. COL Peters and his ilk aren't the right tool for this job. HIC? Sure, LIC? Oh, hell no.
Scheuer does not ring true to me. He makes a broken analogy. In the past policy was governed, mostly, by the need to counter the USSR and Int'l communism. Which had disasterous effects on what was done in the ME. Things like support right wing jagoffs longer than was wise becuase we needed them to counter soclialist revolutionaries like those who took over Iran. Now is different. I don't know about the effect of 'smart diplomacy' but I do know that things that were done wrong, out of necessity, back when I was a kid are not necessity now. Such as remaining :eviathan in terms of military, we can now tool down to LIC and MOOTW---and do it right--- because there's no near peer competitor. We don't HAVE to ally ourselves with the likes of Noriega, Marcos, Pinochet, Mubarak, and Rhee---authortarian jagoffs who abused the people and made a great swatch of anti-americanism in their nations because we supported them---and can now take actions aimed primarily at what's best for where we're acting instead of some broader context.
THe same type of thing, the 'it creates more hardcore followers', can be said about the mob. There does exist an inflection point where you aren't creating more of x by acting. It's a long, hard, tear filled slog to point. BUt it's a road once set upon turning off of leaves a greater problem than staying on(see Somalia, et all in his list, where we ended our commitments and things went kablooie).
I pray that we'll see our loved ones come out of this healthy and whole. I don't think God listens to me much, but I'll add what weight I can in Him looking after yours. Take care.
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Thanks, Sarah. This post was well worth the wait!
I could go on and on, but I have to go to breakfast, and then the airport, so for now, I'll just respond to Cricket. Given the failure of government programs to uplift Americans in America, would a gigantic multi-generational American government uplift program have a chance to succeed in a foreign country? I'm pretty sure the answer is no. Maybe a new Iran is the best hope for a better Afghanistan. More later.
Posted by: Amritas at June 20, 2009 10:03 PM (/IwHi)
"I will never tell the city why I appointed these three hundred. I will never tell the Three Hundred themselves. But I now tell you.
"I chose them not for their own valor, lady, but for that of their women...
"Greece stands now on her most perilous hour. If she saves herself, it will not be at the Gates ...but later, in battles yet to come, by land and sea.Then Greece, if the gods will it, will preserve herself...
"When the battle is over, when the 300 have gone down to death, then will all Greece look to the Spartans, to see how they bear it.
"But who, ladies, who will the Spartans look to? To you. To you and the other wives and mothers, sisters and daughters of the fallen.
"If they behold your hearts riven and broken with grief, they too will break. And Greece will break with them. But if you bear up, dry-eyed, not alone enduring your loss but seizing it with contempt for it's agony and embracing it as the honor that it is in truth, then Sparta will stand and all Hellas will stand behind her.
"Why have I nominated you, lady, to bear up beneath this most terrible of trials, you and your sisters of the Three Hundred? Because you can."
- Leonidas, in Stephen Pressfield's Gates of Fire.
Posted by: Greyhawk at June 20, 2009 10:25 PM (/tYJS)
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I think that the fundamental difference between Iraq and Afghanistan is the fact the Iraq, for good or ill, had a working infrastructure, and Iraqis have far less to go to re-establish a working infrastructure, whereas the Afghanis, at least the ones who we have to convince, are still working with a 13th century mentality, and it's going to take much low intensity education to brink these guys up to the level where they can even appreciate what we're trying to do for them.
Posted by: SGT B at June 20, 2009 11:42 PM (dX9rw)
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Why are we in Afghanistan? If I had much more time - I would start with "Because the New York Times refused to hire a third rate stringer named Karl Marx," and lay out 19th and 20th Century history from there. But that would necessarily omit the most important part. Human nature.
And that's something that is better learned by observation than from a book. Or a web page. For this question, perhaps the best basic text would be Aristotle's Politics. But Aristotle was far from politically correct.
Since you use Robert Heinlein's grok properly - a couple of bucks at the used book store should buy a copy of Heinlein's Starship Trooper. The basics are there, and expanded upon in his Time Enough for Love. As they are in his collected short stories, The Past Through Tomorrow.
Or pick up a copy of Rose Wilder Lane's "The Discovery of Freedom." When it was new our Civics Teacher assigned it to my class. The 1850's history Mrs. Lane used was outdated when the book was written - but her conclusions are exactly right. So it's worth a read
You should be able to finish all three in a couple of afternoons, although you might skip parts of "Love."
But basically, we are in Afghanistan because our eventual survival depends on it. Not our survival as a country - our personal survival. The survival of yourself and of your children. And of everyone around you and their children.
Because the aim of the Talib and other Islamic groups is to enslave the rest of the world. Ostensibly for Allah - actually for their own power and profit. And that puts all our lives in peril.
Stranger
Posted by: Stranger at June 21, 2009 01:01 AM (uu3eD)
Another sometime-denizen of the Castle checking in. Your post gave me chills of the worst sort, after seeing transports streaming out of McChord AFB on Saturday. I know holidays don't REALLY mean much in the grand scheme of things, but, the day before Father's day, away they go. To what end? How do we end the very last membef of the Taliban? Do we need to end the people that replace them too?
I don't know either. And that does not make me happy.
Posted by: MCart at June 22, 2009 01:43 PM (z9gCU)
MORE OVERSHARING
A bit more oversharing and more stuff that will make me look depressed. And then I'll go back to working on my long Afghanistan post.
Yesterday morning, I remembered what deployment feels like.
My husband is again gone for training, his last week of it before he deploys. And as I spent my fourth day without him, I remembered how bad it sucks. I miss him too much this week, and it's a pain I had quickly forgotten after he returned in December.
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Would it be accurate to say that you have ups and downs? I think some people might think you're perpetually depressed. But it's hard to truly determine someone's frame of mind from a blog. People extrapolate the whole from what you wrote in an hour. We imaginary folk have nothing else to rely on. We have to remember that a blog is a crude tool for emotional estimates.
You can still laugh. That doesn't make the pain you feel any less real. I guess it's always there in different degrees, in different locations - sometimes at the back of your mind, sometimes at the forefront. I admire you because you don't deny it - or let it define you. You still maintain perspective. You know there's more going on out there, which is why you want to write about Afghanistan. I look forward to your essay.
Posted by: Amritas at June 05, 2009 01:32 PM (+nV09)
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Is anyone ever ready? I wasn't, emotionally, after three years since the last deployment (though my brain was well prepared) so I guess it doesn't seem surprising that you wouldn't be after (less than?) six months. Doesn't seem like oversharing to me, seems like a statement of an expected fact.
On Saturday, we went to the local military museum and listened to a presentation given by Chester Biggs, a WWII POW of the Japanese. The talk was very interesting, but I was disappointed that only a handful of people were there. And the majority of the people in the room were his comrades.
You know who does not need to hear the story of a POW? Other POWs.
At the end of his speech, after he had described four years in a POW camp as a PFC, someone asked him what he did after the war. He said he reenlisted and then subsequently fought in Korea. Later that night, my husband remarked that he was sure -- after hearing this apologetic man explain that he wasn't actually in WWII and had to learn about it later in history books -- that this man, a war prisoner, felt he hadn't done his fair share.
Mr. Biggs was one of the lucky ones to make it home...and allowed to collect his per diem of "$1 per day of imprisonment for failure to receive sufficient quantity and quality of food" under the War Claims Act.
Many of his comrades didn't make it home...
Today is a day to remember them. And to realize that we need to take advantage of any opportunity we are afforded to gain perspective from someone like Mr. Biggs.
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We will be going to our local memorial service today. We are hoping to get my sisters, 3 of them live close by, and their husbands to join us. It is the least we can do. Both of our brothers were servicemen, one in the Korean war. But instead of moaning about what Obama is doing my husband decided we had better start being proactive, not just reactive, and show our colors in a more forward fashion. I agree. We do not live in town, we live in the wilderness, but it is not a hardship to go into town to the service.
Posted by: Ruth H at May 25, 2009 09:07 AM (4eLhB)
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My 13 y.o. son and I attended a service at the local cemetary put on by the local VFW post (only a couple of miles away--didn't even have to go to town!).
It wasn't very long and involved, just a couple of short speeches, a prayer, raising the flag, 21 gun salute and singing God Bless America. What really got to me though, was a high school girl playing Taps. Every note drawn out, so pure and sweet. It choked me up so bad I couldn't even hardly sing GBA. I'm getting teary eyed just thinking of it now. Afterwards, we strolled through the cemetary looking at the stones, flags and flowers. I was surprised how many Civil War era ones there were--many deaths between 1860-64 of young men.
God Bless ALL those who serve and have served for US!
Posted by: MargeinMI at May 27, 2009 07:01 AM (G9kxK)
I have a couple of tips for you. First make sure that none of your
post titles matches a category title! For some reason they don't play
nice together when they have the same name... strange isn't it. I've
done it a couple of times because I'm a SLOW learner. I had to
delete the post and redo it because no one could comment.
Also, I found that if I name a post with a single number that corresponds to a month (I had a post I called 12) the month archive corresponding to that number will point only to that post. For me - all the December archives pointed there. Pixy told me how to fix it. (all hail Pixy!)
And if you're like me and need to edit an old post some time - ask him for the cute edit gif to put in your template - makes life much easier!
If you have any questions just ask - I think I've done everything wrong so far that can be done wrong. LOL.
Oh yeah, cool shirt. I like it.
Posted by: Teresa at May 07, 2009 10:48 PM (ybEr8)
In
a column, Mr. Putney has again raised the debate about the sacrifice of
America's "sons and daughters" in uniform. Some have argued that we
must continue the fight to honor their memory "so that they have not
died in vain." Others argue we must stop the wars to save soldiers from
this fate. I think an essential understanding of what motivates those
of us in uniform is missing in this debate. We are not your sons
and daughters, whom you must protect and defend. We are your sword and
your shield. We are men and women who volunteer to place our lives on
the line so you do not have to. We do not decide when or where we will
be sent. We go. You are our advocates, not our parents. [...] I
know my life is in the hands of others because I choose for it to be
that way. I am not your daughter, a child who must be guided. I have
made my choice and pledge my honor to it. I will thank you to remember
that because we serve our nation, none of us dies in vain, regardless
of the cause; end of debate.
(emphasis mine)
The "sons and daughters" argument has always bugged me too.
When I met my husband nearly ten years ago, he was still a teenager. But he had more responsibility than any of the rest of us in college. Stayed up until midnight watching TV? You can skip class, but you can't skip PT. At 19, he managed his life far better than most. And by the time he returned from Iraq at 25, he was a full-fledged man, a man who had been responsible for the safety and lives of 15 other soldiers.
He is not, and never was, a child who needs protecting. He doesn't need concerned citizens to treat him like a dupe or rube and decide what's best for him and where he should direct his energies. He wants to direct them at the Middle East, and if you "bring him home," he will try to find another way to get there somehow.
He is your sword and your shield. And he is a man.
Of course people still care about you, whatever stage of life you're in, but they're no longer responsible for you, and the infantilizing attitude (rebutted so nicely both here and in that editorial) really does need to stop. (For that matter, it needs to stop for civilian adults, too.)
For goodness' sake, we're supposed to raise kids to be worthwhile, come-into-their-own, self-sufficient (insofar as it is possible) adults, not to still be nursing at 40. And yes, our adult commitments are OUR adult commitments, not our parents' sacrificing us to appease the fire gods.
This post goes kinda well with AFW's post, doesn't it?
Posted by: kannie at April 28, 2009 05:36 PM (S6srO)
2I think the idea of "America's sons and daughters" has been watered down to this idea that our military are 'our sons and daughters' as Americans. The symbolic use of "America's sons and daughters" in its original usage (from what I can tell) seemed more to conjure the idea that the virile, courageous, young (or at least agile!) and brave would take up arms to protect the homeland. That the sons & daughters of the country would rise up and maintain freedom to honor those who went before and to provide for those yet to come.
Now, though, like everything else, this phrase has been watered down to suggest that our military blithely found itself somewhere that, had their been careful guidance, none of them would have tread.
I'm with you. They know what they are doing and they do it better than anyone else.
Posted by: Guard Wife at April 28, 2009 06:18 PM (Bfea2)
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This view of servicemembers as children (hence "sons and daughters") reflects the paternal premise of the Left. Individuals like Sarah's husband are incapable of making decisions for themselves. The little people must be guided by a Great Leader. The armed forces were duped by a false Great Leader (Bushaitan), but now that the Omerican peOple have chosen the greatest leader of all time by a record landslide, I expect to hear some interesting new tunes. Leftists might warm up to Afghanistan while the Right loses interest.
Posted by: Amritas at April 29, 2009 12:51 PM (+nV09)
WHEW
In addition to SpouseBUZZ Live and my husband having to work over the weekend, we were also mentally dealing with this: A Lot Can Change In 36 Hours.
BROTHERS AT WAR
I have been out of my element this week, so I was grateful that Laughing Wolf called me last night to invite me to the opening of the movie Brothers At War.
When I saw this trailer two weeks ago, I groaned. I feared another Hollywood movie that made soldiers look like dupes and sadists. But when I saw that Soldiers' Angels was backing the movie, I told my husband that it had the seal of approval and that we ought to go see it.
We attended the premiere tonight with director Jake Rademacher, his brothers, and Gary Sinise. It was such a good movie...and I'm not just saying that because I want a non-anti-war movie to do well. It was laugh-out-loud funny in parts, sad in other parts, and above all it was real. Plus it avoided all the typical maudlin crap that most war movies have: the inner angst, the "we did not fight the enemy; we fought ourselves" voice-overs, or the sniveling soldiers who make me look like an emotional Rambo.
I can't recommend the movie enough.
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SHARING A ROOM
I have been surprised at how many people were shocked that I shared an ultrasound room. Is it because it's a military hospital? I've never tried to have a baby anywhere else. But there's always been more than one person in the room when I've been there for an ultrasound, just never someone so loud and obnoxious. None of you readers who had babies on other installations had to double-up on ultrasound rooms?
Oh, and I totally called it: I've already had two people tell me that yesterday's news was good. One was even excited about it. Wow.
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HE SURVIVED
The first thing my husband did was quote Raising Arizona with a big grin on his face: "When there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand." "You ate sand?" I smiled back. "We ate SAND," he finished.
He told me was that SERE was so much worse than he ever imagined. I said that I had been crying and worrying about him all week. His response: "You definitely should have been."
The thing about SERE is that everyone is supposed to go in fresh. My husband can't tell me a lot what he went through without revealing the confidential parts of the course, but suffice it to say that the few things that he was allowed to tell me me were plain awful. And I know there are more things that he can't explain in mere words even if he could, things I will never be able to understand.
He said he came away from the training with so much respect for people like John McCain. My husband spent a few days as a simulated prisoner, and he said it was enough to make you wish you were dead. He said he cannot imagine how POWs survived for years on end in a real prison, with real guards and real solitary confinement and real torture.
One facet of the desperation they felt can be summed up by a story he told. During the evasion part, my husband was lucky enough to happen upon a snake. He killed it and then carried the dead snake with him until the next day when they could safely make a fire and eat it. But the saddest part was when he said that he was so miserable from the weather that he didn't even notice how starving he was. And he was starving enough that he lost more than 20 pounds in one week.
But he's been in a good mood since the moment I saw him grinning at me. I suppose liberation from such an ordeal must make you happy in so many ways.
Me, I had trouble falling asleep last night and woke up very early this morning, listening to him breathe -- and hack and cough, since his weakened condition has made him sicker than I've ever seen him -- and just being so thankful that he's home, and thankful that the whole thing was simulated.
All I could think about all week was how wives of real POWs could bear it. I couldn't bear one week of agony, knowing that somewhere out there my husband was being mistreated...by paid professionals who only mean to teach the soldiers valuable lessons. I don't know how ladies in the past woke up every morning knowing that their husbands were truly being tortured.
And his hands. His poor hands, destroyed from clawing his way through thorn bushes under a new moonin the pouring rain to evade the enemy. Every time I see them, it's a reminder of all he went through.
But he survived. He returned with honor. And I'm very proud of him.
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I am in awe.
I'm surprised you were able to write something about SERE so well and so quickly. I can barely find the words for this little note.
I want to congratulate and thank him. He went through hell for what he believes in - for his country - for us. I will never even begin to understand, but I must recognize his achievement.
I will be thinking of him - and you - as he recovers. His body will eventually heal, but he will always remember ...
Posted by: Amritas at March 07, 2009 05:48 AM (Wxe3L)
THIS IS TOO HARD
I don't know if I can take this. My heart hurts:
When I wrote the other day about bearing my burden while my husband is at SERE, I had no idea that the scales would tip towards him so quickly. He has begun his last week of the class, which means he's at the "practical application" point of survival, evasion, resistance, and escape. And my heart hurts so bad for him because it's been pouring rain. Just pouring. And they're forecasting snow for tomorrow.
I know my husband is a tough guy and that he'll figure out how to get through this week, but there is nothing that hurts me more than the thought of him suffering. I've sat here all weekend in my warm house with my electric blanket, and the sound of the unrelenting rain is just killing me.
It makes me cry to picture him trying to survive outside in this weather. It is a far heavier burden than anything happening to me.
The sound of that rain is just paralyzing me. It makes me sick. It makes me want to go find where is he is rescue him.
I can't stop worrying about him.
It's a different form of the agony of the unknown that we feel when we stand and wait.
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I would call this the agony of the known. You knew what he was getting into, long before the rain started. And now every time you look out your window, you can see the conditions tormenting him. They are concrete, whereas the Middle East was abstract. We're still cavepeople who are more moved by what we see with our own eyes. We can close them, but we can't forget ... especially not when we feel cold ... and when you knit things that will keep others warm.
I hope thoughts of you are keeping him warm.
Posted by: Amritas at March 01, 2009 08:23 AM (Wxe3L)
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That is the thing about worry, it makes things worse. Now you must imagine him as strong and capable and taking care of the situation and I hope that is working well for him. Just keep thinking, he is prepared, he knows what to do. He can handle this. And yes, it is by far, worse than what you are going through but it will be over and he knows when that will be.
Posted by: Ruth H at March 01, 2009 10:21 AM (4u82p)
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I haven't been here, but I can relate what you're saying to other places I have been--and I'm very sorry. Wish there was something better than that to say. . . .
Posted by: Lucy at March 01, 2009 02:05 PM (HGFog)
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He has chosen this to make him stronger - and it will. Even as you are sad, I know you are simultaneously proud as you should be. I hope he never needs to use what he learns there, but if he does, it will have been time and effort well spent.
With all the craziness happening in the world, politics, and economics, it encourages me to think of the two of you as part of our next generation.
Posted by: MaryIndiana at March 02, 2009 02:05 PM (XWWz+)
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Thank goodness I was rather oblivious when flyboy went years ago, but the wondering and waiting does bite. big time. I know remembering that this makes him a tougher warrior doesnt help right at this moment but I betcha when he comes home he's going to remember it pretty fondly. At some point... maybe not right away!
Posted by: the mrs. at March 03, 2009 04:48 AM (NJQf+)
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Aw heck... it'll give him great stories to tell and quite honestly, they're not going to let him have an untimely demise.
Me... I'm bad. I'd be snuggled up under extra blankets and would later tell him I kept EXTRA warm for him
Posted by: Meadowlark at March 03, 2009 11:49 AM (SXBsQ)
GONE AGAIN
I dropped my husband off for SERE school this morning. I was cold just sitting in the car for 30 minutes; I shudder to think how cold it will be for them outside during the escape and evade parts.
Yesterday, a friend asked me what in the heck SERE even is. There was a CNN Presents about it some years back. From the article:
What goes on at the school is three weeks of "stress inoculation" via a course the Army calls Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape, or SERE. The school provides a realistic setting for soldiers to learn how to live off the land if they are cut off from friendly forces. Students also learn how to evade the enemy and escape if hunted down and finally how to resist if captured, imprisoned and tortured.
[...]
Much of the school's training is classified. But Chief Warrant Officer Mike Durant credits the training for helping him survive 10 days in captivity in 1993 when the Black Hawk helicopter he was piloting was shot down in Mogadishu, Somalia.
To prepare commandos who are at high risk of capture, the course includes sleep deprivation and food deprivation -- severe enough that, over the course of survival school, a student typically drops 15 pounds.
The article has photos of guys eating worms and being taken prisoner. The last photo breaks my heart.
I can hardly bear the thought of someone hurting my husband, even in training. This is going to be a long three weeks for my heart...and his poor body.
He got out of the car and loaded himself up with at least 50 lbs of gear. And as I looked at him, "three words went through my mind endlessly, repeating themselves like a broken record: 'You're so cool. You're so cool. You're so cool.'"
It was harder for me to let him go this morning than it was last year when he deployed.
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Don't forget Scott O'Grady in 1995. He was shot
down over Bosnia and had to eat bugs for 6 days
before getting rescued. But they didn't capture
him and he had his training to thank.
I will keep a good thought for you and your DH as he goes through this..
Posted by: MaryIndiana at February 16, 2009 03:26 AM (alEvL)
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sarah - thinking of you and your husband. When I was in college, I dated someone going thru ranger school and wow that was really hard on him (and me)
Posted by: Keri at February 16, 2009 05:29 AM (HXpRG)
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I know I shouldn't say I'm excited for you guys. But I am. Mostly for him. He'll hate it and be glad he did it.
But I'm weird that way. (and a former jarhead)
Posted by: Meadowlark at February 16, 2009 08:34 AM (SXBsQ)
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Wow...that is crazy stuff...I will be thinking of you and your husband over the next three weeks. I can imagine it was pretty tough to say goodbye to him. I appreciate both you and your husband and what you both go through to help keep the rest of us safe.
Posted by: Stacy at February 16, 2009 08:54 AM (d3Lw1)
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Eek. As valuable as that training is, my heart hurts for you to have to allow him to go through it. Makes me feel like a wimp for feeling the same way just sending Hubby off to BMT... *hugs*
Posted by: kannie at February 16, 2009 10:33 AM (iT8dn)
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We watched this show a while back http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2008/09/military_survival_090108/ it was pretty cool - not sure if it's on DVD.
Good luck with the next few weeks!!
Posted by: Beth at February 16, 2009 01:19 PM (HLKMP)
Posted by: deskmerc at February 16, 2009 11:30 PM (o/QXM)
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My husband did SERE back when he was a Marine. He said that despite being hungry and cold, he really enjoyed the training and learned quite a bit from it. The experience made him a fantastic navigator, and gave him a ton of skills that have come in handy even in just his everyday training.
So even though it's hard now, I think a lot of the guys come out of it grateful for the experience. Hang in there.
Posted by: Leofwende at February 17, 2009 07:09 AM (jAos7)
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My husband did SERE back when he was a Marine. He said that despite being hungry and cold, he really enjoyed the training and learned quite a bit from it. The experience made him a fantastic navigator, and gave him a ton of skills that have come in handy even in just his everyday training.
So even though it's hard now, I think a lot of the guys come out of it grateful for the experience. Hang in there.
Posted by: Leofwende at February 17, 2009 07:09 AM (jAos7)
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My husband did SERE back when he was a Marine. He said that despite being hungry and cold, he really enjoyed the training and learned quite a bit from it. The experience made him a fantastic navigator, and gave him a ton of skills that have come in handy even in just his everyday training.
So even though it's hard now, I think a lot of the guys come out of it grateful for the experience. Hang in there.
Posted by: Leofwende at February 17, 2009 07:09 AM (jAos7)
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I'm not sure if the Army school is the same one that the Marines go too, I'm sure they are the same but different sort of thing. But if its any comfort my husband went thru the school and LOVED it. I mean he was black and blue when I saw him after and said they did do some not so nice things and ate some not so yummy stuff (I'm comforting you arent I?) but he wishes he could do it again. Really, he loved it. Hmmm maybe this doesnt paint my husband in the best light?
Good luck getting thru the next couple weeks, its always harder on the ones at home. : )
Posted by: the mrs. at February 17, 2009 09:00 AM (NJQf+)
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It sounds brutal – but something my husband would probably love to do, too.
Heck, I would think it was fun, too, if I were in better shape.
Praying for you, Sarah. I would be a ball of stress, too. *Hugs!*
Posted by: Deltasierra at February 17, 2009 09:34 AM (fPHZv)
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Oh the stories I could tell you about SERE. He does get to eat a bunny
don't worry ... they can't do any physcial permanent damage. He's a trooper! You'll do great! *hugs*
Posted by: Darla at February 17, 2009 02:27 PM (LP4DK)
THE DEPLOYMENT IS OVER. LONG LIVE THE DEPLOYMENT!
I can't believe my husband has almost been home for a month.
I also can't believe that he will deploy again in about 25 weeks, and he came home with a training schedule last night showing that he will be gone for nine of those weeks. So much for dwell time. We now have this ridiculous calendar which is an overlay of his training and my fertility.
Also, I've been chuckling that my husband's branch is supposed to alternate between a combat deployment and a non-combat one. His combat one was Iraq; his upcoming non-combat one is being attached to the Navy SEALs in Afghanistan. Cuz that makes total sense.
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lol. That voice is hilarious.
Sorry to hear he's deploying again so soon, and that he's got so much in the field training before then. That's really frustrating, especially when ttc.
*hugs* Sarah.
Posted by: loefwende at January 16, 2009 06:21 AM (28CBm)
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I can't believe in a few hours it'll be exactly four weeks since the moment we were all waiting for. The memory of uncertainty is still too fresh.
I was worried about you then, and I'll be worried about you for the next six months as you struggle with a different kind of uncertainty.
Posted by: Amritas at January 16, 2009 07:50 AM (+nV09)
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We're right about there with you on the timeframe. And yes, it kills me that MacGyver will be gone a large portion of the "dwell time" too. Gah.
Hugs to you, my friend.
Posted by: HomefrontSix at January 16, 2009 10:44 PM (4Es1w)
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Wow, so the government likes to keep things complicated for you huh?
Posted by: Sarah at January 18, 2009 08:09 AM (LP4DK)
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Wow so the government likes to keep things complicated for you?
Posted by: Darla at January 18, 2009 10:19 AM (TWet1)
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--Sminklemeyer--
You've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting --General Curtis Lemay--
If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained -- we must fight! --Patrick Henry--
America has never been united by blood or birth or soil. We are bound by ideals that move us beyond our backgrounds, lift us above our interests and teach us what it means to be citizens. Every child must be taught these principles. Every citizen must uphold them. And every immigrant, by embracing these ideals, makes our country more, not less, American. --President George W. Bush--
are usually just cheerleading sessions, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing but a soothing reduction in blood pressure brought about by the narcotic high of being agreed with. --Bill Whittle
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
--John Stuart Mill--
We are determined that before the sun sets on this terrible struggle, our flag will be recognized throughout the world as a symbol of freedom on the one hand and of overwhelming force on the other. --General George Marshall--
We can continue to try and clean up the gutters all over the world and spend all of our resources looking at just the dirty spots and trying to make them clean. Or we can lift our eyes up and look into the skies and move forward in an evolutionary way.
--Buzz Aldrin--
America is the greatest, freest and most decent society in existence. It is an oasis of goodness in a desert of cynicism and barbarism. This country, once an experiment unique in the world, is now the last best hope for the world.
--Dinesh D'Souza--
Recent anti-Israel protests remind us again of our era's peculiar alliance: the most violent, intolerant, militantly religious movement in modern times has the peace movement on its side. --James Lileks--
As a wise man once said: we will pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
Unless the price is too high, the burden too great, the hardship too hard, the friend acts disproportionately, and the foe fights back. In which case, we need a timetable.
--James Lileks--
I am not willing to kill a man so that he will agree with my faith, but I am prepared to kill a man so that he cannot force my compatriots to submit to his.
--Froggy--
You can say what you want about President Bush; but the truth is that he can take a punch. The man has taken a swift kick in the crotch for breakfast every day for 6 years and he keeps getting up with a smile in his heart and a sense of swift determination to see the job through to the best of his abilties.
--Varifrank--
In a perfect world, We'd live in peace and love and harmony with each oither and the world, but then, in a perfect world, Yoko would have taken the bullet.
--SarahBellum--
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. --Ronald Reagan--
America is rather like life. You can usually find in it what you look for. It will probably be interesting, and it is sure to be large. --E.M. Forster--
Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. --Mark Twain--
The Enlightenment was followed by the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars, which touched every European state, sparked vicious guerrilla conflicts across the Continent and killed millions. Then, things really turned ugly after the invention of soccer. --Iowahawk--
Every time I meet an Iraqi Army Soldier or Policeman that I haven't met before, I shake his hand and thank him for his service. Many times I am thanked for being here and helping his country. I always tell them that free people help each other and that those that truly value freedom help those seeking it no matter the cost. --Jack Army--
Right, left - the terms are useless nowadays anyway. There are statists, and there are individualists. There are pessimists, and optimists. There are people who look backwards and trust in the West, and those who look forward and trust in The World. Those are the continuums that seem to matter the most right now. --Lileks--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
--Winston Churchill--
A man or a nation is not placed upon this earth to do merely what is pleasant and what is profitable. It is often called upon to carry out what is both unpleasant and unprofitable, but if it is obviously right it is mere shirking not to undertake it. --Arthur Conan Doyle--
A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself. --John Stuart Mill--
After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." --Dave Grossman--
At heart I’m a cowboy; my attitude is if they’re not going to stand up and fight for what they believe in then they can go pound sand. --Bill Whittle--
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. --Alexander Tyler--
By that time a village half-wit could see what generations of professors had pretended not to notice. --Atlas Shrugged--
I kept asking Clarence why our world seemed to be collapsing and everything seemed so shitty. And he'd say, "That's the way it goes, but don't forget, it goes the other way too." --Alabama Worley--
So Bush is history, and we have a new president who promises to heal the planet, and yet the jihadists don’t seem to have got the Obama message that there are no enemies, just friends we haven’t yet held talks without preconditions with.
--Mark Steyn--
"I had started alone in this journey called life, people started
gathering up on the way, and the caravan got bigger everyday." --Urdu couplet
The book and the sword are the two things that control the world. We either gonna control them through knowledge and influence their minds, or we gonna bring the sword and take their heads off. --RZA--
It's a daily game of public Frogger, hopping frantically to avoid being crushed under the weight of your own narcissism, banality, and plain old stupidity. --Mary Katharine Ham--
There are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms
of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. --James Madison--
It is in the heat of emotion that good people must remember to stand on principle. --Larry Elder--
Please show this to the president and ask him to remember the wishes of the forgotten man, that is, the one who dared to vote against him. We expect to be tramped on but we do wish the stepping would be a little less hard. --from a letter to Eleanor Roosevelt--
The world economy depends every day on some engineer, farmer, architect, radiator shop owner, truck driver or plumber getting up at 5AM, going to work, toiling hard, and producing real wealth so that an array of bureaucrats, regulators, and redistributors can manage the proper allotment of much of the natural largess produced. --VDH--
Parents are often so busy with the physical rearing of children that they miss the glory of parenthood, just as the grandeur of the trees is lost when raking leaves. --Marcelene Cox--