June 25, 2007
NOT HAPPY
So far I have been a fan of the
Army Wives TV show. I think they do a decent job of portraying what our lives are like. But last night's episode didn't sit well with me at all.
In a nutshell, there was a situation where a sergeant took the lieutenant colonel's husband hostage because he was mad about events that happened in Afghanistan. It wasn't the hostage situation that I thought was bad; it was the events in Afghanistan.
According to this story, a "patrol" (no idea how many soldiers) was ambushed and was heavily outnumbered. This guy, the hostage taker, was wounded by shrapnel, so they left him in the Afghan village to be taken care of by the locals and went back to the FOB for reenforcements. But "because of the heat", they couldn't get back to rescue him for days, so the Afghan family took care of him. Once he was rescued, he vowed to come back and help the family. So this sergeant, his lieutenant colonel, and three other soldiers went back to the village to take medical supplies and food, only to find that 12 "heavily-armed" insurgents were burning down the house and raping the 10-year-old daughter in the middle of the street. Because they were outnumbered 12 to 5, and because "the Rules of Engagement are clear: do not interfere with civilian affairs", the lieutenant colonel told them to maintain their positions and stay hidden while they watched a child get raped and murdered.
OK, where to begin. I know I am not a soldier, and I know neither I nor my husband can possibly know all of the strange circumstances that arise in battle. But I cannot imagine any situation of any kind where a unit would leave a wounded soldier behind in an Afghan household. Period. And not for days on end because of the heat! It also seems ridiculous that a lieutenant colonel would roll around Kandahar with a four-man team. My husband's LTC had an entire platoon of entourage at all times, at least 20 men. It seems a bit of a stretch to me that anyone besides Special Forces types are going anywhere in our war zones with only five people! I just don't think that's realistic. So they would've never been outnumbered if they'd taken a proper number of soldiers on this mission.
Finally, the Rules of Engagement thing is not exactly the way my husband describes it. He quoted me a common rule of thumb: a unit might be authorized to use deadly force in circumstances where there is loss of "life, limb, or eyesight." He thinks the rape of a 10 year old in broad daylight would be grounds for a fight, especially if this child belongs to a family who is a known supporter of the American military operation. Again we go back to them being outnumbered 12 to 5, which I don't see ever happening, but my husband did say that in times when you might be extremely outnumbered, there might be cause to not intervene. But this whole "do not interfere with civilian affairs" thing was junk to him because, as he quipped, all al Qaeda types are civilians, so not intervening in civilian matters would apply to everything!
Yeah, yeah, Sarah, all this is just details. But this is the stuff that matters, in my opinion. Most of the people who don't like Army Wives are saying they don't like it because officers don't hang out with enlisted, because you wouldn't get a citation for not mowing on your first day in housing, because a female officer wouldn't be dancing drunk in a jody bar. They think all that stuff gives us a bad impression to civilian viewers.
What about the civilian viewers who now think that American soldiers will sit back and watch a 10 year old get raped and murdered? That our Rules of Engagement won't let us step in and prevent insurgents from killing an innocent family and burning their home? That we are married to men who sit by and do nothing while vile insurgents ruin people's lives? That's a far more dangerous picture to paint for civilians than whether we have all-rank tea parties.
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Don't worry, you weren't the only one who got irked on this. But I was NOT happy with the hostage situation, either. How many of those have you seen? Me neither. But they show it like it's some event that is within the normal scope of events.
Not to mention my hubby having conniptions about the Delta Force sniper shooting the soldier, even though he has no law enforcement authority.
Finally, I read an interview Catherine Bell gave to Star Magazine (yes, I know, it was Star) and she just does. not. get. it. That bothers me very much. Perhaps they'll get enough screams over this episode that they'll hone the future ones much better.
Posted by: airforcewife at June 25, 2007 09:29 AM (0dU3f)
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Don't they have anyone working for the show that was (or is) actually affiliated with the Army? If they don't, they need to. Luckily, I haven't watched the show, but I think it would tick me off.
Posted by: Erin at June 26, 2007 05:13 AM (XRza7)
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Since they are almost done or done with filming, my guess is that we will see this sort of thing AGAIN.
I was a little upset, they keep villianizing people with PTSD, this is certainly not going to help in the battle for awareness and money to fix the problem.
Posted by: armywifetoddlermom at June 26, 2007 07:15 AM (PpMPm)
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I don't think they "get" PTSD, period. The LTC seems to have more issues with reintegration than with PTSD, but they keep calling it PTSD. The semantics of disorder names may not seem like a big deal to some people, but it is a HUGE deal for me. Like telling someone with chicken pox they have the measles.
Yeah, yeah - spots and bumps. But they are NOT the same thing - even if they often go together.
Posted by: airforcewife at June 26, 2007 09:56 AM (0dU3f)
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That entire episode just irked the ^^#%&%$ out of me. I cannot understand why they didn't think the drama of the chopper down was enough drama for one episode! and can anyone tell me why they didn't show the rest of the spouses (there WERE more people on that chopper weren't there?)gathering around?
the PTSD crap is making me nuts. and I'm just worried that the civilians are getting the wrong idea about veterans and the families as well. We don't need to have this kind of dis information out there.
LAW
Posted by: LAW at June 26, 2007 03:50 PM (2nDll)
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These shows rarely get it right. "The Unit" is no better. Each week is the same theme. The unit guys doing cool stuff (but never getting close to the actual war) while Big Army each week is trying to hose the average soldier. Bring back JAG. At least they got the uniforms right.
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June 18, 2007
MILITARY READS
After the Milblogs Conference, CaliValleyGirl
wrote:
Since my boyfriend/fiancé has returned, I have distanced myself from the Milblogging community. Not really on purpose, but just because once my soldier returned I wanted to celebrate his being home, act like we were a “normal” couple, doing normal couple things
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When he was deployed I knew everything that was going on, the names of operations, the areas of operations, how things were going in these areas. I would check the names of fallen soldiers and read about their lives. I read milblogs religiously. I sought out new connections, searching for degrees of separation. I lived and breathed the war on terror. And I was shocked, shocked I tell you, that other people didnÂ’t share my fervor in following all things combat related.
I often complain that war is too distant from the general public. Because of the deployments, soldiers clock-in and then clock-out of the war. They arenÂ’t in war mode the whole time. And consequently their families arenÂ’t in war mode. I complain about the general public lacking the passion to fight this war, but I realize that I am just as much part of that problem. As soon as my boyfriend came back, I clocked-out.
Over the weekend, I realized that if you aren’t a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. I had subconsciously become one of those people who lives as if we aren’t at war. And part of me thought that in 2 ½ years things might be over in Iraq and Afghanistan, and my fiancé won’t be deploying again. That this war doesn’t really directly affect me anymore. Over the weekend I realized that I hope my fiancé deploys again in 2 ½ years. Because if he doesn’t deploy, it means that we have given up.
I can completely understand her feelings here. And I applaud her for expressing them so honestly; when I tried to bring this up once on SpouseBUZZ, it didn't work out so well.
I still spend roughly the same time online as I did when my husband was deployed, but the hunger for frontline stories isn't as deep as it was when he was gone. Back then I needed to feel connected to Iraq in a different way than I do now. And while I am just as emotionally invested in the outcome of the war, I know that I too am half-clocked out. Or at least enjoying the idea that I have the luxury of being half-clocked out until next year.
But I am trying to reconnect with what I've let go since March 2005. So I offer some military reads today.
Read this day in the life of Greyhawk.
Read this old Matt Sanchez story if you missed it.
And read this encounter with a suicide bomber from Tadpole.
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Your contributions as a Blogger are as important as any marine's fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan. Please keep that in mind. The Milbloggers are the source of the _real_ information about the "War against Terror and Islamofaschism".
Posted by: Zeno Davatz at June 18, 2007 09:37 PM (FcYJW)
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I'm not proud of it, but I've done my own share of clocking out since my sweetheart redeployed. I still pay attention, but I don't obsess anymore.
Not to make excuses, but do you think part of the reason we do this is to give ourselves a break from the constant worry and burden we lived with during deployment? Maybe we're just replenishing our sanity reserve for the next tour.
Posted by: Bette at June 20, 2007 07:47 AM (ICdbF)
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June 16, 2007
RECOVERING
Just...
dang.
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thank you for leading me to Josie. Her husband is in the same BCT as mine.
LAW
Posted by: liberal army wife at June 17, 2007 04:34 AM (A5s0y)
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Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! djarhqlmwzdfis
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June 14, 2007
LOVE THAT PERSPECTIVE
Happy Birthday, Army!
Last night we watched the movie The Great Raid. As a wife, I find watching movies like that extremely sobering, for there's no way to feel sorry about 15 month OIF deployments once you've imagined your husband a Bataan Death March POW. There's nothin' like a healthy dose of Perspective.
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May I suggest a GREAT book on the subject,it's called Ghost Soldiers.
Posted by: tim at June 14, 2007 03:37 AM (nno0f)
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Absolutely about the perspective.
Posted by: airforcewife at June 14, 2007 03:40 AM (0dU3f)
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Consider the perspective that it brings to those of us who *don't* have a husband (or wife) in uniform! That movie was hard to watch, but absolutely necessary ... and humbling.
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June 11, 2007
THE REAL WORLD
The other day ArmyWifeToddlerMom let down her hair and
griped about the media. She mentioned that Ben Affleck was on the TV and the news station labeled him "political activist", to which I commented
What I find delicious is when actors like Ben Affleck -- people who, at worst, dropped out of high school or, at best, attended a few college classes -- act like they know so much more than the stupid, downtrodden, brainwashed soldiers -- people who, at worst, dropped out of high school but got a GED or, more often than not, attended a few college classes. Why exactly is Ben Affleck's opinion on foreign affairs considered more valuable than an Army specialist's? They have nearly the same schooling, but the specialist has actually done more in the real world...
This morning I found a post from one such specialist, working in the real world. He's seen more in his Fifteen Months and Counting than Ben Affleck has in his whole life.
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Ben Affleck is to "political activist" = me is to Academy Award Wining Actor.
Damn, IÂ’m putting that on my resume. (WhereÂ’s did I put my SAG card).
Posted by: tim at June 11, 2007 11:49 AM (nno0f)
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Sarah,
I wish I could do a let your hair down post like you...I seem to resort to nasty language.
I hope my Pastor NEVER finds my blog...
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June 05, 2007
WE REMEMBER
At the edge of the cliffs, the wind is a smack, and D-day becomes wildly clear:
climbing that cutting edge into the bullets.
-- John Vinocur
photos taken by Sarah
Normandy, France 1999
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I can only imagine how moving it must be to stand in such a place. Thank you for sharing.
Posted by: Butterfly Wife at June 05, 2007 06:58 PM (1Y/h6)
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Beautiful post and photos...
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What beautiful pictures!
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ALWAYS SATISFIED
Our old neighbor was an Army dentist, and I asked him once if there was any difference in having soldiers for patients. He said he loved having soldier patients, because they never argue or complain. He said most of the time they fall asleep in the chair and he can do all his dental work without issue.
I love that soldiers can sleep anywhere, eat anything, and be happy doing whatever it takes. My husband can sit in the hottest, loudest, most cramped airplane seat and be fine, because it's still more comfortable than a tank.
I love soldiers more than anything, which is why I got such a kick out of Lemon Stand's post about soldiers eating in an Air Force chow hall.
I can totally imagine their faces. I love it.
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Haha! You can really open a can of worms with this one.
In the late 70s, my brother and I were both home on leave. He was in the Air Force and I was (and still am) Army. Because of a shortage, he was never issued boots (he was in personnel). He was so impressed with mine that I went to Army clothing sales and bought him a pair just so he would have one. I have no idea if he ever wore it.
Fast forward to 1984, now assigned to the 15th Engineers at Ft Lewis, WA. We're doing field duty at Yakima Firing Center. It's a desert area in central Washington state. We lived in fighting positions and ate food out of small, green cans (C-rations). The Air Force team with us kept complaining about the substandard living conditions. They were soon told to "shut up or they can make their own camp". They promptly moved across the road from us. So as we sat in our foxholes, no baths, and eating C-rats; we watched them tanning in lawn chairs, sleeping in civilian tents, and the occasional Domino's Pizza delivery. At night, as we observed light discipline, we could see their lights, TVs, and hear their generators humming.
No one ever said life was fair.
Posted by: R1 at June 05, 2007 04:04 PM (9JS9f)
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My DH can sleep anywhere. Even standing up! most of my other army wife friends say that too... amazing. BUT he hates the dentist, doesn't fall asleep there!
LAW
Posted by: LAW at June 06, 2007 02:11 AM (h/YdH)
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When I was stationed in Kuwait I used to hate going to work on the AF computers, it was very depressing for a Army soldier to go from the Dirt and Tents of the dessert to the ballroom of the 4 star hotel where the AF was 'camped' at. But it was nice every now and then to get in to the ac and to eat of the free buffet line. So much better then the damn MRE's.
Posted by: dagamore at June 06, 2007 02:48 AM (vdcdn)
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Reminds me of the last phase of Ranger School, which is located at Camp Rudder, on the back side of Eglin AFB. By the time we came in from the field portion of the phase, we were extraordinarily dirty and hungry. But, because Camp Rudder is on an Air Force Base, the mess hall was run to Air Force standards. For a bunch of guys to whom an extra MRE was heaven, being able to eat that great Air Force chow was too much. I seem to recall a number of us eating ourselves sick, then going back for seconds. Yes, at Air Force mess halls, you can go back for seconds!
Posted by: Chadd at June 06, 2007 03:29 AM (roGJq)
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I'm so glad you liked the post. The base I was living on at the time of this story was Peterson AFB in Colorado which is located on the east side of Colorado Springs. To the south is Fort Carson, a very large Army base that starts at the base of Cheyenne Mountain (home of NORAD where I worked) and stretches far to the south. Among other things they train in the tanks down range which consists of some very dry desert-like conditions.
On the north side of the city is the Air Force Academy. (Believe me, the Army-Air Force games were UNBELIEVABLE! hmmm, that would probably be a good post too...)
R1 - if you were eating C-Rats I feel REALLY bad for you. They haven't been making them since the MRE's came out (to my knowledge) so that had to be pretty old. Although they are supposed to have an incredibly long shelf life... I always seemed to get stuck with the pound cake that tasted like sand. Even when you put the peaches with it, it was barely edible.
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June 04, 2007
GETTING OUT
I just found a great post from a Marine's girlfriend over at
Loquita's Blog. At this point, he is talking about getting out because he doesn't want to put her through a deployment. This bothers her.
I don't want LT to make a decision about staying in the Marine Corps based on not wanting to put me through the lack of work-life balance inherent in the military lifestyle - intense training schedules, never-ending and always inconvenient or last-minute (or both) changes to those schedules, and of course deployments.
...
Maybe I've just become too invested in my mil-spouse persona, and I don't want to give up the feeling of having a shared bond with others... And as ashamed as I am to admit it, I'd go so far as to say I don't want to give up on this new kind of clique that I'm eligible to be a member of.
And who would LT be if he wasn't a Marine? How will my view of him change, and what will our life be like post-USMC? I don't even know for sure what career or profession he would end up in. He talks about becoming a firefighter or a police officer. But how would he or I know if those jobs are any more conducive to maintaining a good work-life balance? At this point, I've adjusted to the military thing, I've found support through reading blogs online, and I'm not anxious to go through any more big changes...
I can completely relate to this feeling. When my husband applied for Civil Affairs the first time and didn't get in, he decided he would get out of the Army. And I cried. Oh how I cried. And tried to pretend I wasn't crying, because it's his job and his choice to make, and I didn't want him to stay in just so his wife would stop crying.
Often we hear about wives who urge their husbands to get out of the military. But it's something entirely different to urge your husband to stay in. You can emotionally blackmail someone to stop doing what he loves, but how do you make him keep doing something you want him to do...without the blackmail?
I was so scared, lying there in the dark that night, talking about getting out. What would we do? Where would we go? All we've ever known together has been the Army, and I was terrified about getting out. Terrified about finding another job, devastated about letting go of retiring at 42, and scared to death that he'd get another job only to find he hated the civilian world even more than he hated Army Finance.
But how could I make him stay? I wasn't the one doing an unsatisfying job. I wasn't the one who felt betrayed by the Army because I'd offered to make myself more useful only to have them brush me off. I wasn't the one who ultimately had to choose.
Luckily, he wasn't at the point where he could get out quickly. Luckily he still owed the Army another three years after that fateful night, and he managed to find his way into Civil Affairs a year later. And he's happy again.
But could I have really let him get out? I don't really like to think about that. If the situation came up again, we'd discuss again.
And I'd cry. Oh how I'd cry.
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Since we started this crazy pre-deployment, mobilization, now deployment thing 17+ months ago, I have been encouraging my husband (Army Reserves) to get MORE into Army. He has been accepted into AGR. I understand the inclusion and exclusiveness of military life. I feel like I am only on the edge of the pool, but I like how the water feels on my feet. I'd like to dive on in.
Posted by: Butterfly Wife at June 04, 2007 09:05 AM (+2qii)
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My Hubby got out after 6 years active Navy and did on year of "loafing" then went into the Guard. We were still young and I did not really know how to open my mouth yetto say I wanted him to stay active duty. I grew up AF and became a Navy wife turned Army National Guard wife. Oh how I wish I had know how much Hubby wanted to stay in. I miss the active duty and being around others in the same boat all the time.
Now he feels to old to go active duty and these last two deployments have taken alot out of him and me too. I can't blame him. Our oldest has already started talking to recuters and trying to decide which service is best for him.
Wow to think I thought I was the only wife out there who wanted their husband to stay in the military.
Posted by: Reasa at June 04, 2007 02:34 PM (JfF5d)
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Thanks for checking out my blog Sarah - it was really interesting to read your own thoughts on this since you've been in this boat a lot longer than me.
"Often we hear about wives who urge their husbands to get out of the military. But it's something entirely different to urge your husband to stay in."
Sometimes when I talk to my boyfriend's family, I feel like they almost resent the fact that I don't try to push him to get out. They talk about his upcoming EAS as if he's getting out for sure, and there's not even a decision to make.
Reasa, you described the same thing I'm worried about: "Oh how I wish I had know how much Hubby wanted to stay in." I'm terrified that he won't accept my acceptance (bad wording, I know) of the military lifestyle, and he'll sacrifice something he wants to do because he thinks he has to do it to keep me. I wish his family hadn't always been so critical of his decision to be in the military - I feel like he's so conditioned to their attitude that he can't even comprehend mine... It definitely makes me feel better that there are other out there like me!
Posted by: loquita at June 04, 2007 05:45 PM (nEjmo)
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We have been "loafing" around in the civilan world for the past seven months. And honestly, we both hate it. I hope his paperwork goes through fast.
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