January 05, 2012
SAVING THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY
I had a D&C today. I took the meds last week and they didn't work.
Back in 2008, when I had my second miscarriage, the doctor I saw at the military hospital counseled me on my options. He told me that I could have another D&C but that it would "cost the taxpayers a lot of money," so might I consider taking the meds instead.
But death panels will never happen, right? Heh.
Truthfully, his comment didn't really bother me that much because, heck, I'm the queen of trying to save the taxpayers money. I have
bought my own prenantal vitamins for the past five years. I diligently washed every piece of plastic and metal in Germany not because I care at all about recycling but because I learned that the US government pays the country of Germany by the pound to dispose of our refuse.
And I have taken cytotec in my own home for every miscarriage since the first one, to try to save the taxpayers money.
Which is funny because, the more I think about it now, I don't really think I was saving any money at our last installation. Follow me here on this one: the doctors on post are military personnel, which means they draw a base pay. They don't get paid per procedure. The doc himself doesn't get paid more to do a D&C instead of me taking the meds; the only thing that gets taken up is time. Time is the money in the military health care system. If I have a D&C, I take up a surgery time slot for that day. Maybe the doc would do a different surgery. Maybe he would do something else during that time instead if there was nothing scheduled that day. But he would still be there at work and he would still just draw his base pay like every other soldier. Yes, there's money being spent for the upkeep of the hospital and the anesthesia has to be paid for and so on, and I don't doubt that a D&C is just empirically more expensive than ten little pills in the comfort of your own home (i.e. lying on your back on the bathroom tile), but in some sense, it was no skin off the Army hospital's neck if I had to have a D&C. In fact, the place was straight-up dead over the summer when I had my second one; they said doctors PCS at that time and there's nothing elective scheduled for those months, so I was the only person in there.
Anyway, I am rambling.
But now that we live elsewhere, we go to a civilian doctor. That means the taxpayers actually do have to pay the going rate to a doctor for whatever medical choices I make.
And I do think about it. A lot.
My husband couldn't believe that a major reason I was balking on the D&C was because of money. Not my money; we won't have to pay for it. But somebody has to. And if I can save us all some collective dollars by writhing at home instead of being sterile and warm in a hospital, then I have tried to do my part for the economy.
But it doesn't seem to be working anymore.
The last time, two rounds of the meds didn't work. This time one round did nothing at all. My doc confirmed that there were no signs whatsoever that I looked like I was close to miscarrying. Lump baby was hanging on as tight as JaMarcus.
So I think I'm going to start having to waste more of your and my precious tax dollars in the future and skip right to the D&Cs.
I tried. But we're gonna have to fix the economy starting somewhere other than my uterus, I guess.
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If anyone deserves to spend the taxpayers money in order to not be writhing on the bathroom floor it is military personnel and their families!! My heart is going out to you right now after having taken cyotec. Love and prayers to you!
Posted by: Tracey at January 05, 2012 08:57 PM (wKx+4)
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I was told by my doctor to stop trying to save money for medicare. She patiently explained that even though it shows the cost of the visit as $$$ they take a discount and get only what the gov't allows anyway, which may only be $$, (or less) so stop worrying about taxpayer money! Now I'm telling you that. Stop worrying about our money, apparently it all belongs to the gov't anyway! And your health is important. Your job is to raise the child you have, in the healthiest way you can. Congressmen spent billions without blinking, you can consider this just part of your husband's pay and benefits.
Posted by: Ruth H at January 07, 2012 05:11 PM (JCV5R)
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Wow. This post was so informative to me. I had no idea that this all took place. Let me say this...if I was actually living in the States and paying taxes to them-I file but don't end up paying because it all comes out in the wash-I would GLADLY pay more so you wouldn't have to lie on your bathroom floor writhing in pain. I think most of us would. As strange as it sounds to say it, you completely deserve to have the D & C. If there is ANYONE that deserves it, it would be you my friend.
Posted by: Stacy at January 07, 2012 09:00 PM (leeJp)
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I think there are a lot of people here who would pool together to pay any hospital bill we could to save you any more pain and discomfort in this shitty, unfair, awful situation. I know I would. You DESERVE to be treated in a safe, sterile, comfortable place. I can't stand the thought of you having to endure all this laying on your bathroom tile.
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December 30, 2011
"HAVE FUN TRYING"
I can't believe I forgot one of my least favorite things people have said over the years...
7) "Well, at least you get to have fun trying!"
Trying to have a baby sucks.
If you have never had to "try" before, you have no idea. And since I'm now way beyond keeping any secrets from the public...I will try to illustrate how "trying to conceive" is very very very different from "making love."
I remember a fight way back in 2007, it was babymaking day and I convinced myself that we ought to try to put some spice back in our life. We had been methodically trying to have a baby for months, and on a whim I decided to be adventuresome and suggested that we do it on the stairs. And my husband vetoed me with a bored voice and wanted to just do it in the bed and get it over with. Then I got all butthurt that I was trying so hard to be sexy and spontaneous and he didn't appreciate it at all. We had a big fight...but then we had to have the sex anyway because it was babymaking day. I vividly remember glaring at him and saying "Just because I'm doing this doesn't mean I actually LIKE you right now."
"Trying" means doing it on a schedule, whether you like it or not. Whether you're sick, whether you just worked a 14 hour day, whether the toddler has been naughty, no matter. You're doing it.
And that schedule weighs on you. THE DAY gets all built up and awkward and burdensome. Here's an example that I emailed to a friend recently after she told me to "have fun trying":
Today is day 14 of my cycle. For me, it seems the best chance of getting pregnant is after day 16. For a man, the best sperm output is after 48 hours of abstinence (so, ahem, wait 2 days, then that's the good stuff.) But yesterday my husband got home from TDY. I missed him. My body is getting hormonally ready for ovulation. I wanted us to be together...but that screws up the rotation. For our best chances to work, being together on Friday and Sunday is ideal, not Thursday. So...you have to avoid being intimate on the day when you really want to be and hope that the feeling is just as strong the next night. Many times this has backfired, where the pressure of "it has to be Friday!!!" ruins the mood: someone is grouchy, someone says something hurtful right as you're going up to bed, whatever.
Or the reverse is true: you decide to go ahead and do it Thursday because you're lovey-dovey and just hope for the best, which wrecks the best odds...and then if you don't get pregnant that month, you blame Thursday for it and vow to never stray from the cycle again. Which means you resent yourself and your husband for giving in to temptation when you knew better and knew you should wait til Friday. Even if there is no empirical evidence that you would've gotten pregnant if you'd just waited til Friday...your brain messes with you.
So that's what I meant by "trying." Once you know all this info -- which day you ovulate, what your cervical mucus is supposed to look like, the 48 hrs of abstinence, the possible effects of orgasm on likelihood of conception -- once you know all this, it's so hard to un-know it and just relax. You scientifically second guess every decision. Which makes the whole process a science experiment instead of being nice and magical.
Not to belabor the point, but I thought I'd add one more anecdote from the same month.
So we knew for two weeks that Sunday night was the best night, because you just know these things when you're in tune with the whole process. Every time you get a period, you know which day that month will give you the best chance of getting pregnant. You can't un-know it. Anyway, I was right and the ovulation predictor pinged in the afternoon. And then in the evening, I got diarrhea. Fun. So my stomach was hurting and having sex was not really high on my list, but we trudged up to bed. Also I was freezing cold, so we lay in bed a bit to warm up. And we started an argument. One of those dumb ones where I was asking about X but he was telling me about Y and I didn't care because I was asking about X and he thought X was irrelevant and Y was what I needed to know. Stupid, but it sure killed the mood when we ended up irritated at each other. So with the mood killed anyway, I asked him to get me some socks because my feet were freezing. I asked for my hospital socks -- between D&Cs and BabyGrok's delivery, I have about five pairs of the free fuzzy socks with grips on the bottom that the Army hospital has given me. He had no idea what I was talking about and brought some other socks. So then I was doubly irritated thinking "How do I know every single piece of clothing you own and when you got it and whether it fits or not, and you know NOTHING about me..." Romance was about the furthest thing from my mind at this point.
And then we had to have sex anyway because it was day 16.
And that's why "trying" to have a baby sucks.
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Can I offer some snark?
"Oh, just relax and enjoy yourself." Yeah, because genetic mutations often respond to one's level of relaxation. Or in my case with the blocked fallopian tube, I am sure that if I were just more relaxed that little egg could fight its way through the blockage. That totally happens.
"Have fun trying." Always fun to have sex on a schedule when even if you get pregnant there's a better than decent chance you won't stay that way. Good times.
On the bright side, once everyone knows your reproductive business you can use the timed intercourse excuse for all sorts of things. Party going too late and you'd rather be home watching something on Netflix? "Hey, listen we'd love to stay, but I just went to the bathroom and my mucus is totally egg white, so we gotta run." Handy, huh?
Posted by: Christa at December 30, 2011 02:12 PM (JnJR0)
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Ha. "Trying" has had its funny moments...like the time we stupidly decided to watch Brokeback Mountain on babymaking night. We climbed into bed and just kinda sat there petrified. "Are you trying way too hard not to think about Heath Ledger?" we both laughed. Awkward!
It was funny there for a while in 2007, when everyone knew we were trying but before it got waaay awful, AWTM would call me like every 28 days just to "see what was going on." "The pregnancy test was negative," I'd always have to say right at the beginning of the conversation to get it out of the way.
Posted by: Sarah at December 30, 2011 03:33 PM (ifOVh)
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I just laughed until I cried with you over the reality that is 'trying'. The 'hurry up and let's get it over so I can return to -insertanythingmorefunatthispoint' attitude. They don't mean to but the glaze over there eyes about our umpteenth hormonally imbalanced fit over milk placement in the fridge is almost glacomic. And I only did the 'trying' for 2 years or so. I would love to go on a walkabout with you with a taser or cattle prod and anytime someone (preferably strangers) pass out illconceived advice we can return the favor? A little too passive aggressive?
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December 29, 2011
WHAT NOT TO SAY TO AN INFERTILE FRIEND
I really enjoyed the book
The Empty Picture Frame. It struck just the right tone between mild sarcasm and heartfelt anguish. CVG got it for me a long time ago, and I held on to it and then read it at just the right time, I think.
I have scoured the internet for a summary of the last chapter, but no luck. I hope the author won't mind if I copy excerpts here, because she did such a good job writing a chapter about what not to say to an infertile person. And I think everyone should read that chapter, not just people who have the need to buy that book.
OK, things not to say to your friends who are having trouble conceiving. Ever. Just really, don't go to these topics unless you've been having a conversation for over and hour and then you very tactfully work them in. But it's probably safer to just avoid it altogether.
1) The story of "the person I know who was in your situation and it worked for them"
Jenna's words:
I think it's part of the human experience to want to connect with those we love. We want to let them know they aren't alone and that there are others out there who have gone through this. The problem is, unless you were one of those people, the anecdote about the friend of a second cousin who had twins after her IVF isn't a story that's going to help.
She goes on to explain that if you have to resort to your second cousin's friend, you really don't understand what the experience is like in any meaningful sense. Plus, telling someone an anecdote about success while she is still living the journey of failure just makes her feel worse. I also think it's dismissive of the agony. Glossing over a story by saying "they had to do IVF twice but then they had twins!" cannot possibly convey the years of heartache and struggle and pain and expense that couple had to go through to get those twins. And how lucky they were in the end to have it work.
2) "You are so stressed out about having a baby. Why don't you try to relax; go on a vacation, take a break from thinking about this."
My least favorite by far.
Jenna's words:
Many infertiles, like me, live in a perpetual state of fear, excitement, and crushing disappointment. To suggest that a vacation is going to fix their problems does nothing more than trivialize those feelings.
She goes on to accurately say that many fertility problems, like irregular ovulation or balanced translocations, are actual medical issues and not something that going to Hawaii will make go away. If there were some magical place on the planet where my chromosomes would get sorted out, trust me, I would fly there tomorrow.
It's also rude to suggest that infertility is all in someone's head. Telling them not to stress out, or to relax, implies that they are somehow creating their own infertility. When you want a baby very badly, being told that you are causing the problem by stressing out makes you...stress out.
3) "I know someone who adopted after years of trying, and then they got pregnant on their own."
Yep, we've all heard of someone like this. My own grandmother did this: my mother was conceived after her older brother was adopted. It does happen. Unfortunately, anecdotes are not statistics. As Jenna writes, "Adoption isn't a cure for infertility, no more so than a wig is a cure for cancer." I am lucky that my translocation only affects my ability to procreate. Some women who have severe endometriosis or other medical issues, their infertility affects their entire medical wellbeing, not just their ability to have kids. They have to manage their pain and disease all the time. Adopting a baby may solve the "not having a baby" but it doesn't solve the "having to have repeated surgeries to scrape unwanted growths from your guts" problem.
Furthermore, it is completely insensitive to offhandedly suggest adoption as a solution. It is offensive to everyone involved.
Jenna's words:
Adoption is a lifetime commitment to a child. It is not a consolation prize for the loser of a game show. Children are a blessing, and adopted children are as much of a blessing to infertiles as they would be to fertile people. Yet many assume that adoption is reserved only for those who cannot conceive naturally. If you are a fertile parent to biological children and have made a suggestion of adoption to someone who is working through infertility treatments, you should ask yourself why you didn't adopt.
Word. If it's so easy for you to throw it out there as a solution, why didn't you consider doing it?
I also might add that it's just simply not that easy. "Why don't you just adopt?" sounds like you think you can just waltz into the Baby Store and pick up a kid on discount. Adoption is expensive. It's time-consuming. It's a personally invasive process where your whole life is under scrutiny to make sure you're "fit" to raise a child. And it's not a guarantee either: adoptions can fall through, biological parents can change their minds, a lot can happen. You don't just decide it's time to adopt and then get a baby next week. It should not be mentioned as "the easy way out".
I would like to add another one here that was not in Jenna's book:
4) "Why don't you just do IVF?"
I have been getting asked this a lot lately. As if it's simple. As if it's a no-brainer. Just do IVF and then you'll have a baby. Except it's not that simple either. IVF is expensive. The form I would have to do with the preimplantation genetic diagnosis costs about $20,000. And there's no guarantee of success. Poor Julia did IVF with PGD three times. People keep acting like it's a simple process of tossing out my bad eggs and implanting the good ones. It has really started to upset me, because there is nothing simple about it. IVF is painful. It is "unnatural" (in the sense that you have to pump your body full of drugs to create extra eggs and then you have to force your body with more drugs to become a receptive home for embryos.) That is not easy, and I am amazed by the women I know who have gone through it. It is not simple at all. And it's not a suggestion to throw out there offhandedly, unless you have 20 grand lying around that you'd be willing to contribute, and you'd be willing to give the lady all her shots in the backside. And take shots in the backside yourself.
And please, it's not a suggestion to bombard me with 30 minutes after I learn this current baby is dead. If the old baby is still inside your friend, please don't harass her with your ideas of what to do for the next time. It's too soon.
5) "Have you tried..."
Jenna is right: if your friend is serious about conceiving, she has read every tip there is to read. My body has gotten better at getting pregnant over the years, but back before BabyGrok I was reading obscure data from a study about the optimal timing for both male and female orgasm, to give the best push for sperm forward before the woman's body releases a hormone around her cervix that prevents new sperm from competing. So yeah, your suggestion of "are you sure you're timing intercourse with ovulation?" is pretty basic. I was well beyond that in knowledge and experimentation. Ask your friend what kind of things they've tried before you offer Conception 101 advice.
Oh, and that brings us back to stress: when your friend is so desperate for a baby that she cries because the timing is a bit off and they missed the window for the best time for her to get pregnant (within two minutes after female orgasm, less than 24 hours before ovulation), then we're well past her being able to Just Relax! and Enjoy Yourself!
6) "Be grateful for what you do have" aka "things could be worse"
Jenna's words:
Minimizing someone's experiences is no way to be a good friend. Everyone has a story to share and a struggle that, to them, feels like the most they could possibly handle. Telling them that their issue is essentially not that big of a deal...isn't the way to make them feel validated or empowered.
Most people with infertility issues have done enough googling to know that it can always be worse. I have a translocation and have had six miscarriages that end in the very beginning. I know of a worse translocation even: Julia's had 11 miscarriages that drag on for weeks longer than mine do. With heartbeats and everything. I know of many ways it could be worse; I don't need other people to remind me of it.
7) Don't use the "look on the bright side" approach
Jenna explains how someone tried to point out all the silver linings to never having kids, like that you could always sleep in and you won't have to save for college tuition.
The only thing I can equate to this would be to suggest that if your house burned down, and someone said to you, "Well at least you won't have to worry about a heating bill" or if you lost a loved one and someone said, "Think of the money you'll save on birthday presents."
Absolutely never ever ever use this line of reasoning.
This applies to miscarriage as well. Just last week, one response I got to telling the news that our baby was dead was "At least now you can drink on New Year's!" Really? Really?
Jenna goes on to say that it probably sounds like nothing you say will be right, and I have written before that
sometimes this will be true. But her advice is to listen and to ask questions. Don't give advice, don't recount anecdotes, just be a friend and let her talk.
And ask her how she's doing, instead of waiting for her to bring it up.
Some people are private about these things. I am not. I love cashing these chips. I need to, repeatedly, as many times as you'll let me.
And I appreciate that you listen.
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Love, prayers and hugs to you and your family.
Posted by: Tracey at December 29, 2011 11:19 PM (wKx+4)
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Well said. You and your family are in my thoughts.
Posted by: To the Nth at December 30, 2011 09:49 AM (z4WHR)
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I tend to also not be private about this situation ..
So I read the entire post on my iPhone and was talking to myself with Preach it! Amen! Oh Sarah!!! and my hubby kept sticking his head into the room with 'What's going on?!' ... and than he heard and agreed wholeheartedly. Now I'm going to have to add this book to my Kindle.
It's funny how after all that we go through it's still far too easy to think 'Maybe we'll get pregnant the first month back from deployment because we are at an awesome upswing after the fertilitydrugdriven relationshipalmostdivorcespiral. Because a lot of people get LUCKY and the planets lineup and doctor's diagnosises and my invsible unproductive eggs be DAMMNED.'
Maybe there's another way ... she says as she prepares herself to barrel headlong down the adoption rabbit.
This truly sums it up "Unfortunately, anecdotes are not statistics." Neither are they golden eggs, fairy godmothers or the lucky ones.
Air high five from one dysfuncitonal girl to another!
Posted by: Darla at January 04, 2012 07:44 AM (s4dCG)
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December 27, 2011
"MERCURY-LADEN LIFESTYLE"
This post is so good. I was like that this time: accepting the wine and the tuna. But I managed to convince myself in the final days that things were going to turn out well this time. So so stupid.
I run to Julia's blog after every miscarriage. I don't know her, but I feel like I need her. I wish I didn't pattern her so well. I didn't want to be like her: have a handful of miscarriages, a baby, and then a boatload of miscarriages before success again. I wanted success again quickly. I am on my way to boatload.
I'd like to find the time to go read her whole blog from cover to cover...I really need to do this for myself.
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December 22, 2011
WHERE WE GO FROM HERE
My bloodwork yesterday, along with past personal experience, indicates that my body is still very much pregnant, despite the fact that no baby is growing in the yolk sac.
So I get to spend the Christmas weekend still morning sick, and then I get to take the miscarriage meds and spend the New Years weekend in pain.
Happy Holidays.
My new doctor suspects that there might be more at play than just my translocation. The two genetic counselors I've spoken with seem to think that might be possible as well.
I might be lucky enough to have TWO forms of infertility.
Three tails, a heads, and three more tails is within the realm of possibility...but it's much more lousy than the predictive models say it ought to be. I have spent the past five months cursing the name of the woman who created the predictive models. She has been contacted with my "real world data" to see if she can explain it.
The new doctor also wants to run some more tests soon to check for other factors that can cause blighted ova, to see if something else is happening.
I need to get more math and science focused because I have started to feel a little nutty. I don't normally believe in superstition, but I'm starting to think goofy thoughts like "Every ultrasound my husband has ever attended has been a dead baby. He's the jinx; maybe I should leave him at home next time."
And in case you've ever wondered, rum makes morning sickness worse.
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If I knew of the right words I would say them. It is a comfort when you and Mr Grok can share your gallows humor with each other, but it is just heartbreaking to hear yet more heartache. If there is more testing and knowledge that can help and keep your brain focused on something other than the emotional/mental roller coaster - I hope it leads to another miracle as soon as possible. You are a great mama.
Posted by: wifeunit at December 23, 2011 11:18 PM (LHZib)
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That makes sense. It would be a lot more fun to have a real baby than to have a new science paper written on your problem. I am glad they are researching it. Probabilities are actually the pits.
In spite of all you have a wonderful child, a wonderful marriage and a wonderful attitude. I don't know how you do it. I would be so spiteful and hateful by now NO ONE would be able to stand me.
Still and all, have as good a Christmas as possible.
And give Charlotte a hug from me.
Posted by: Ruth H at December 24, 2011 02:48 PM (JFseb)
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Of course rum makes you sick in the morning. Gin is for mornings, or Baileys AND Kahilua in the coffee, rum is for after 11 AM.
Stop taking medical advice from your bartender. All good medical advice comes from the internets.
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December 21, 2011
ANOTHER DEAD BABY
This morning I woke up very morning sick. I was hoping it was getting stronger.
Outwardly, I had been nonchalant about this pregnancy to people. I don't let on about the optimistic side. Our new doctor even noted how much we kept hounding her to plan for the worst.
Inwardly, I was hopeful. Lord, I even let myself pretend that I might find out I was having twins. Where did I get that from?
I should've known it was another dead baby. It always is.
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I am so sorry. I hope that the physical effects pass quickly.
Posted by: Christa at December 21, 2011 05:16 PM (JnJR0)
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Sarah,
I really don't know what to say except I am so sorry you are going through this again. Your strength amazes me.
Posted by: Sandi at December 21, 2011 05:58 PM (PzeGZ)
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I'm so sorry
Posted by: Connie at December 21, 2011 06:08 PM (L6nIP)
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I'm so sorry. Everything else I could think of to say is wrong, so I'll stop with that.
Posted by: Sig at December 22, 2011 12:54 AM (OjLVw)
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I am just so sorry.
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December 10, 2011
FADING HOPE
I got my levels tested and they were not ideal. So I told people that. And people told me to keep up my hope.
Easy for you to say.
This game is death by hope. And I can't help but think that I have had fruitless hope 5 out of 6 times in the past...so I wonder why people think it's just that easy for me to keep hoping.
My HCG level was 87% of what I'd like it to be. For comparison, Dead Baby #2 was 89% and Dead Baby #4 was 81%. And Dead Baby #5, the dirty trickster who fooled us all into thinking he was a real baby, was 106%. And he was still dead.
So that hope...it's not much to numerically hold on to.
I would love to eat crow in two weeks and be wrong. I'd love it. I'd love nothing more than to have everyone tell me I was wrong. But can't they see how hard it is to keep hope alive? It's easier to fear the worst and steel your heart against it than it is to let hope lift you up to where you will fall hard.
No, it's not OK that the hormone levels almost got to where they should be. This isn't grenade throwing. Almost has historically never been good enough.
I'd love to eat my words, but we'll see...
BabyGrok was 119%. That's a number that might make me hopeful. But not so much 87%.
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Posted by: Connie at December 10, 2011 07:46 PM (L6nIP)
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People don't know what to say. They don't know that telling you to be positive, keep the faith, stay hopeful ... it can make it worse. It can make you angry or even more sad. It's just plain hard. Especially with everything you've gone through. They don't know what to say so they revert to the "keep your chin up" attitude, because it's easier than crying with you, being realistic that things could be less than optimal, or trying to understand what you could possibly be feeling.
It sucks. All of it. The ups and downs, dashed hopes, all the losses, and trying to explain the inexplicable feelings to someone one who has never been there. You are amazingly strong to keep trying, to keep going, keep loving, and I respect you more for that fact than I could ever express. Please know that I'm thinking of you, and that I'll hope for you but, if you want to cry and not get your hopes up, that's totally okay too.
Posted by: Stephanie at December 10, 2011 09:12 PM (2lHyJ)
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I echo all that Stephanie says. And you have LIVED hope simply by continuing to try, but that doesn't mean that you have to feel hope and keep hanging onto this elusive 'positive' thinking in this place that you are in.
Posted by: Val at December 11, 2011 10:58 AM (glAPF)
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I understand that it's hard to hope. I will hope for you.
Posted by: Sharona at December 11, 2011 12:34 PM (bXtps)
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Hope is a nasty sneak. Even when I said I didn't have any I was lying. Hope always lingered in my heart somewhere.
This sucks, but I think giving up would suck worse. If you get to the point where that isn't true, then you've got some thinking to do.
In the meantime, drink some hot chocolate and eat Christmas cookies, because while you don't want to drink wine in case the 87% becomes the proverbial "ladybug onesie asleep upstairs," hot chocolate and Christmas cookies are a-ok.
Posted by: Christa at December 12, 2011 11:27 AM (JnJR0)
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Ugh, I really think that people just don't get it. Maybe they don't understand that telling yourself it is the worst and preparing your heart for that is somehow a little bit better than continuing that hope for awhile and having it dashed even more. I do not like 87%.
Hugs.
Posted by: Stacy at December 12, 2011 04:04 PM (n8pne)
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Christa is telling it true, and so is everyone else. We all hope for you even when the odds are not so good. But when she calls hope a nasty sneak she is telling it true. We all know that trying to face reality doesn't keep the hope from being deep down in the heart. We need another miracle for you. For the record, no pregnancy is ever the same, so.........
Posted by: Ruth H at December 12, 2011 09:03 PM (JFseb)
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Sarah, I don't know how you have any hope left. But to hope is human, To get your heart broken is to have loved. I pray this baby wins the genetic lottery. Because in your case, there are no degrees. There is yes. And there is no. I'm praying for a yes for you and your family.
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December 02, 2011
ETERNAL HOPE
Last night I dreamt there was a cell phone app pregnancy test; you pressed the phone screen to your forehead and it registered whether you were pregnant. I got the big plus sign and woke up with a rush.
Except today was the day I was taking a real pregnancy test. I was mad that it was going to be a huge letdown after the dream test...
But we did it again.
We're getting good at getting pregnant. I just hope we can stay that way.
Now I need to buckle down and pick a doctor this weekend, which feels really random. Just pulling a name out of a hat and hoping for the best. I guess that's kinda the way the old Army system worked for me, but back then I had no choice. This time I might kick myself if I make the wrong choice.
But here we are. Does seven feel lucky?
It's also amazing to me that even on the seventh time, even after so much bad luck, hope springs eternal. As soon as I took the test, my heart was off and running: calculating the due date, imagining BabyGrok holding her sibling...
It's amazing how resilient and hopeful the heart is.
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Just like our bodies forget the pain of childbirth, our hearts forget (or at least the memory is hazy) the pain of loss. Thank goodness for it. Good luck and prayers for number seven!
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Thoughts and prayers are with you and Russ for a heads up penny. I am hopeful things go your way this time. And I am in awe of your strength.
Posted by: Mare at December 03, 2011 12:26 AM (pme3X)
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We are here because our ancestors had resilience and hope to endure a dark past. May SiblingGrok be here to enjoy a bright future.
Posted by: Amritas at December 04, 2011 12:44 AM (sCjiJ)
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Isn't that the truth though? After nearly 11 years and all the drugs and tests and the doctor telling me that I don't ovulate without drugs or even with them regularly enough to have a snow balls chance in hell - I still think 'Maybe this time we can get lucky.' A little part of me ha already calculated that my o-window is right after he returns from deployment. Maybe if I missed him enough and we were lucky like so many other people .... Oh sister, you know exactly what I mean.
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October 29, 2011
FINALLY MOVING ON
The due date for Failed Baby #5 is approaching, which is a reminder of two things: 1) the obvious, that I would be having a baby soon, and 2) that we have already wasted nine months since we wanted to try to have a second child.
I moved to this new duty station and found two friends quickly. They are both pregnant now.
CVG said I am like a pregnancy good luck charm...for other people.
I have been in a holding pattern for a long time, feeling quite frustrated. My body has still not recovered from the last pregnancy. At first I shrugged it off, blaming the trauma that two rounds of meds plus a D&C caused. But then weeks stretched to months and I got more irritated. However, I still decided that playing ostrich was better than making a doctor appointment and dealing with reality. I just kept telling myself that it couldn't be possible. It couldn't possibly take three months to get back on track after a miscarriage.
It took 83 days.
I got pregnant with this crappy baby back in May. I am finally finished with him.
And now hopefully we can move on to Baby #7.
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(Finally, I find a computer that lets me read your posts and comment!)
I don't know if you're a hugging kind of person in real life, or a watch your favorite TV show and knit something together and not talk about it directly kind of person. But either way, I wish I could offer something besides an "I'm sorry." I can't, but I am.
Posted by: Lucy at November 06, 2011 12:14 AM (HNeJi)
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September 03, 2011
A BOX OF BOOKS
I discovered today while unpacking the bookcases that I have an entire box of books about how to get pregnant. Wow. That's a lot of info on a process that most people barely have to think about.
I set aside
one of the books that CVG got me a few years ago that I'd never felt good enough to read. I started it tonight, and all the feelings came crashing back. Things I haven't thought about in a long time. Things I'd forgotten. Things that used to hurt so badly and that don't hurt anymore...until I remember how badly they hurt once. It never really goes away.
And I am one of the lucky ones: I both figured out what caused my problem and managed a work-around. I conquered my infertility, at least once. I'd like to do it again, but I know how many people would give anything to do it just once.
Mostly, I remember the hope. Death by hope. Lying in bed after an IUI naming my triplets and imagining us all crossing the street holding hands. I remember how badly it hurt to have that hope destroyed over and over again. To feel it flame up every two weeks for years. What a miserable way that was to live.
It's not over though. I'd still like to conquer again.
But anything I feel today is nothing like how I felt in
April 2009. And I hate that there are others out there who live like that forever...
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I have faith you will conquer it again.
It is horrible to know so many people never get their time. The fertility clinic is a roller coaster ride and it is nice when the emotions lose their edge and fade. I still remember transferring to the regular ob office and sitting through my extra long orientation meeting with my mom and finagling an ultrasound from the super nice head nurse because I was from the REI clinic and very hopeful to show my mom a glimpse since she came out specially for the appt. Only to find where once was a heatbeat there was none.
I hope your time on the roller coaster is short and with minimal heartache and stress.
I recently feng shui-ed to the thrift store almost all of my pregnancy and babyhood books. While I'd like to think I'm not a terrible parent and/or only capable of producing/raising children with delays of this or that diagnosis - the idea of trying again fades out more than in lately. I know that I would at least not like to feel like I am underwater and believe I've a couple years before I know we are on the right track with the boys.
Posted by: Jenn at September 05, 2011 03:02 PM (LHZib)
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It's amazing how the littlest things we unearth can bring it all back to the forefront. We put a lid on the infertility nearly two years ago and sometimes it feels like yesterday. I have utterly blue moments on the days that I feel that every pregnant dependent has stormed my BX at the same time to flaunt their fullness over my barrenness. I know that's my insanity speaking but for just getting the single experience of stroking my own growing belly I'd give so many things.
Lately I've been struggling when healthy close friends of mine cavalierly drop the dates of when they plan on adding to their broods. Johnnie is nearly 1 so we hope to get knocked up again in the next 2 months. It's so hard to be torn between saying Good Luck! and STFU! can't you see it hurts?? Can't you see it's NOT that easy for some of us?! You don't KNOW what it's like! Do you always make 'skinny' comments in front of the fat girls without disregard for their feelings!
I wish you all the best! I am loving you sister and praying for you from around the globe! Every post I wait with baited breath and with every milestone I laugh and I cry for you. [hugs]
Posted by: Darla at September 08, 2011 01:48 AM (d/msI)
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Darla -- One of the most annoying ones I ever heard was a friend who said, "We want a third kid but we're gonna wait until after this fall because I don't want to be fat at my high school reunion." Sigh. Oh to be able to plan so easily...
I think about you often. You might like that book I linked to...it's not funny (if you want funny, "Infertility Sucks" is a good read), but it's...powerful.
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August 18, 2011
THE LONGEST MONTH EVER
Moving on didn't come as soon as I expected. The meds worked, in the sense that they expelled the majority of the "products of conception," as they're called in the biz. But unfortunately the bleeding didn't stop, so I went back to the doctor. An ultrasound revealed that there was a blood clot being directly fed by a vessel. Conclusion: D&C.
Two days before the movers were coming.
So we spent a surprise day at the hospital. I went surprisingly fast considering I didn't expect to have surgery that day. But we missed a whole day of preparing for the move. And I had a bad trip coming down from the anesthesia because I hopped right out of bed as soon as I woke up and raced home to retrieve BabyGrok from the babysitter and continue with moving plans.
But everything got done, as it always does, and we're packed out and gone. We're at my folks' house for a week before we head to our new home on post. We're excited.
But this last month has been ridiculous.
Worst.fetus.ever.
But best kiddo ever:
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I'm glad things have calmed down. You deserve a week's rest after what you've just gone through. I hope you never have another month like the last one. May the rest of your move go smoothly.
Posted by: Amritas at August 19, 2011 10:23 AM (5a7nS)
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What a sweetie! And I love the pink crocs! Best wishes for a smooth & uneventful move!
Posted by: Toni at August 19, 2011 08:23 PM (aL5Tl)
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Sarah,
I am sorry for your loss, and pain. I have admired you for the way you have dealt with everything that has come your families way. I wish that I really knew you, just know that there is someone out there that thinks and prays for your cute family.
cindy h
Posted by: cindyh at August 21, 2011 09:38 PM (ND10h)
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('bout ready to smack that jersey s.o.b. into next week)
(and ready to smack Dame Fortune for being such a bitch to you lately)
The move is halfway over...I admire you for the fortitude you have. And that picture is precious...it would be neat made into a painting.
Posted by: Mrs. Who at August 27, 2011 01:18 PM (CtX4I)
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Was this one Brett Farve? Quits, comes back, quits, doesn't leave, etc?
Posted by: Chuck Z at September 05, 2011 04:32 AM (OITDh)
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Oh the curls and the crocs - too precious. Thank you for sharing!
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July 29, 2011
MOVING ON
Just an update. The second round of meds worked, and I immediately felt better. Not morning sick anymore. Still a little sore, but glad to be moving on now.
Now just stressed out that we're moving 1000 miles in two weeks.
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I'm glad you are physically feeling better, I know it's still rough.
Regarding the move, I'm sure you have lots of access to advice for a military move, I have a few suggestions as a veteran of 8 of them, including one whole shipment that they lost. Take pictures of everything, put up in a private Flickr acct, on several smart sticks, but have a picture inventory. If a box, or, as in our case, the whole shipment is lost, you have to identify every item lost. Much easier if you have the info, this includes model and serial numbers for the higher priced stuff. I tried to have 1 adult per packer writing or taking pix of what went into each box. My good friend had a bag of garbage carefully boxed, and had her very expensive curtains used to wrap a fish tank. We avoided that, but had damage to wood tables, bed headboard, bookcases, and in one case the whole bookcase disappeared. In some cases they tried to argue that the damage had been there before the move, with pictures, you can prove otherwise. Adult supervision can help with the stupid stuff, and the recording. Next, toddlers and young children can get very upset as their toys are packed and taken to the truck. Finding a good friend or relative that can take your daughter while all the upheaval is going on is something I highly recommend. You have so many talents for coping, they WILL help you get through this. Take very good care of you and yours.
Posted by: HChambers at July 30, 2011 03:17 PM (VaG1x)
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I'm glad the experience has come to a conclusion so you can be feeling better and moving forward. That little girl of yours will be a fantastic mover!
Posted by: Darla at August 02, 2011 02:52 PM (d/msI)
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July 25, 2011
GONE BABY GONE
Without hesitation, this has been the most irritating pregnancy so far. The raised expectations and the morning sickness, then the death dragged out for three weeks, then the continued morning sickness, and now...
I took the round of meds on Thursday and they didn't work. The baby did not get the eviction notice and is still hanging around. So now I have to start all over again tomorrow. More meds. And this time with no husband home on the weekend to help.
I just want this baby GONE.
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You remain in my thoughts. I wish you a speedy conclusion to this ordeal.
Posted by: To the Nth at July 25, 2011 01:59 PM (mB143)
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I so agree with the above comment...
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July 21, 2011
I THOUGHT I WAS DONE
What's been hardest to accept, I think, is the fact that I thought I was done. I foolishly let myself get my hopes up this time that, because I felt so similar to how I felt while pregnant with BabyGrok, and because that one was a success, that we were having another baby. And since we would be perfectly content to be a family of four, I thought we were done. I even remarked to a friend that maybe we'd get off easy, maybe we'd get away with only having to be pregnant six times.
Only six times. How sad is it that that's now what I consider having good luck...
I was done, in my head. I counted the chicken before it hatched and let myself breathe a sigh of relief that I might never have to try to get pregnant again. We were stepping off the rollercoaster and calling it a day. We had "won." We were successful. We had completed our family at long last.
I am accustomed to losing babies. I am accustomed to getting my hopes dashed. But this one hit me hard because I had The End within my sight, right at my fingertips, and it got yanked away.
And now I don't see myself getting lucky the seventh time. Now I start imagining that we might have to do it an eighth or ninth time...and could we stomach doing it a tenth? How many is too many?
I thought six was the end. Now I don't see any end in sight.
And now I have absolutely no criteria for feeling confident about future pregnancies. Strong hormone levels? Means nothing. Morning sickness? Had it in half the pregnancies. A baby with a heartbeat? #6 had a flicker and #2 had a full-on thump, and what good did it do?
There are no reliable indicators for success anymore.
The seventh time will be hard.
And it will be in a new city with a new doctor too...probably someone who will try to convince me that all the indicators mean something.
Ugh, I was done. I thought I was done. It hurts to have that taken away.
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It hurts to see you go through this again.
I thought you might be done too. I was wrong. I am so sorry.
Posted by: Amritas at July 21, 2011 07:54 PM (ZsCaC)
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Ugh. I hate this. I hate that you are having to be thinking that 6 was a lucky thing and such. I wish that you were able to be seeing that end in sight. I remember Kev and I having a discussion about this after the miscarriage between Caden and Jack. He said, "If you knew for sure that you would have another baby, but you had to lose 3 more to get there would you do it?" I couldn't answer that question, I just hoped with all of my being that the next pregnancy would end with a live baby. I am so sad that yours didn't. I wish I could make it better for you and take on a few of those losses for you.
Posted by: Stacy at July 22, 2011 12:44 AM (n8pne)
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Stacy, you've already had more than your fair share. But I know what you mean, we've had that talk too. I wish it were knowable, because I could survive three more if I were certain the fourth would be another baby. The hard part is the not knowing.
Posted by: Sarah at July 22, 2011 07:02 AM (iD+cA)
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I can only imagine how much all of this sucks, but as someone who lives in her head, I know the terrible ways our brains and emotions torture us. Sometimes the only good thing about time is that it keeps on moving.
Posted by: beth at July 23, 2011 10:51 AM (s/jIo)
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So sorry Sarah. I have no words of comfort but not saying anything felt too wrong. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Tracey at July 23, 2011 09:41 PM (wKx+4)
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I've stopped by here several times, but haven't really known what to say. I've experienced a miscarriage (again, with those damn 'high' hormone levels), but did not go through the multiple experiences you have...the not knowing must be overwhelming. I'm not sure any words I can say can bring comfort...but you are in my prayers. Thank you for reaching out with your situation so that others can know, maybe try to understand, and even be able to find a kindred soul...
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July 16, 2011
CRAP SANDWICH
Horrible. Just horrible. I am still extremely morning sick. But it's either that or take the meds and face excruciating pain. Nice choice. Can I have neither? Nope, I get both. So I get to be morning sick for one more week and then I get to have the big dose of pain. What a crap sandwich.
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My sympathies and condolences, brought to you courtesy of the utterly anonymous internets.
Posted by: Eowyn at July 18, 2011 12:57 PM (t4Rat)
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Crap sandwich is a good way to put it. Sucks big time. So sorry.
Posted by: Stacy at July 18, 2011 10:29 PM (n8pne)
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That is a crap sandwich. I hope with every snuggle of that adorable baby girl you get little feelings of peace and hope.
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July 14, 2011
CRUEL SHOCK
I don't even know how to write this, or where to begin, or what witty angle to use to lay out the story of yet another dead baby. I used to compose the blog post in the car on the way home. I have been home for hours and still don't know what to say or think.
This one was a surprise. A cruel shock.
The only other time I had doubling HCG levels and strong morning sickness was with BabyGrok. I was craving the same things (pizza bread and white wine) and as exhausted as I was with her. And even last week's WTF wasn't enough to deter me from thinking that we had just conceived late and everything was going fine.
Is it because it's happening today and it feels much more real, or is this really as I perceive it to be: the biggest blow of them all? Because this time, more than any other time before, even BabyGrok, I was sure I was having a baby.
It just feels so cruel to have to be morning sick for a month for nothing. And to still be morning sick because there's a dead baby inside of me pumping out hormones and tricking my body into thinking it's pregnant.
Ugh, I just can't say anything more about it anymore. I am mad and hurt today.
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I'm so terribly sorry. I wish I knew what else to say.
Posted by: Erin at July 14, 2011 09:31 AM (G5D6v)
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Nothing I can say will take away the hurt, but please know I care and pray for you.
Posted by: Connie at July 14, 2011 11:16 AM (L6nIP)
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I am so sorry and I wish you didn't have to go through this.
Posted by: Christa at July 14, 2011 11:41 AM (2qSbp)
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So sorry Sarah, my prayers are with you.
Posted by: Tracey at July 14, 2011 12:13 PM (wKx+4)
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I am so sorry to hear that. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: To the Nth at July 14, 2011 02:31 PM (mB143)
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I have long admired the strength you have shown as you have faced the challenges you have been confronted with over the past few years. I am more sorry than I can say over what has happened, and you are in my thoughts and prayers.
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Posted by: Sig at July 15, 2011 07:47 PM (OzC/x)
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Rock your child,especially when she is sleeping. You'll still hurt and be unbelievably angry, but the touch of your child will make a difference. I am so sorry you had to go through this yet again.
Posted by: HChambers at July 15, 2011 09:50 PM (VaG1x)
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Words cannot express how sad I am for you! Send you support and love from across the ocean (I'm sorry that my iPhone has been blocking me posting for nearly a week. I apologize for neglecting so long!)
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July 07, 2011
COUNTING MY BLESSINGS
There's just one so far, but she's a pretty big one.
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LOVE the cute curls from behind!
Posted by: Connie at July 07, 2011 10:38 PM (L6nIP)
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She is a beautiful girl! You have been blessed.
Posted by: Darla at July 09, 2011 02:39 AM (EsO0b)
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She's a pretty amazing one!
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I'M TIRED OF GUESSING WHETHER THE ATOM DECAYED OR NOT
OK, I'm trying to be zen, really I am, but life is really testing my limits.
The nurse originally wanted to schedule my ultrasound for back in June. I resisted, saying that I wanted to wait until we'd be positive either way that we ought to see a heartbeat. I thought July 7th was well far enough in advance to guarantee that no heart = dead and heart = alive.
But I went in today and the results were inconclusive. There was the merest, tiniest flicker where the heart ought to grow, meaning that there could be a heartbeat within days...or not.
Ugh.
I just feel overwhelmed with frustration right now. I tried so hard to avoid this scenario. It felt like an eternity waiting until July 7, but I did it because I thought that uncertainty at home was better than uncertainty in front of the ultrasound screen. Unfortunately, I got both.
And what I'd really like now is to talk to someone who gets it...but I don't know anyone. I don't know anyone else who has repeatedly sat in limbo wondering if her baby is alive or dead. I don't even know anyone who's done that once. I know my friends are sympathetic, and as empathetic as they can be, but I just want solidarity. I just want someone who groks.
So I wait another week, wondering if the flicker will turn into a heartbeat or just peter out. Debating myself whether my morning sickness is real or psychosomatic. Living in two alternate realities, one where the atom decays and kills Schroedinger's cat and the other where it doesn't.
I'm tired of doing this.
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I am so sorry about this. I have been there. And I remember the games I would play with taking pregnancy tests and scheduling ultrasounds and whether I would tell people I was pregnant and when. All sorts of superstitions cropped up when I am not normally a superstitious person. I am a planner and uncertainty doesn't lead to good, concrete plans. With one pregnancy I threw caution to the wind and bought some cute girl outfits that were on sale and then had to hide them in the closet because looking at them hurt. What finally worked for me was complete pessimism (I am not suggesting it, just telling). I don't think I really believed I was going home with a baby until we got past the week of viability outside my body.
Even my husband didn't really get it. I think because my miscarriages were so early, that for him they weren't as real as they were for me. I was the one obsessed with dates and hormones and tests. So, it was hard to talk to him about it because he was so certain it would all work out and what I really needed was someone to acknowledge that it might not and that I wasn't worrying for nothing.
I know were don't know each other in real life, but feel free to email me if you want to talk.
Posted by: Christa at July 07, 2011 04:37 PM (2qSbp)
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I get it. We went in for the ultrasound last June and the baby was measuring small and my doc kept saying I had my dates off but I knew I didn't. Then the next day I started bleeding and for 3 days would bleed off and on heavily. Everytime I called to go in I would be told that the blood wasn't necessarily a miscarriage and I just wanted to scream at them to shut up and quit giving me false hope because I was dealing with the loss until they piped up. I'm 29 weeks now and still don't feel like we are out of the woods yet and will relax once she is home. I have had no where near the difficulties that you have had, so I can only imagine the stress you are feeling.
Posted by: Tracey at July 07, 2011 05:38 PM (wKx+4)
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Thank you, ladies. Christa -- I know what you mean: my husband is the one person who's gone through all of this with me, and yet...he hasn't. You're right, he doesn't count dates or take pregnancy tests or sit and agonize over when we must've conceived in order to have a 6 1/2 week old fetus instead of a 7 week old one. He's there for me, but somehow he doesn't feel it as acutely as I do. Tracey -- I have been there too, with the "are you sure your dates are right?" and the bleeding and the false hope. Most of the time it was truly false hope, but I was bleeding with BabyGrok too, so that was a time that it worked out. But usually it doesn't for me. The nurse today told me to think positive and I said, "I'm trying, but I'm 1 for 5!" Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone.
Posted by: Sarah at July 07, 2011 06:46 PM (iD+cA)
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I don't get it. I've never been there. But if there was anything I could do to alleviate any of this for you, I would.
Posted by: Code Monkey at July 07, 2011 09:00 PM (3ZmMp)
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Ditto Code Monkey
Posted by: Connie at July 07, 2011 10:37 PM (L6nIP)
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Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers, sending positive energy your way. I think you are one amazing woman.
Posted by: Mary at July 07, 2011 11:22 PM (0+wct)
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My grandson and his wife have gone through this, and then the last two turned out to be real, but tubal. More heartbreak. So they are turning to IVF. She is on the hormones now and will hopefully be implanted by the next 2 weeks. They are lucky all the genetics seem okay.
Ironically, his brother and his wife have the twins and older one, all under 2. Mother Nature has some mysterious, screwed up, stuff going on.
Posted by: Ruth H at July 08, 2011 01:20 PM (CvvEA)
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Ugh is so right... and I'm so sorry...
Another ditto to Code Monkey. *hugs, thoughts, and prayers*...
Posted by: Krista at July 08, 2011 03:10 PM (BqTRT)
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I'm very sorry for your frustration! I can't imagine what you are going through. Thoughts from my corner of the world!
Posted by: Darla at July 09, 2011 02:42 AM (EsO0b)
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I went through the bleeding thing and having them say it was no big deal and it was a big deal, Everyone's experience is different. I have a friend you might want to talk to. She would totally grok.
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June 23, 2011
HEAD'S UP
My hormone levels doubled like they ought to. The only other time that's ever happened for me was with BabyGrok. So maybe this is BabyGrok2. It's looking like it might be...I feel icky and tired and hot. (Caveat: it's 100 degrees here, so that could be a factor as well.)
Anyway, I have an ultrasound in two weeks to make sure, but I think we might have another head's-up penny here.
For the next two weeks, I am going to pretend I am having a baby. When is it too early to wear maternity clothes? Because I have a pot belly that could pass for pregnant already...
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It's never too early! Good thoughts your way
Posted by: Connie at June 23, 2011 08:49 PM (L6nIP)
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Fingers crossed. Makes it hard to type, but I'll deal with it.
Posted by: Code Monkey at June 23, 2011 10:55 PM (Girmz)
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*fingers crossed* Me too me too!
Posted by: Green at June 26, 2011 10:29 PM (MGKXv)
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Best wishes! Fingers crossed here too!
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June 20, 2011
BECOMING ZEN
The nurse who used to "help" me at the fertility clinic is gone, and the new nurse is super nice. Last pregnancy and this one, she's been really accommodating. They've offered me the moon both times: as many blood-draws and ultrasounds as I want. And the ironic thing is that, the more frequently you're pregnant, the less crucial it feels. I have come to the zen state that either I will be pregnant for 9 months or for about 3 weeks, and it is what it is. No amount of kangaroo pouch peeking will change anything. So I thanked them but told them not to waste their resources. I will get my blood checked twice this week and then an ultrasound later to look for a heartbeat. I appreciate their attentiveness, but I have really embraced the weird idea that all my babies' lifespans are predetermined long before I even know they exist, and whether I know the lifespan or not doesn't change anything.
Aren't you impressed with how zen I've become? I grok the miracle of life.
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Our first was conceived on the first try and I had such a problem free pregnancy that I only had one ultrasound at 20 weeks and that was it. Our second attempt took years, I had an ectopic pregnancy and a garden variety miscarriage and eventually had some assistance from an RE. As a result I had a beta at 5 days (24) and weekly ultrasounds from almost the beginning. One of the results of that was at 6 weeks seeing a blood clot between the uterine wall and placenta. This typically means that a miscarriage is coming. So, we wait and wait and eventually it just dissolves and he just turned 4. What I learned from all of that is that it was entirely possible that I had the same blood clot with my first and I never knew or worried about it and worrying didn't change a thing except how I felt about it.
Way to learn from experience.
Posted by: Christa at June 20, 2011 08:19 PM (2qSbp)
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Congratulations. on a whole new attitude. Peace and quiet within is so often under-appreciated.
Posted by: Pamela at June 21, 2011 03:57 AM (ibr+n)
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I think it's a wonderful perspective. Good luck!!
Posted by: beth at June 21, 2011 07:38 AM (VJK1m)
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Back in my day we seldom even had x-rays. Of course we worried over our unborn babies but there was nothing we could do to predict who or what, or when exactly we would deliver. X-rays were given in the final days if a problem of size or something that could cause a c-section was suspected. I think your attitude has evolved into what we had.
As one of my doctors said about my cholesterol levels a while back, "it is what it is." I can do nothing about it, my body cannot handle those medications. So I am what I am. Zen? No, Popeye is the one who
said sang that.
Posted by: Ruth H at June 21, 2011 12:27 PM (zlUde)
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