April 29, 2004
GIRLY
A storm's a-brewin' over at RWN where Hawkins is discussing
women vs men bloggers. The background is too complex to summarize here -- you can read it on RWN -- but Hawkins goes on to ask an interesting question:
So let me branch out: Why are comparatively so few female bloggers of note in the political blogosphere?
Personally, I have come to suspect it's just a numbers game. On the whole, women aren't as interested as men in politics, so therefore there are a lot less women than men writing about politics, and hence there is a much smaller pool of female bloggers with the talent to move up the ranks.
Some people probably won't like that answer, but hey, why aren't there as many women who are sports fans as men? Why are there a lot more women than guys who enjoy romance novels? Maybe it's nature, maybe it's nurture, maybe it's some combination thereof, but men and women on the whole don't have the same level of interest in politics.
As an aside, I see nothing sexist in that quote at all. I'm reminded of a heated argument that erupted a few years ago when one of my female friends took extreme offense when my brother made an offhanded comment that his college basketball team could whoop any WNBA team. Cries of Sexist! insued, but there's nothing sexist about saying something that's probably true. But I digress.
Maybe that's why I'm having a hard time finding wives who want to talk about this stuff with me. Maybe that's why I was so disappointed to find out Kim du Toit is a man. But you know what -- it doesn't really matter. I started to write "it's too bad women don't want to blog about politics" and then I erased it because it doesn't matter. Who cares if you're a man or a woman; in the blogosphere, it's ideas that count. Reynolds and Green do a lot of recipe blogging, which should be a "woman's" topic. Who cares? They say important things on the majority of their posts, so they can write the occasional post about chicken, or whatever. I don't care if I'm writing back and forth with a man or woman, as long as we have common ground and we a trying to help each other grok.
I sometimes write about girly things like knitting or how I think Stephen Green is cute. But I most certainly will never give up trying to grok politics and current events so I can, as Hawkins joked, "have more time to blog about make-up and house plants." I can't even do make-up -- I've never bothered to learn how to apply it properly, and it shows -- and I have one houseplant that I just remembered to water after reading Hawkin's post. Make-up and plants ain't never gon happen on my blog.
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By the way, I just got introduced to Cassandra and Debbye through Hawkins' post. So far I like what I see. I need to check back in with them often.
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Well DANG, Sarah...
And here I was getting all ready to write up a snarky post announcing my retirement from poliblogging and going on and on about makeup and houseplants.
Except I have abso-fricking-lutely NO idea what I would say on either of those topics, so I was going to email you for ideas. Are you telling me I'm SOL?
sigh...
Posted by: Cassandra at April 29, 2004 11:08 AM (ee4ft)
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I was going to offer to divide the labour with you, one of us taking make-up and the other taking house plants ...
Posted by: Debbye at April 29, 2004 11:08 AM (iMG32)
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All three of you - PLEASE keep up what you're doing! I've really enjoyed your perspectives - it's great to hear insights from thoughtful women who are interested in what's going on in the world at large.
Posted by: Lyana at April 29, 2004 02:29 PM (ps81A)
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Sarah:
I enjoyed your post a while back about being at the party with that woman who went off about hoping Kerry would be elected so her husband would come home.
I don't have enough time to read other blogs, but will definitely make time to read yours.
Military wives should stick together. If you ever get discouraged, shoot me an email and we'll trade "war" stories - I've got 23 years worth
You sound like a gutsy and intelligent lady.
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April 22, 2004
DENIGRATE
From
Mohammad:
I wasnÂ’t like this before. I was afraid most of the time. I have always looked for safety above all. I lost faith in the whole world and I wasnÂ’t ready at all to make the slightest sacrifice for the sake of others. I was trying to leave my country and find a better job in a safe place, BUT, The brave solders (who donÂ’t hold shares at Halliburton or Bechtel) who crossed seas and oceans and came to my country to fight for our freedom -and donÂ’t anyone dare say the opposite, as I met so many of these soldiers and had hundreds of letters from them and there families and I know their motives; they fight for their countryÂ’s safety and for our freedom and they are proud of what they are doing- gave me the faith and showed me that man should not care only about himself, his family or his country, these are not enough to make a human being. These guys are MUCH better than me because I have to fight for my issue and they fight for me. They deserve the respect of the world and so do the people who support them. They always give me hope to go on no matter how difficult it seems.
A couple of my soldiers wrote yesterday that they don't think the military belongs at our elite universities because somebody smart enough to go to Harvard should do bigger and better things than the military. They're going to get yelled at today.
Yes, there are smart folks at Harvard. But so much of elite academia is self-perpetuating horse manure. I've never been to Harvard, but I did go to a fairly rigorous university, and many aspects of it were a joke. The students weren't that motivated, most of them simply wanted to regurgitate on the test and then go to their frat party, and a great number of them are now America-bashing MA students, cycling back through the system. In contrast, my students work their tails off to attend classes in addition to their more important job of PROVIDING FREEDOM!
I'm extremely disappointed to hear my student soldiers denigrate themselves like that. At Iraq the Model a soldier's inherent worth is obvious; why isn't it obvious to them? Maybe I should smoke them at the start of class...
MORE TO GROK:
Well, I tried to smoke them, but I got choked up. They were looking at me with the most interesting look on their faces; I realized that most of them consider their job to be nothing special. They don't think they're heroes, so for me to get choked up when I praise them is probably a hoot.
But they're all heroes to me.
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Our cadets at the academies are some of the brightest students graduating from high school each year. Many have received full scholarship offers from places like Stanford, Northwestern, and Cornell. Officers help infuse the enlisted corps with a spirit of learning which might never have been there before. Ask your students who influenced them to take classes. I'm sure many are there because their officers inspired them to get an education.
Posted by: Mike at April 22, 2004 08:11 AM (cFRpq)
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Tell your student who say those things that *I* say "BULLSHIT".
Today's enlisted soldier is not some walking automoton that fires bullets on command. Soldiers get more on the job training than virtually any other occupation, and while the pay sucks and it's a mostly thankless job, you get to do things other people can only dream about...if they are inclined to do so.
Do you think that some Harvard snob with multiple PhD's are as good at their job as the average Spec4 in the infantry? Does some clown in tweed and courdoroys teaching Faust (and interpreting it badly I might add, because it's a cryptofascist tract symbolizing corporate greed, like Enron and Halliburton) carry the same immediate impact as a squad of troops guarding a checkpoint?
Academics are a luxury that can only be provided by a strong economy and robust national defense. if there were no privates, sergeants, and 2nd LTs rooting around gumbo mud in Grafenwohr, those Harvard academics would be hiding in caves with their berry smeared offspring cavorting just outside.
Posted by: Jason at April 22, 2004 11:14 AM (rfgVv)
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Jason,
You are too kind to aca-dumb-ics. Faust? Why would anyone even want to *touch* the work of a dead white male when they could read I, Rigoberta Menchu instead?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=1193
Posted by: Amritas at April 22, 2004 05:12 PM (I4sLA)
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Ah, you are right. i commited the venal sin of using an example work of a dead white European male. I am ashamed!
I am leaving now to take sensitivity training. Mind the electrodes.
Posted by: Jason at April 22, 2004 05:29 PM (rfgVv)
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The soldiers are right - the kids at the elite universities (I was one once) don't belong in the military. But it is not because they are too smart, but too soft, too undisciplined, and too selfish. You do NOT want them covering your back.
(True, some could be 'saved', but not worth the risk unless you have no choice.)
Posted by: Glenmore at April 23, 2004 04:51 PM (QoMJw)
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Gee Mike, you MUST be an officer. You make it sound like enlisted soldiers can't think for themselves-like college is too lofty for folks "like them". While many officers do make a positive difference in our military, I wouldn't go so far as to say that most of our enlisted service members are in college because of them.
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April 18, 2004
LIBERTY VALANCE
I saw via
Amritas that James Hudnall wrote an
analogy using
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
The thugs and criminals of the Middle East have had a free ride for far too long. The only way to civilize a place that has known only oppression and terror is bring the rule of law. A good John Wayne movie really illustrates that point. It's called THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALLANCE. The story illustrates the same thing that's going on in the Middle East. The place is the Wild West. It needs to be tamed if there is ever going to be peace there.
The husband bought the movie right before he left, and since we owned it but I'd never seen it, I watched it today. I see what Hudnall was saying, but I also saw another parallel to the Middle East.
Stoddard tried to bring law and order to Shinbone, but law and order only work when they're respected. To a man like Valance, a man with no regard for the law, threats of incarceration and jurisdiction meant nothing. The only thing that kept Valance in line was the threat of force. Personified by the extremely cool John Wayne.
The EU and the UN would have us negotiate with terrorists, but you can't negotiate with people who have no respect for law and order. The only thing that terrorists respond to is force. Only when those who have no respect for the law are removed -- only when Liberty Valance was shot -- can law and order start to rule a land.
All the law books in the world won't help when the other guy is holding a pistol.
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An Amazon reviewer of the movie was thinking along the same lines, and phrased them in a much nicer way than I did:
The liberal left has viewed the war on terror as a legal issue to be resolved through the court system. Preemptive strikes against terrorism are considered by the left as brutish Republican behavior. Evidence must be gathered, the terrorist rights must be protected, and courts of law must adjudicate the issues. But, terrorist, like Liberty Valance are evil. They feed off of the fear of others. Until we put the law books down, and pick up our .45s, terror will reign. Civilization was brought to Shinbone only after Liberty Valance lay dead in the street, his body riddled with bullets. The war of terror will only be won by the West when those who perpetrate it are killed. It is not a nice thought, but a necessary one.
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Actually, I saw it the way you did. I just didn't go into detail because I wanted people to see the film without me spoiling it.
The only way these creeps come to respect the law is when they know the consequences are dire if they don't.
Saddam laughed at the UN the way Liberty Valance did at Jimmy Stewart. The only thing he respected was the kind of brute force that Kohn Wayne provided. So here we have a similar instance of ineffectual bureaucrats talking about laws and being ignored by the thugs. And then a cowboy like Bush comes along and gives them a taste of lead.
Notice how al-Sadr tried the same thing only to see his militia decimated. And now he wants peace.
I think we should not appease these chumps anymore. And I agree with what Israel is doing to Hamas. Trying to be diplomatic with barbarians doesn't work.
Posted by: James Hudnall at April 18, 2004 05:54 PM (FV8Tp)
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i think the left gets too much credit in that review. They don't really care about justice, be it backed by force or the legal system. Their one overriding motivation is to see America weakened and humble.
Posted by: annika at April 18, 2004 11:03 PM (PCv13)
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annika,
The Left does care about "justice." They just define it differently. The weakening and humiliation of America is their idea of "justice." It's not "fair" that America is so good. It has to be brought down in the name of "equality."
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April 15, 2004
DEATHS
Beth points out a good article called
Did I Get the War Wrong?
But what are the facts? The Human Rights Center in Kadhimiya has been set up by Iraqis themselves from the ashes of Baathism. They have been going methodically through the massive -- and previously unexplored -- archives left by the regime, which document every killing in cold bureaucracy-speak. The HRC has found that if the invasion had not happened, Saddam would have killed 70,000 people in the past year. Not sanctions: Saddam's tyranny alone.
Those who lament the deaths of the 880 Iraqis this month are right to be sad that life has been taken. But perhaps we should step back for a moment and remember how many lives have been saved since Saddam was removed.
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April 12, 2004
EXAMPLE
Last week I explored the Left-leaning tendencies of the
textbook I'm using in teaching my ENGL 101 class. Today I started studying Chapter 9: Example.
The sample topic:
Write and essay that uses at least three extended examples to support the thesis that poverty exists in your neighborhood, town, or state.
Poverty is all relative; slums in the US are affluent neighborhoods in many places in the world. Wanna see what Iraqis live in near my husband?
But OK, fine. Some people are poor in the US by US standards. It's just the unquestioning assertion that "poverty is everywhere" that bugs me somehow.
Because the topic is already specified in the wording of the assignment, the aim of your prewriting efforts should be to find the area of poverty in your neighborhood, town, or state you wish to cover and to amass specific details that you can include in your examples. If you are like most of us, you will find poverty just around the corner. As a prewriting activity, we suggest you take a drive to the affected area and look it over for yourself. [emphasis mine]
That's not an objective sentence for an instructional textbook.
I also laughed when I saw that one of the essays in this chapter, given as a model of good example writing, is by Maureen Dowd. If you don't think my textbook leans Left, you're smoking crack.
The real kicker was at the very end of the chapter. There's ususally a photo writing assignment, where there's some photo that's supposed to make you think. This writing assignment makes me ashamed to be using this book:
The photo of a young girl peering from among a group of burka-clad Afghan women is an example of how a garment can represent a strong tradition. Write an essay in which you use two or three other examples of clothing that represents a tradition among some group.
In my world, the burka is not equal to lederhosen or a grass skirt.
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I have an essay writing textbook dating back to '92. I hadn't looked at it for years, but recently I was browsing through it, and to my surprise, Andrew Sullivan was cited as an example. Naturally because he was writing about homosexuality, but I immediately thought that the author of the textbook probably didn't think Sullivan would become what he has.
As to the finding poverty writing assignment, I'd find examples of moral poverty, and intellectual poverty, rather than monetary. I'm perverse like that. The childless rich miser kinda theme, ya know....
Posted by: Blueshift at April 12, 2004 05:36 AM (crTpS)
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Blueshift has a point about poverty. The braindead variety IS everywhere.
I wouldn't jump to quick conclusions about Dowd without looking at what example of her work is included. (Maybe you've already done that. Sorry if you have.) Prior to 9/11, I used to read Dowd and found her columns to be occasionally entertaining. She wrote a piece on Irish-American stereotypes on TV that might've come from my pen, er, keyboard. (Hollywoodizations of ethnicity irritate me.) If the essay is an old Dowd column, it might be OK; if it's post-9/11, then your suspicions may be on the mark. A Dowd essay is not the red flag that a Chomsky essay would be.
Posted by: Amritas at April 12, 2004 06:12 AM (4UGE/)
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Sarah, it's posts like this that have been making me check your site first thing in the morning each day. Thanks.
How about this essay question:
"Write and essay that uses at least three extended examples to support the thesis that Communist sympathizers and lackeys exist in your university, newspaper, television station or legislature."
Posted by: annika at April 12, 2004 02:18 PM (zAOEU)
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Could it be that the textbook you are using is meant for teaching anywhere in the world, where poverty exists all over?
Do you know that 25% of the children in the USA live below the official poverty line?
Do you see that someone with the opposite bias as yours, say an Islamic fundamentalist, would see that photo and caption and say that it is horribly biased against burqhas because the girl looks so unhappy, stuck between scary burqhas?
You people are hilarious, picking apart a textbook like that. Here is another take, the equivalent of your perceptions, from the other extreme, on your previous examples from the textbook:
1. A new real admiral takes over a fleet and waits for the enemy.
!!Pro-militaristic, pro-war, Right Wing Bias!
2. Baby boomers worry about inflation and interest rates.
Capitalistic, Imperialist, Right Wing Bias.
3. We must worry about nuclear holocaust.
Sounds like Condi Rice. Fear the Nukes, So Increase Defense Spending: Right Wing Militaristic Bias
4. Americans are intolerant.
And Proud of it? Good Old Boy Conservative Bias.
5. Tennis is a sport for the millions.
We all know tennis is mainly played by the wealthy. Upper Class Imperialistic Capitalist Bias.
6. We all struggle over physical traits that make us feel different.
Eugenics, Perfect Aryan Body Types: Right Wing Nazi Bias.
7. The government should provide jobs for everyone.
Full Employment, MussoliniÂ’s promise to Italy: Fascist Bias.
8. Imagination is more important than knowledge.
? ? ?
9. Geoffrey was far from his goal of climbing the hill.
British Spelling of Geoffrey: Anglophilic Conservative Bias.
10.My anthropology teacher loved teaching.
OK, this is clear cut leftist bias. Anthropology=Darwin=antiBible, antiChristian Godless Communism!
There, 8 out of 10 showing clear cut right wing leanings. Now isnÂ’t that a little bit ridiculous? As ridiculous as the other extreme?
Posted by: florian at April 12, 2004 04:56 PM (WA0/w)
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Florian, you've already said all that before. I thought you were over the top last week, and I still think so today. Posting it again doesn't make it better.
Posted by: Sarah at April 12, 2004 05:11 PM (byQeW)
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I knew the above post was from Florian before I ever scrolled down to his/her name. Florian, you should really spend more time reading other blogs. You're extremely confrontational and argumentative. I'm tired of hearing what you have to say.
Posted by: Nancy at April 12, 2004 11:15 PM (boDJK)
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I loved the opening, 'You people'. Those first two words display a mind closed to any discussion.
Posted by: Blueshift at April 13, 2004 12:27 AM (crTpS)
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Confrontational? I used some humor in there. Or at least tried. Now, instead of nitpicking my word choice, how about addressing any of the points?
Posted by: florian at April 13, 2004 05:19 AM (v5x9Y)
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florian, if you are really concerned about poverty, then go create some wealth. Poverty is the universal human default condition. Prosperity is the exception. Try learning enough of basic economics to understand why Western capitalistic societies are the exception to the general poverty of human history.
I don't think you care about poor people, witness your statements about the oppression of women in Moslem countries. Your hatred of the culture that makes your pathetic existence possible is just the externalizing of your self-loathing.
Posted by: Infidel at April 13, 2004 04:37 PM (Hsc95)
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Whoa, Infid., whose the one filled with bitterness and spite, there? And if you would read just slightly more carefully, you would see that my comment about the photo, re oppression of muslim women, was a representation of a ridiculously extreme Islamic fundamentalist view. In order to make a point that the views expressed on this textbook issue (seeing liberal bias behind every rock) are just as extreme in the other direction. Got it?
Sarah, you are right, my comments were intentionally over the top -- to show you how much yours are.
Posted by: florian at April 14, 2004 07:37 AM (v5x9Y)
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April 11, 2004
CYCLE
In Albany, Ga., barber Marty Ford keeps the television in his shop tuned to Fox news so customers can get the latest from Iraq.
"Time," is a word he emphasizes.
"It's only been a year. We got rid of that government and things are on the mend. It just takes time," said Ford, 46.
I spoke Friday out of frustration. I'm still frustrated. I read all the reactions here about what we should do, and I feel every one of those reactions every day. My emotions are on a cycle, but my resolve is stalwart; we will see this through and we will succeed.
Florian quotes Riverbend, not one of the Iraqi blogs I read. No common ground. In response, I quote Healing Iraq:
It is the most foolish and selfish thing to say "pull the troops out", or "replace them with the UN or NATO". Someone has to see us through this mess to the end. Only a deluded utopian (or an idiot peace activist) would believe that Iraqis would all cosily sit down and settle down their endless disputes without AK-47's, RPG's, or mortars in the event of coalition troops abandoning Iraq. Please please don't get me wrong, I am not in the least saying that I enjoy being occupied by a foreign force, I am not a dreamer who believes that the USA is here for altruistic reasons, I am not saying that I am happy with what my bleeding country is going through, believe me when I say it tears my heart every day to witness all the bloodshed, it pains me immensely to see that we have no leaders whomsoever with the interest and well-being of Iraq as their primary goal, it kills me to see how blind and ignorant we have all become. Iraqis are dying inside every day, and we are committing suicide over and over and over. Some people call me a traitor or a collaborator for all the above and for speaking the truth as opposed to rhetorical, fiery speeches which have been our downfall.
Zeyad too is going through the cycle of reactions. No one wants to see people dead, but war is sometimes the only avenue to peace.
My instincts tell me that.
MORE TO GROK:
Re-reading what I wrote back in November helps too.
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Didn't we bring your archives across?
Uh, evidently not.
Would you like to?
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 11, 2004 05:36 PM (+S1Ft)
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I know what you mean. While driving up to my parents' house on Saturday I was in tears and really down. Now it's Monday morning and I'm feeling better. Partly it's from time spent with my newphew, partly from getting better info about what's going on where Nerdstar is, and a lot of it has to do with her encouraging words.
Posted by: beth at April 12, 2004 01:49 PM (qyrnu)
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Sarah, if you don't read Riverbend, how do you know you have no common ground? How can you quote someone "in response" to what you haven't read? It so happens that Riverbend's words from Iraq are not so different from the response you cited. She doesn't say "pull the troops out tomorrow" kind of things. And even the Healing I. that you cite charges that the US is in Iraq for its own benefit, not Iraq's. Is this your position, then?
In terms of common ground, you and Riverbend are both young women with loved ones under threat in Iraq, as I said before. You both have personal reason to care what happens. That's a starting point right there, isn't it?
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April 09, 2004
CHAIR
This photo made me start crying.
The caption at AP:
On the anniversary of the fall of Baghdad, an American soldier removes posters of Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr that were hanging Friday April 9 2004 on a statue on Firdos Square in Baghdad, Iraq. One year ago, U.S. soldiers pulled down Saddam Hussein's statue from this very place. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)
One year ago today, I was so happy for the Iraqis. I sat on the sofa at Fort Knox and cheered wildly as they tore that statue down. I wept for the Iraqis and their newfound freedom; now I weep for their newfound vengeance.
If you remember, the statue of Saddam wasn't the only thing to come down from that pedestal last year. The American flag an overzealous soldier hung up there was quickly taken down, lest the world think we came as conquerors. We were there to give Iraq to the Iraqis, and they've repaid us by burning our dead and hanging them from a bridge.
I just finished reading Nine Parts of Desire: The Hidden World of Islamic Women. It was written by an Australian woman who spent years studying Muslim women throughout the Middle East. The last chapter was the most interesting, where she recounted her frustration in dealing with women who accepted the status quo. No matter how many times she tried to point out that the oppression of women is a distortion of Muhammad's words in the Koran, the Muslim women refused to believe that the way they were living was not in accordance with Allah's will. You open the Koran and point to a specific passage, and it still doesn't help.
We can point to all the good things we've brought to Iraq -- removal of Saddam, strengthened economy, freedom of speech -- but it doesn't seem to do any good. They hate us. They chose to hate us even before we showed up, and nothing we point at will make them change their minds.
You know how Plato said that stuff about the ideal chair and the real chair? One year ago my mental Iraqi was the ideal Iraqi. I imagined that they cowered under Saddam and longed for freedom in the way I would long for it if I were oppressed. I imagined that they would be grateful to be rid of such a foul leader and ready to start anew in Iraq. The majority of Iraqis, in my mind, were the ideal. Turns out there are a lot more real Iraqis and less ideal Iraqis than I had guessed.
I look at that soldier and wonder what he must be thinking. Damn, are we here again? Full circle, with just another hateful man's face atop this pedestal? Have we made any progress at all in this past year?
This week it feels like we haven't. This week I want to say, "Give the Iraqis their al-Sadr and let's go home." This week I've lost sight of the reason all of this matters. My laser beam has burned out, my ideal chair turns out to be some junky armchair at the side of the road, and my tears are flowing for that soldier who has to climb to the top of that pedestal again one year later and tear down the image of another dangerous leader.
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In our IM last night, all Nerdstar and I could keep coming back to is how stupid and frustrating so much of what's happening over there is. You wrote it a lot more eloquently that I have.
Hang in there!
Posted by: beth at April 09, 2004 07:23 PM (G7Amc)
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Plato also likened reality to the shadows that are thrown on the cave wall by the flickering flames of the fire. We often see the shadows and try to grasp the reality (aka your "real" chairs.
The reality in Iraq - if I read the right sources, is that the average Iraqi is delighted that we have made the ultimate sacrifice to provide their freedom and chance for democracy. But there are many that are threatened by this - especially in Iran and Syria - that are now engaged in the fight to destroy what has been won at a price of American lives, we are not fighting against a civil war but against trained guerillas from foreign countries. And our fine troops will win.
The experience we had in Japan and Germany after WWII was similar. There were vicious attacks that we forget today. Peace and democracy come at a dear price. This is a journey that the Iraquis - if they make it - will be making for many years to come. The only question is whether we will give up before this has a chance to work.
Moving from Plato to a more common experience, birth: we are still in delivery and the baby is viable. But the pain is enormous to the mother at this point. She can terminate the new life - and lose the baby; or perservere and hope the child will grow and prosper. Even that is not guaranteed. No parent can fortell what the child will become.
God help us and the Iraqi people if we waver or fail in this venture.
Posted by: RobertP at April 10, 2004 03:20 AM (1+mnL)
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Elsewhere you have written that US soldiers' lives are worth more than Iraqi civilian lives. And you are shocked and saddened that Iraqis are supporting their own extremist leaders and want the US out?
Consider the words of a young Iraqi woman, your age and worried about her loved ones, as you are:
"Where are the useless Governing Council? Why isn't anyone condemning the killings in the south and in Falloojeh?! Why aren't they sitting down that fool Bremer and telling him that this is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong??? If one of them were half a man or even half a human, they would threaten to resign their posts if there isn't an immediate ceasefireÂ… the people are enraged. This latest situation proves that they aren't Iraqi- they aren't here for the welfare of the Iraqi people.
"The American and European news stations don't show the dying IraqisÂ… they don't show the women and children bandaged and bleeding- the mother looking for some sign of her son in the middle of a puddle of blood and dismembered arms and legsÂ… they don't show you the hospitals overflowing with the dead and dying because they don't want to hurt American feelingsÂ… but people *should* see it. You should see the price of your war and occupation- it's unfair that the Americans are fighting a war thousands of kilometers from home. They get their dead in neat, tidy caskets draped with a flag and we have to gather and scrape our dead off of the floors and hope the American shrapnel and bullets left enough to make a definite identificationÂ…"
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com
You write that your instincts are telling you "Let's go home." TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS.
Posted by: florian at April 11, 2004 07:37 AM (SEBm0)
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Whoa, hold on, let's see if there's another way to look at this.
As I see it, a year later and they have finally gotten their stuff together for their big counterattack, their big show of force before handover. It's their Battle of the Bulge. The coordination shows this has been planned for some time.
And this is it. Some pictures of a crazed young cleric. A few thousand hostiles terrorizing the civilians. A few hits against our non-front-line troops. YES, I grieve for those who have been hurt and lost in this, but let's keep it in perspective.
On the positive side, this is forcing the GC to finally step up and try taking some responsibility, in a very visible way. This is part of the baby-steps we have to hold their hand for while they're learning to walk. Will it work? Don't know yet. If not, we'll try something else. Remember, the reason we're there are the terrible alternatives if we were not. Those alternatives still await us if we turn away.
As to Riverbend, she's been the most pro-Saddam of all the Iraqi bloggers, and the reasons seem pretty clear. No matter what she thinks, we're not going anywhere for some time.
Posted by: DSmith at April 11, 2004 05:18 PM (ZG0r7)
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How twisted, DS, to call Riverbend "pro Saddam". It shows you have never read her. If you have any integrity you will write her and apologize.
And you write "a year later and they have finally gotten their stuff together for their big counterattack". Who are *they*? We have been told it was Saddam's sons were leading the attacks, or Saddam, then foreigners, then Al Queda, then Al Sadr... What is obvious is regular moderate Iraqi people have gotten sick of the US government's lies about the invasion and occupation.
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April 05, 2004
EXAMPLES
David from
Photon Courier asked for more details about the
textbook items I discussed this weekend.
These examples came from an exercise on sentence generating in Chapter 3 The Sentence: Combining, Generating, Judging, which had nothing to do with persuasion, argumentation, or anything other than grammar. In fact, on the first page of the chapter where it introduces independent and dependent clauses, the sole example given is:
The level of poverty and squalor in large cities is appalling when one considers our country's wealth.
Can you pick out the dependent clause? Ha. The directions for the sentence generating exercise were to add a clause or phrase to each sentence provided (to practice working with dependent clauses and description). Thus these three sentences:
a. One of the odd things foreigners notice about Americans is their intolerance.
b. This intolerance frequently extends to race, creeds, and role expectations.
c. It often baffles foreigners, many of whom regard the United States Constitution as enshrining just the opposite principles of tolerance and understanding.
were fleshed out into this example given at the end of the chapter:
One of the odd things foreigners notice about Americans--whether Republicans or Democrats, urban dwellers or country folks--is their intolerance. This intolerance frequently extends to race, creeds, and role expectations, carrying with it a willingness to shun and physically punish the ones perceived as different. It often baffles foreigners, many of whom regard the United States Constitution, with its emphasis on respect for individual freedoms, as enshrining just the opposite principles of tolerance and understanding.
And the other sentences didn't lean Right by any stretch. My quick version of their topics:
1. A new real admiral takes over a fleet and waits for the enemy.
2. Baby boomers worry about infation and interest rates.
3. We must worry about nuclear holocaust.
4. Americans are intolerant.
5. Tennis is a sport for the millions.
6. We all struggle over physical traits that make us feel different.
7. The government should provide jobs for everyone.
8. Imagination is more important than knowledge.
9. Geoffrey was far from his goal of climbing the hill.
10.My anthropology teacher loved teaching.
The other seven are blandly non-controversial. Why the examples about intolerance and socialism?
How about another example from the chapter?
The pure individualist is an unhappy person whose memories of selfish behavior haunt her.
Compare that to the non-controversial example that follows it:
Newton's analysis of the light in a rainbow was a brilliant achievement that few people have matched.
There was one example of sentence combining that was not really biased either way:
a. The trouble between the Israelis and Palestinians is a clash between two cultures.
b. These cultures are fighting for supremacy in the Middle East.
(That one could have been a lot worse! Or a lot better...)
The only Right-leaning sentence example I could find was way down in Chapter 14 Causal Analysis:
Admissions quotas based on sex, ethnic background, or age are bad because they discriminate against the capable student.
No Right-leaning sentences in Chapter 3, though one of Joanne Jacob's readers says that we can find the same number of Right-leaning examples as we can Left-leaning, so this doesn't mean anything. On the contrary, I think there are more Left-leaning examples in Chapter 3 than I'd consider balanced.
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Un-freaking-believable. Thank goodness I remember practically nothing from high-school!
Posted by: david at April 05, 2004 12:19 PM (EjwYl)
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Here is the equivalent of your perceptions, from the other extreme:
1. A new real admiral takes over a fleet and waits for the enemy.
Pro-militaristic, pro-war, Right Wing Bias.
2. Baby boomers worry about inflation and interest rates.
Capitalistic, Imperialist, Right Wing Bias.
3. We must worry about nuclear holocaust.
Sounds like Condi Rice. Fear the Nukes, So Increase Defense Spending: Right Wing Militaristic Bias
4. Americans are intolerant.
And Proud of it? Good Old Boy Conservative Bias.
5. Tennis is a sport for the millions.
We all know tennis is mainly played by the wealthy. Upper Class Imperialistic Capitalist Bias.
6. We all struggle over physical traits that make us feel different.
Eugenics, Perfect Aryan Body Types: Right Wing Nazi Bias.
7. The government should provide jobs for everyone.
Full Employment, MussoliniÂ’s promise to Italy: Fascist Bias.
8. Imagination is more important than knowledge.
? ? ?
9. Geoffrey was far from his goal of climbing the hill.
British Spelling of Geoffrey: Anglophilic Conservative Bias.
10.My anthropology teacher loved teaching.
OK, this is clear cut leftist bias. Anthropology=Darwin=antiBible, antiChristian Godless Communism!
There, 8 out of 10 showing clear cut right wing leanings. Now isnÂ’t that a little bit ridiculous? As ridiculous as the other extreme?
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HUMOR
Two of my students already seem to have figured out that I like to have fun in class. Their homework last week was to add their own clauses to the sentences in the exercise that included the
Lefty examples. Their responses:
"Too many jobless people with nothing to do are beginning to overpopulate Starbucks; that is why our government must provide a job for everyone who is willing and able to work."
"One of the many odd things foreigners notice when they come to the United States about American people is their intolerance, but most of them are the same way when Americans come to their country."
Good to see they have a sense of humor.
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I take it you don't work in a public school...
Posted by: florian at April 05, 2004 04:44 PM (ekKvC)
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I take it you don't work for a public school...
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April 03, 2004
AGENDA
Is there any doubt that academia leans to the Left? Check out these examples on independent/dependent clauses from the
textbook I'm using in my English class:
3. It may seem profitless to worry about a nuclear holocaust--a third world war in which entire continents could be wiped out. However, after we study the historical trends of world powers and realize how simple it is to create nuclear power, common sense dictates that the possibility must be confronted honestly.
4. One of the odd things foreigners notice about Americans--whether Republicans or Democrats, urban dwellers or country folks--is their intolerance. This intolerance frequently extends to race, creeds, and role expectations, carrying with it a willingness to shun and physically punish the ones perceived as different. It often baffles foreigners, many of whom regard the United States Constitution, with its emphasis on respect for individual freedoms, as enshrining just the opposite principles of tolerance and understanding.
7. When a poor, unemployed woman, struggling to keep her children clothed and fed on a paltry welfare check, sees her neighbor working as a waitress even though the neighbor's husband has a steady job as a mechanic at the local Chevrolet dealer, she may become resentful. The waitress, of course, may feel guilty, knowing that she has a job whereas her neighbor has not been able to find one. That is why our government must create an economy that is healthy enough to provide a job for everyone who is able and willing to work.
So no matter what I say in my classroom, I'm unwillingly supporting this textbook whose blatant Leftist agenda makes me cringe. Americans feel guilty about their wealth, are going to cause a nuclear holocaust, and are so intolerant that other countries look down on them.
Tell that to Sweden, North Korea, and France, respectively.
MORE TO GROK:
Yes, I was indeed a last-minute hire (hired exactly eleven days before the class started), but it wouldn't have mattered anyway. The school I work for has campuses all over the world, nearly everywhere that servicemembers are stationed. They encourage uniformity of text and syllabus so that someone who takes this class in Germany is getting just about the same thing as someone taking the class in Bosnia or Okinawa. The decision on the texts is made at a much higher level than little ol' me.
And one of the students did comment on these sentences when he turned in his homework. He said, "What's with all the depressing examples?"
MORE:
Check out my students' examples from their homework.
MORE:
See a detailed look at Chapter 3 here.
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Why did you list Sweden and France together with North Korea? In my eyes, they are on different planes of vileness. There are Leftists, and then there are LEFTISTS. I am not excusing Sweden and France. On the contrary, this kind of conflation can trivialize the evil of North Korea by giving it an implicit veneer of civilization that it does not deserve.
Anyway, that book is sick, and I shall attack the passages on my site shortly. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: Amritas at April 03, 2004 10:40 AM (ohc9/)
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It used to be that teachers had some say in what text books they were going to use...is that no longer the case?
Posted by: Susie at April 03, 2004 11:07 AM (dD4I4)
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Marc - I think Sarah is saying that Swedes feel guilty about their wealth, the North Koreans are likely to cause a nuclear holocaust, and the French are intolerant.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 03, 2004 11:37 AM (+S1Ft)
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Thanks, Pixy. The parallelism went right past me because the order of points in the passage is slightly different - I would have expected North Korea first, France second, and Sweden last. But now I see she was referring back to her penultimate sentence.
Posted by: Amritas at April 03, 2004 11:43 AM (ohc9/)
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Susie,
I don't know about Sarah's situation, but as a last minute hire I can tell you that if one gets a job at the last moment one has to use books ordered months in advance by someone else. It is, of course, possible to have those books returned and have students order new books through Amazon.com, but that's a hassle.
Posted by: Amritas at April 03, 2004 11:45 AM (ohc9/)
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That's a
textbook? For what course? "Leftists Lies About America"? "The French Point of View"? Wow... how on Earth are you going to survive this class?
Posted by: CavalierX at April 03, 2004 11:58 AM (sA6XT)
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Sarah,
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Susie,
I was hired as a professor at the last minute. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
Cavalier,
It's a textbook to speak English the French way.
Talk like a Frenchman without learning French! OK, that was really low ...
Posted by: Amritas at April 03, 2004 12:45 PM (ohc9/)
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And you were worried about bringing your writing in to the class as an example! it would be interesting to see the comparative reaction of students to your work and the ideas in this text.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at April 03, 2004 05:13 PM (CSxVi)
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Stephen's right. See if your students agree or disagree with the text. Have them discuss or, better yet, write their reactions to it.
Posted by: Amritas at April 03, 2004 05:34 PM (ikrbX)
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Sarah,
When I was going to school in Minnesota (U of M, Twin Cities), I always dismissed the textbook issue as one of professors spweing thier party lines and hidden agendas.
Here in Korea, when students complain about the text the profs always say that's what Troy State, UMUC, or CTC "makes" them use, and if they want to complain about it, use the course critique sheet and it might change next term or the acedemic next year. Do you have any say, or is Amritas correct about the short fuse of just getting hired?
Posted by: KimcheeGI at April 03, 2004 07:11 PM (/h9nV)
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No wonder everyone hates Americans! But they sure don't turn down our foreign aid money and protection, do they?
Posted by: Madfish Willie at April 04, 2004 02:12 AM (JxHpA)
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Yup, all the other people of the world look down on us. They all hate us.
All of them.
All except the people in the rafts and overloaded boats who are dying to get here.
Posted by: homebru at April 04, 2004 02:26 AM (1DyE4)
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And us Australians, who kind of like you. But why do you keep pulling all the good shows off TV? Futurama, Buffy, Angel, Firefly... Sob.
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homebru,
True, but the sad thing is that the kids and grandkids of "the people in the rafts and overloaded boats who are dying to get here" sometimes end up hating the country that saved their families. The first generation groks freedom, but later generations may take it for granted.
Posted by: Amritas at April 04, 2004 10:32 AM (T8ud7)
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I just remembered one class in international relations I took in college. The text was written by the professor teaching the course. Even needing the grade and the credits I wasn't able to keep my mouth shut. I will give him credit for grading me based on my understanding of the material and not on my disagreement with his politics. And I secretly hope it hurt just a little to give me that A.
Posted by: Stephen Macklin at April 04, 2004 11:16 AM (CSxVi)
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Sarah..nice blog. I want to write about this, and want to be sure I have the reference right. The book is "From Idea to Essay," published by Pearson Education...is that right?
What is the context around these preposterous paragraphs? Is it stuff about writing, or more stuff about politics?
Posted by: David Foster at April 04, 2004 09:26 PM (XUtCY)
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Give me a break...
(1) Gee, why is your first example considered a "liberal" example??? Wasn't Condi Rice supposed to give a speech on 9/11 about the immediate threat of nuclear missile attack from unstable regimes, and how necessary it is for us to create a "Star Wars" missile defense???
(2) I don't doubt one can find a few "liberal" examples in grammar texts... but your few anecdotes don't prove anything... I'm sure I could find a few "conservative" examples...
Trying to prove a point by reliance on anecdotes is futile, because those who disagree could easily find competing anecdotes...
So unless you have an objective study of some sort, then this is pointless...
Posted by: jab at April 04, 2004 09:28 PM (pMjZc)
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>Talk like a Frenchman without learning French!
Shoot, I can teach you THAT. Light up a Gauloise, take a drag, hold it between thumb and forefinger, stare down your nose, and say, "Life? Life ees
merde."
Posted by: CavalierX at April 04, 2004 09:41 PM (sA6XT)
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"Wasn't Condi Rice supposed to give a speech on 9/11 about the immediate threat of nuclear missile attack from unstable regimes"...so..you think there *isn't* a danger of a nuclear missile attack (on us, or on Japan) from North Korea? Do you feel absolutely certain that there is no danger of such attack from any of the countries acquiring Chinese missile technology, or building their own? How many lives are you willing to bet on that conclusion?
The fact that "a" is a threat in no way proves that "b" is not also a threat.
Posted by: David Foster at April 04, 2004 10:09 PM (XUtCY)
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I think most of the military personnel would understand the difference between nuclear power and nuclear weapons. One does not necessarily lead to the other.
Posted by: D. Woolwine at April 05, 2004 01:50 AM (ZZ+/m)
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Mr. Foster,
The host gave the following as an example of LIBERAL bias in a grammar text:
"It may seem profitless to worry about a nuclear holocaust--a third world war in which entire continents could be wiped out. However, after we study the historical trends of world powers and realize how simple it is to create nuclear power, common sense dictates that the possibility must be confronted honestly."
The host claimed this is proof of "liberal bias"?
How is worrying about the possibility of nuclear war "liberal bias"? I pointed out that conservatives such as Dr. Condi Rice also worry about the possibility of nuclear war... so much in fact that she was supposed to give a speech on the need for missile defense shield...
So again, how is this exaample from a grammar text an instance of liberal bias?
If you reread my post, I never said nuclear war was not a threat, I merely pointed out that Condi Rice thought it was a threat... so this example cannot be proof of liberal bias.
Posted by: jab at April 05, 2004 03:28 AM (pMjZc)
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Perhaps I was hasty in assuming that this first example was biased, but a comment about "world powers" seems directed to the US to me and not to, say, Pakistan or North Korea, two countries we should be worried about but that aren't considered "world powers". Condi Rice used "unstable regimes" and not "world powers", which is not saying the same thing as this sentence in the textbook, in my opinion.
Even if I admit that #3 was a weak example, that's still two shockingly Left-leaning sentences in an exercise of only ten sentences. That's a strong bias, when none of the others leaned Right. (I can provide the other seven if you're really interested.)
David: there was no context at all. This was a grammar exercise where the students were supposed to add dependent clauses to sentences to flesh out the ideas. These were the possible examples given at the end of the exercise. If they had been in the chapter on argumentative writing instead, that would have made some sense to me. But in the grammar review?
Posted by: Sarah at April 05, 2004 11:20 AM (ctmsL)
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Sarah,
As for my second point...
I'm sure I could go to the library, dig up some grammar books, find examples of supposed conservative bias, and post them... Would that change your mind? No, I didn't think so... because I hope you're smart enough to realize that argument by anecdote is POINTLESS... you post your examples, I post mind... gets us nowhere...
On the other hand, if you can point to an objective study showing bias, that would be different... but I'm not going to get worked up by a couple of anecdotes... some weak at that.
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Well, jab, you seem to be pretty "worked up" to me...
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They are ALL weak examples of so-called liberal bias. Yes, provide all ten examples, so we can judge for ourselves and not through your right-wing blinders.
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Just keep scrolling through
LGF today.
Everyone's there: Hitchens, Simon, Hanson, etc.
The short version for my mama: Daily Kos is the biggest left-wing blog out there. When the contractors were killed in Fallujah, he wrote this:
I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They arenÂ’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.
Then he deleted it (but not before lots of people saw it) and put a longer more nuanced post up instead. I read it and dove into the comments section until I felt like choking and had to look away.
Here's what I don't like:
Back to Iraq, our men and women in uniform are there under orders, trying to make the best of an impossible situation. The war is not their fault, and I will always defend their honor and bravery to the end of my days. But the mercenary is a whole different deal. They willingly enter a war zone, and do so because of the paycheck. They're not there for humanitarian reasons (I doubt they'd donate half their paycheck to the Red Cross or whatever). They're there because the money is DAMN good.
Kos, if I may use your own words, Screw you.
I don't want someone like Kos even thinking of my husband. I don't want him commenting on his bravery or defending his honor or talking about him or even thinking about him. The thought makes me sick, to be honest. The idea that someone who doesn't care one bit about the death of Americans who are working in Iraq to try to bring infrastructure and economic growth gets all sappy and noble when talking about soldiers makes me sick. I don't care for Kos' empty Support Our Troops claims, and I'm fairly certain my husband doesn't either. My husband is not there to "make the best of an impossible situation"; he's there to clean up the Middle East so that people like Kos never have to face a terrorist.
A commenter:
It doesn't matter what the Falluja attackers saw in these 4 men. I see in them war profiteers who's interest in Iraq is soley pecuniary. I am not obliged to consider them my representatives nor to feel any sympathy for them. As a member of the human race, I am obliged, and I do, feel sympathy for their families; no one should have to see the bodies of their loved ones desecrated in such a way. These guys should've thought of that possibility before signing up.
What is conspicuously absent from Kos' comments section is a condemnation of the f-ing Arabs who burned these bodies and beat them with sticks. Instead, these four deserved what they got because they were out to make a profit.
I'm so nauseated right now I can't think straight.
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Sarah, your rational intellect and awareness will return soon, stay calm.
You're learning of the depth and extent of depravity of the Kos-like leftists of this world. The first few doses can be VERY sickening, indeed. Their lack of moral sense, their willingness to trash America, their vile spew...
Stay strong. Decent Americans across the political spectrum are with you. And our prayers are with you, Ma'am.
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Kos is a military veteran himself...
he served in the first Gulf War...
He was obviously not thinking clearly when he posted, but his point was that he was upset that all this attention was being paid to these 4, and not to the 5 soldiers killed the same day...
He thought the outrage should have been that U.S. soldiers were being killed...
AS for your "nausea"... well, I feel "nauseted" myself over how far the right/conservatives have spun this war as a humanitarian mission when we all know full well that was the farthest/furthest (Gee, grammer teacher, help me out) thing from their true rationale...
The huminatarian justification is just a cover...
it's a way for the administration to supress dissent... "You don't agree with the Iraq war? Gee, you must be a commie pinko terrorist supporter then who revels in the torture of the poor innocent Iraquis."
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April 01, 2004
NOT CALM
Today was supposed to be the calm day after three hectic days of class registration and beginning a new job. I've already worked 42 hours this week and I still have to work Friday and Saturday. But today was a normal 8-hour shift with nothing going on in the evening.
It was supposed to be calm.
Instead I turned on the computer this morning to this LGF post:
IÂ’m just going to ask one simple question.
Why hasnÂ’t the United States already launched an overwhelmingly armed operation to recover the remains of our citizens murdered today in Fallujah, and punish those responsible?
Their body parts are still hanging from that goddamned bridge.
What the hell is wrong with us?
Uh oh. What happened? Scrolling, scrolling. Oh my god. The photos. The disgust. I don't care if Satan himself were killed on Times Square, American adults would shield children from seeing the carnage. We'd cover their eyes, distract them somehow, pick them up and carry them away. We wouldn't give them f-ing sticks to poke at burned bodies.
Not calm.
Then at the end of my work day, I got an email from my little brother: Mom's in the hospital because of her blood pressure. Told myself that someone would have written a more pressing email if something were really wrong, and came home to call Dad. She's OK now, just her blood pressure was 202. I blame it on blogs; I knew the stuff posted on LGF was bad for your health.
Not so calm.
And then I sit down to Lileks, finally...he kept me waiting all day, you know. But it was well worth the wait. Lileks is not calm today either. He's switched on. He's on fire. He's ticked. It was worth the wait to read his take on how Kerry should have answered the questions on MTV, to feel his outrage at Kerry's distortions and selective memory, and to nod my head as he works himself into a frenzy.
Is the world angry at North Korea for killings its people? Angry at Iran for smothering that vibrant nation with corrupt and thuggish mullocracy? Angry at Syria for occupying Lebanon? Angry at Saudi Arabia for its denial of womenÂ’s rights? Angry at Russia for corrupt elections? Is the world angry at China for threatening Taiwan, or angry at France for joining the Chinese in joint military exercises that threatened the island on the eve of an election? Is the world angry at Zimbabwe for stealing land and starving people? Is the world angry at Pakistan for selling nuclear secrets? Is the world angry at Libya for having an NBC program?
Is the world angry at the thugs of Fallujah?
Is the world angry at anyone besides America and Israel?
Not calm today. But then no one ever said knowledge of how the world works was the best thing for your blood pressure.
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Well, this little part of the world is pretty darn angry. These people - not all Iraqis, but the people who did this - are barbarians.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 01, 2004 08:37 PM (kOqZ6)
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Agree, agree, AGREE!! Angry, angry, ANGRY!! I don't think we can shoot the children placing their boots on the heads of bodies (did you read that one?) or poking them. Maybe we can undo the brainwashing if we get to them quickly enough. But I'd suggest a limited military strike and immediate cessation of re-building anything. Hey, go ahead and rip out the wiring and plumbing for what we've already re-built. And don't give it back until they give us the thugs that planned this. (And if you take out the plumbing disease becomes much more likely. I'm a very vindictive woman, a major fault I live with daily.)
Posted by: Oda Mae at April 02, 2004 02:50 AM (s7JOc)
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My son (on his way home this week!) made it clear to me that respect means everything in Iraq. And respect comes from power in the Arab world.
Although Iraqis are years ahead of many Arabs in culture and politics, they are still bound by trappings of the 14th century. Blood feuds, tribal loyalty, and sectarian identification all play a part in this. Many on the left ask, "Why can't we just get along?" Well, getting along is a sign of weakness in that environment. Someone is always the boss.
It reminds me of our Indian Wars in the US. America tried to absorb and assimilate the tribes, but they wanted to go on fighting. The older men often were willing to change, but not the young ones. They asked, "How can you pick a chief if you don't fight?" Got to have battle credibility to be in charge.
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