A GROKKING POST
I like when other bloggers write about their grokking process. Rachel Lucas is never embarrassed to say, "Hey, I finally get this," and I enjoy reading her for that very reason. She has a new post up about the differences between American and British government. It's a grokking-type post, and I liked it. The comments are worth reading too, I think.
Sometimes, when you try to grok some things (like dark matter, string theory, people who don't believe in vaccinations, 9/11 troofers, or anything the fuschia farktards say) and you think you are starting to grok, you have to immediately roll a sanity check.
Posted by: Charles Ziegenfuss at May 21, 2009 03:48 PM (meX2d)
I got an email from an old real-life friend about my Done Waffling post. This friend pointed out that we had a diverse friend group in school, to include Hindus and Muslims, and that exposure to diversity is beneficial for a growing mind. It's a fair point.
My response to that is that no one from our friend group supported honor killings or jihad or shariah.
Look, you all know me by now. You know that I am not really a person who "celebrates diversity." I married someone whose only difference from me is that he likes to sleep. I want to live in a gulch surrounded by people who all think exactly like I do. I don't know if that's an appropriate worldview, but that's who I am. I celebrate homogeny.
But these friends of mine, these other kids who helped make me who I am, they were Americans. Sure, they had a different religion than most of us and they did funny things like fast during Ramadan or not eat beef, but they weren't fundamentally different in value systems than the rest of us. Their families were in the US because they wanted to live under the freedoms and opportunities that the US had to offer, not because they were trying to subvert the system from within.
In short, I don't lump old-school American Muslims in with the ominous groups portrayed in that video.
You don't have to be a WASP to be part of my tribe. But we do have to have common ground: tolerance, respect for the Constitution and institutions of the United States, and an ability to live and let live. Those are decidedly not mainstream beliefs in the communities from whence Muslim immigrants are flooding Europe.
My goal is not to outbreed American Muslims. My husband and I are close friends with two Muslim families that are perfectly lovely, normal, non-terrorist people. My kids could play with their kids any day. And my hope is that their kids will also act as a counterbalance to the extreme Islamofascists' progeny. I consider their kids as part of our American birthrate, not the scary Muslim one depicted in the video.
My goal is to fill our gulch with more like-minded people, to pass on a love for our unique country and all she stands for, and to raise children who can recognize the fundamental difference between the cool brown-skinned kids in their class and the scary enemy.
I don't see "fill[ing] our gulch with more like-minded people" as a racial, ethnic, or even religious struggle. The real struggle is ideological. Muslim-Americans are outnumbered by the millions of Americans of all racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds who support Leftism. I fear the latter more than the former.
Posted by: Amritas at May 19, 2009 07:03 PM (Wxe3L)
When I lived in Berkeley, my dorm's Muslim resident assistant went out of his way to explain that he was not a terrorist. This was about 20 years ago. I thought it was unnecessary. The guy was obviously assimilated. He never freaked me out. I was far more disturbed by activists on the streets. And I still am.
Posted by: Amritas at May 19, 2009 07:07 PM (Wxe3L)
We all tend toward what is familiar to us. So it is no surprise that we feel this way. I like homegeny of spirit and belief also. Those people with the same belief systems make it easy to be ourselves.
Again, it's not about race or religion. For me it's about being a fellow American. Someone who understands the phrase "United We Stand, Divided We Fall"
Sometime ask your friends to â€œproduce evidence of any mainstream Islamic sect or school of Islamic jurisprudence that teaches that Muslims must coexist with non-Muslims as equals on an indefinite basis without trying to subjugate them under Shariaâ€.
Simple enough, right? Please blog the answer sometime.
What an upside down world we live in. Once upon a time, village elders
were revered because they had lived long enough to know a little bit
about life and propriety. Even in the era of democracy, seniority
systems abounded. It's hard to imagine Grover Cleveland campaigning for
the "youth vote." But today we're told that the least experienced
voters are the ones we should be listening to, even as we worship our
least experienced president.
I think it's the logical outcome of a culture that puts so much emphasis on celebrities. People are famous not for their abilities (lets face it, Britney Spears isn't really that great at singing, there are far better actors than Hilary Duff out there, and what on earth is it that Paris Hilton DOES anyway?) but for their looks and their antics. And their antics aren't anything to be proud of, but consist of pushing the envelope more and more and more.
It trickles down. And a bunch of people who are not aging well (mentally) are desperately trying to recapture their own youth, or refusing to give it up. They are idolizing those younger and "new" instead of gracefully entering the next stage in a life that they have earned.
It really kind of grosses me out. I would not want to repeat my twenties. And I don't want to go anywhere NEAR my teens again. I don't get this cultural Uncle Rico phenomenon. Seriously.
Posted by: airforcewife at May 19, 2009 09:09 AM (NqbuI)
It's like 1968's Wild in the Streets, maaaan! Saw it when I was 17 in 1988. Might see it for real when I'm 47 in 2018. I'll be too old to vote by then. Eventually Logan's Run will become a reality.
Posted by: Amritas at May 19, 2009 02:10 PM (+nV09)
The excessive emphasis on formal education and specifically on
educational credentials is very useful for inter-generational warfare,
as it tends to level the playing field between the relatively recent
grad and the person with years of experience.
Also, certain economic climates tend to negate the value of age and
experience. I'm currrently re-reading Sebastian Haffner's book about
growing up and living in Germany during WWI and between the wars. In
his view, the great inflation of 1923 utterly shredded the existing
relationship between generations--"safe," conservative investors, such
as older people tended to be, were destroyed, while youthful
I spent all day yesterday waffling on the baby issue. Deep down, I don't feel that confident about going forward. I know you all say that babies are better than dogs, but I just don't know how to believe you. A year ago, I said this:
And I was never one of those women who loves babies or wanted to be a
kindergarten teacher her whole life. This may sound terrible, but
there's a part of me that's ready to throw in the towel because the
more elusive it gets, the less important it feels. The less
emotional it feels. I think human beings ought to procreate, and I
think that people with stable, loving homes like ours are a good place
for kids. (And Mark Steyn makes me think I need to have ten of them, to
shore up our numbers.) I was always fairly matter-of-fact about having
a baby anyway, and this year of over-thinking it hasn't helped any. My
husband re-convinces me every day to keep trying, because I'd love to
abandon hope and forget about it.
And now that even more time has passed, and we're looking at pain and money coming into the equation, I feel even less motivation. My husband says it's his job to force the issue and make it happen, because I keep changing my mind. He says doing IVF is my own personal deployment of sorts: no one truly wants to deploy, but they do it because it's the right thing to do and it's part of who they are and their value system.
This morning I found a video via Up North Mommy that stopped my waffling.
It reminded me of a major reason why I wanted to procreate in the first place: to create more humans with my value system. To make more Americans. I don't know how it sounds when I say things like that, but I mean it from the depth of everything I believe in. I'm not just being xenophobic or anti-Muslim; it's the loss of my own culture that motivates me. I'd like for there to be more people in this world like my husband and me, more people for my tribe, more people for our gulch.
And I'm now ready to spend $12,000 to make it happen.
Actually, that (the potential/impending loss of our culture) is one of the main reasons my husband wants us to have at least 4 or 5 kids in the long run. I think he actually showed me that very same video just last week. I have always wanted multiple kids so I have no serious objections, but I do have to agree with him that the thought of western civilization just fading and eventually disappearing due to demographic shift really saddens me.
Posted by: Leofwende at May 17, 2009 10:21 AM (28CBm)
Sarah's Uterus Reutilization Fund (SURF) Sarah and Russ' IVF Fund (SARIF) Walter's Reproductoin Is Starting Today (WRIST) Sarah's Big Belly Fund (SBBF) Sarah and Russ, IVF Now! (SARIN!) Please Help, Let's Everyone Give Her Maternity (PHLEGHM) Knocked Up For Our Life As We Know It (KUFOLAWKI) Put A Bun In Sarah's Oven (PABISO) Grokking Embryos Today So Our Mother Emerges (GETSOME) Motherhood Is Life's Flowering, And Sarah's Time Is Come! (MILFTASTIC!)
I'm sorry to do this in a post comment, but I'm looking for a working email address for Neil Prakash. I read all of hsi Armorgeddon Blog and I understand he's been promoted, isn't blogging any longer.
I just want to send him some "fanmail" and I can't, for the life of me, find an up-to-date email address for him.
Sorry to be "that guy".
Posted by: Tyler M at May 17, 2009 10:38 PM (QqVLv)
It could be worse financially. CPAC just declined to move my furniture and car back to the U.S., so I have the pleasure of spending a lot of money AND getting my same old furniture at the end. Can you say screwed by the system - again?
Posted by: Oda Mae at May 18, 2009 12:57 AM (9CCkr)
So I was thinking this fundraiser idea and then along comes Chuck. I sure can't top those acronyms. And I can't decide which is the funniest, but count me in for a little bit. Or helping with the babysitting if it's multiples. We all want to do our part for the culture;D
Posted by: Ruth H at May 18, 2009 11:26 AM (4u82p)
you made an excellent point! I was talking with my husband about this thing the other night and he said to just be prepared for when the boys go thru some sort of rebellion stage and instead of peircing something and wearing all black they end up turning ... dare I say it... liberal.
Really. I'm totally not ready for that. And dread the day.
Good luck with your next move making future yous (and your husband)
Posted by: the mrs. at May 18, 2009 02:58 PM (NJQf+)
Posted by: airforcewife at May 18, 2009 03:32 PM (NqbuI)
I vote for GETSOME or MILFTASTIC! I can make coozies!
Posted by: Lane at May 18, 2009 09:24 PM (W+Nqs)
I was thinking about this and it's estimated we'll spend what up to $250k on children to raise them through age 18. So although $12k does in isolation seem like a lot of money (because it is), in the grand scheme of how much you'll potentially spend on your child it probably is the greatest part you'll spend on them. It just means you're putting more of an investment into your child at the front end.
For some it just takes a pack of Camels from the local Speedway, peach schnapps and a prom night. For some of us it just takes a biiiiiit more. Plus, you can just have he/she/them work it off by walking Charlie a bunch.
Posted by: BigD78 at May 18, 2009 09:32 PM (g3z97)
I normally don't comment, but I just wanted to offer you some encouragement. A woman very close to my heart did IVF as that is the only way she could have children. She now has 3 beautiful daughters. She doesn't even think about the price tag anymore, and if she could do it again, she would. She did it twice. I won't say it wasn't a hellava roller coaster for her, but she doesn't regret it for one second.
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Tressa at May 18, 2009 11:00 PM (yY6P+)
A fiscal conservative, who
was perceived as a fiscal conservative running against a fiscal
liberal, would win a landslide greater than any in the history of these
two political parties. A candidate perceived as both a social
conservative and a fiscal conservative would win one quarter of the
Democrat Party vote, if the Democrat was perceived as a liberal, and
sweep the nation easily.
I believe that could be true. I think Republicans lose because they try to out-Democrat their opponents. I think a real, true conservative who stayed on point and principle, who didn't try to beat Democrats at their own game and instead stopped granting them their premises, would take the nation by storm.
John McCain lost fairly narrowly, and do you know anyone who really wanted him as our candidate?
That's why I never take anything for granted. When people complain to me about their parents, I listen as a friend and say nothing. When people are unreasonable about their parents short comings I remind them that parenthood does not come with a rule book.
When they complain too loudly about the bickering or the neediness or whatever their 'issue' is. I gently remind them that some day all the things they are currently bitching about they will miss and wish they had back even for 5 minutes. And then I also remind them I sadly know it as a fact.
Even with everything that went on this weekend, my life is still good. Thanks for posting this Sarah, I needed a little reminder this morning.
THE BADNESS OF OBAMA
Amritas pointed me towards a Lawrence Auster post that is the perfect explanation of how I too feel:
I have not been posting nearly as much about the actions of the
Obama administration as might have been expected. One reason for this
is that the badness of what Obama is doing, and the amount of it, and
the complexity of it, is overwhelming and I frankly find it hard to
take it in and form a view of it. When every day there are things being
done by the administration that are off the chart, outside the scope of
anything ever done by a U.S. president, how do you find adequate words
to describe it and do it justice?
And when we combine this with the fact that Obama is extremely popular
according to opinion polls, with 73 percent saying that he "cares about
people like me," meaning that three quarters of Americans feel that
this manifest anti-American president represents people like them, I
frankly find it hard to get a handle on the situation.
I too am overwhelmed by the events unfolding in our country. And I agree with the further comments at that Auster post and the Tea Party guests on last week's Glenn Beck show that our country has gone so far off the tracks that a McCain presidency would've only been incrementally less bad.
I'm frankly battered by the idea that there seem to be so many regular Americans out there who think like I do and want the kind of country I want...and none of them are in Washington.
And all that keeps running through my head is "When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people
to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another"...
I was just thinking this very same thought this morning when I was listening to a radio talk show host discussing how the unions had been placed in front of Chrysler's secured creditors. Taking action that flies in the face of the rule of law makes me sick. And, I tire of hearing people say things like, "Well BushCo tapped phones." Uh, guess they missed the memo that the NSA was working OVERTIME for the new administration and without even so much as the parameters of the previous administration. Whatever.
All I know is that if you invest & you the rules of the game change when the going gets tough, that is a sorry state of affairs for which someone ought to be ashamed. But, 'shame' is not something I feel was a part of the new President's upbringing, so good luck with that. I think he could have just called his one book "Audacity" and it would have been a more accurate descriptor of him.
Posted by: Guard Wife at May 07, 2009 02:11 PM (qk9Ip)
That Auster post sums up how I'm feeling, too - my issues blog has been gathering cobwebs b/c I just can't keep up. I have a house to run, commitments to meet, and other "real life" things, let alone picking apart (for the umpteenth time) why what's going on right now is wrong (and preaching to the choir while I'm doing it).
It's frustrating, b/c I feel like I should be speaking up more often, but I don't have the time or the mental capacity to deal with everything right now.
I started thinking it might be easier to blog about what Obama does that I *do* agree with, LOL...
I'm not up for a "divorce" yet, but I'm getting there. Irreconcilable differences and lies and theft and all...
Posted by: kannie at May 07, 2009 02:30 PM (S6srO)
I love the divorce post. Read that a week or so after the election - and heard from a few that's exactly how they are feeling too.
I'm especially tired and ready for a divorce because everytime I bring up a logical complaint - ie, quit freakin' spending our money like it's a shopping spree - all the liberals come out of the wood work painting my view as an extremist (WTF? because I want the govt. to exercise some spending control for which they have NEVER once done). And then they have the audactiy (that they probably learned from their cult leader) to tell me I don't have a right to complain because I'm not giving the guy "fair shake."
This coming from the group that in 2006 nearly 60% of them out right said they wanted Bush to fail. All the hypocrisy is giving me a maaaaaaaaahjah, mahjah headache.
Dude, I totally had to crack up that I objected to frivolous government spending and your buddy accused me of being anti-Sesame Street. Wow. Of all the stupid government spending, he picked the "meanest" thing to latch on to and accuse me of. But it's for the children! Evil Republicans don't want children to learn their ABCs!
You are a better woman than I for trying to argue back against that nonsense.
Posted by: Sarah at May 08, 2009 04:30 PM (TWet1)
Republicans don't want Omerican children to learn the letter "O," the symbOl of our salvatiOn. They don't want children to read the truth as written by al-Gore, Mike al-Moor, Noam Chomsky, and Bill Ayers. They just want an illiterate populace addicted to Faux "News." They'll achieve that goal in two easy steps. First abolish Sesame Street, then abolish the public schools. Just imagine millions of poor kids wandering the streets without free education, lunches, or health care while only the rich kids go to private schools where they are indocrinated in creationism and Social Darwinism. Mesmerized by Faux TV programming, this deprived generation will be exploited by the corporations which will never pay them minimum wage - and never pay the government a cent in taxes.
Is that what you want for The Childrenâ„¢?
Don't let it happen. Don't let these John Galt wannabes destroy Omerica and then divorce themselves from the W-reckage. They must stay. They must serve.
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Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality. --President John F. Kennedy--
War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. --General Patton--
We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over. --Full Metal Jacket--
Those who threaten us and kill innocents around the world do not need to be treated more sensitively. They need to be destroyed. --Dick Cheney--
The Flag has to come first if freedom is to survive. --Col Steven Arrington--
The purpose of diplomacy isn't to make us feel good about Eurocentric diplomatic skills, and having countries from the axis of chocolate tie our shoelaces together does nothing to advance our infantry. --Sir George--
I just don't care about the criticism I receive every day, because I know the cause I defend is right. --Oriol--
It's days like this when we're reminded that freedom isn't free. --Chaplain Jacob--
Bumper stickers aren't going to accomplish some of the missions this country is going to face. --David Smith--
The success of multilateralism is measured not merely by following a process, but by achieving results. --President Bush--
Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life.
First, go buy a six pack and swig it all down. Then, watch Ace Ventura. And after that, buy a Hard Rock Cafe shirt and come talk to me. You really need to lighten up, man.
You've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting --General Curtis Lemay--
If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained -- we must fight! --Patrick Henry--
America has never been united by blood or birth or soil. We are bound by ideals that move us beyond our backgrounds, lift us above our interests and teach us what it means to be citizens. Every child must be taught these principles. Every citizen must uphold them. And every immigrant, by embracing these ideals, makes our country more, not less, American. --President George W. Bush--
are usually just cheerleading sessions, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing but a soothing reduction in blood pressure brought about by the narcotic high of being agreed with. --Bill Whittle
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
--John Stuart Mill--
We are determined that before the sun sets on this terrible struggle, our flag will be recognized throughout the world as a symbol of freedom on the one hand and of overwhelming force on the other. --General George Marshall--
We can continue to try and clean up the gutters all over the world and spend all of our resources looking at just the dirty spots and trying to make them clean. Or we can lift our eyes up and look into the skies and move forward in an evolutionary way.
America is the greatest, freest and most decent society in existence. It is an oasis of goodness in a desert of cynicism and barbarism. This country, once an experiment unique in the world, is now the last best hope for the world.
Recent anti-Israel protests remind us again of our era's peculiar alliance: the most violent, intolerant, militantly religious movement in modern times has the peace movement on its side. --James Lileks--
As a wise man once said: we will pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
Unless the price is too high, the burden too great, the hardship too hard, the friend acts disproportionately, and the foe fights back. In which case, we need a timetable.
I am not willing to kill a man so that he will agree with my faith, but I am prepared to kill a man so that he cannot force my compatriots to submit to his.
You can say what you want about President Bush; but the truth is that he can take a punch. The man has taken a swift kick in the crotch for breakfast every day for 6 years and he keeps getting up with a smile in his heart and a sense of swift determination to see the job through to the best of his abilties.
In a perfect world, We'd live in peace and love and harmony with each oither and the world, but then, in a perfect world, Yoko would have taken the bullet.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. --Ronald Reagan--
America is rather like life. You can usually find in it what you look for. It will probably be interesting, and it is sure to be large. --E.M. Forster--
Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. --Mark Twain--
The Enlightenment was followed by the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars, which touched every European state, sparked vicious guerrilla conflicts across the Continent and killed millions. Then, things really turned ugly after the invention of soccer. --Iowahawk--
Every time I meet an Iraqi Army Soldier or Policeman that I haven't met before, I shake his hand and thank him for his service. Many times I am thanked for being here and helping his country. I always tell them that free people help each other and that those that truly value freedom help those seeking it no matter the cost. --Jack Army--
Right, left - the terms are useless nowadays anyway. There are statists, and there are individualists. There are pessimists, and optimists. There are people who look backwards and trust in the West, and those who look forward and trust in The World. Those are the continuums that seem to matter the most right now. --Lileks--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
A man or a nation is not placed upon this earth to do merely what is pleasant and what is profitable. It is often called upon to carry out what is both unpleasant and unprofitable, but if it is obviously right it is mere shirking not to undertake it. --Arthur Conan Doyle--
A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself. --John Stuart Mill--
After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." --Dave Grossman--
At heart Iâ€™m a cowboy; my attitude is if theyâ€™re not going to stand up and fight for what they believe in then they can go pound sand. --Bill Whittle--
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. --Alexander Tyler--
By that time a village half-wit could see what generations of professors had pretended not to notice. --Atlas Shrugged--
I kept asking Clarence why our world seemed to be collapsing and everything seemed so shitty. And he'd say, "That's the way it goes, but don't forget, it goes the other way too." --Alabama Worley--
So Bush is history, and we have a new president who promises to heal the planet, and yet the jihadists donâ€™t seem to have got the Obama message that there are no enemies, just friends we havenâ€™t yet held talks without preconditions with.
"I had started alone in this journey called life, people started
gathering up on the way, and the caravan got bigger everyday." --Urdu couplet
The book and the sword are the two things that control the world. We either gonna control them through knowledge and influence their minds, or we gonna bring the sword and take their heads off. --RZA--
It's a daily game of public Frogger, hopping frantically to avoid being crushed under the weight of your own narcissism, banality, and plain old stupidity. --Mary Katharine Ham--
There are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms
of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. --James Madison--
It is in the heat of emotion that good people must remember to stand on principle. --Larry Elder--
Please show this to the president and ask him to remember the wishes of the forgotten man, that is, the one who dared to vote against him. We expect to be tramped on but we do wish the stepping would be a little less hard. --from a letter to Eleanor Roosevelt--
The world economy depends every day on some engineer, farmer, architect, radiator shop owner, truck driver or plumber getting up at 5AM, going to work, toiling hard, and producing real wealth so that an array of bureaucrats, regulators, and redistributors can manage the proper allotment of much of the natural largess produced. --VDH--
Parents are often so busy with the physical rearing of children that they miss the glory of parenthood, just as the grandeur of the trees is lost when raking leaves. --Marcelene Cox--