September 26, 2005
HEH
The Stars and Stripes got some
good quotes from D.C. this weekend:
Jamie Santoro, a 40-year-old editor with a book company in Chicago, rode 18 hours with 40 friends to participate.
“I came because I think war is wrong in every circumstance,” she said. What about in fighting someone such as Hitler? “War is always wrong.”
Arianette Gosnell, 18, a student at Lorain County Community College in Ohio, drove out with her friends.
She was handing out flyers that read “RESIST OR DIE! NO SCHOOL ON NOV. 2!”
Asked what the group hoped to accomplish by not going to class for a day, she said, “Actually, I just got involved today, so I don’t know.”
Heh.
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Most anti-war protestors could say something about why they were at the protest. So wasn't it journalistically dishonest of S&S to find and quote one who couldn't?
Posted by: Pericles at September 26, 2005 07:20 AM (EpPuP)
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The very concept of an anti-war protest is intellectually dishonest, since almost everyone is against war except in the extreme. I know of no pro-war soldiers. The anti-warist is saying nothing is worth fighting for or that the insult was not personal enough for him to be included.
Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at September 26, 2005 01:27 PM (wDJE+)
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What is dishonest about saying that one particulcar war is not worth fighting? I'm not someone who would be protesting the war NOW, because I don't think we should pull out at this point. I probably should have protested during the march up to the war, because I was (and still am) convinced this this particular war was a mistake---just as I'm convinced that other wars, including the one on Afghanistan, were the right thing to do.
Posted by: Pericles at September 26, 2005 03:51 PM (EpPuP)
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While it would take a lot of demographic work to substantiate with any data, one has to wonder if say those particluar nitwits were like black specks of sand carefully picked out of a large beach of mostly white sand to prove that the beach was really black...
Walter, I don't get your point. Where do you come up with the idea that 'almost everyone is against war except in the extreme?' What percentage is 'almost everyone? What data would ytou use to substantiate that? And why is it dishonest to march in a protest against the goverment doing something that 'amost everyone' doesn't approve of? It seems to me that if almost everyone disapproves of a government action that doesn't represent we the people, a protest is vey much in order in a democratic country.
Posted by: VOT at September 26, 2005 11:48 PM (Z1Ipc)
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I think Walter has a point...when you boil everything down, if the country could be back in a relatively peaceful state...even a Cold War would be welcome, people would generally be happier. War is indeed a very ugly thing, but there are times when it becomes necessary.
We live on this planet together with over 6 billion people. When it looks like one group or organization might be fiddling around with stuff that might kill the rest of us, I think something has to be done.
Technology and freedom of travel between countries brought us the events of 9/11/2001. Operation Enduring Freedom set out to expel Al Qaeda from their hideouts in Afghanistan and return the country back to the people. Operation Iraqi Freedom was kicked off to release Iraq from the stranglehold of a nutjob evil dictator, look for WMDs that damned near everyone said would be found, and to finally try to spark a democratic society within the Middle East. I'm sorry, sounds like there are some pretty good reasons to go to war at this point.
As to what not going to school on 2 November will prove...that people being handed an education on a silver platter will still spit on it and disrespect it by willingly not attending!
In my Draconian world...any child that missed school without a helluva a good reason would be suspended or expelled. I don't invest in failure. Anyone that would turn their nose up at education deserves to suffer the consequences of not having one.
Wow!
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
MajorDad1984
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September 25, 2005
LIBRARY
I swear I could've written
this blog entry about the library. I volunteered there as a kid and longed for the day when I had logged enough time to be able to stamp the due date cards. Mostly I just shelved the children's books, but it wasn't a bad gig for a ten year old. And I have asked my husband about the library vs. Napster thing too.
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My daughter visits the school library every Monday and comes home with a new book. Last week she said, "Mom, what's this pocket in the back for?"
I used to love putting the cards back in the pockets and helping file the new cards as they came in.
I never did get to wield the stamper though.
Posted by: karen at October 03, 2005 01:29 PM (uKeaa)
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September 23, 2005
OUTRAGE
You're not alone, Charles. I too am outraged.
Hamas To Convert Synagogue to Weapons Museum
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That is really vile, the Palestinians who could some up with that are seriously demented. A synagogue is not longer considered a holy place once the Torah has been removed, but all the same, they clearly were trying for a symbolic act of sheer hate, and that is despicable.
Do not click this link at work. Do not click this link if you have a weak stomach.
Here's another seriously disgusting and outrageous site. It's a site with a collection of photos soldiers have taken of Iraqis they have killed, often with their heads blown off. The most disgusting part is the comments and attitudes there, things like a man lying in a pool of blood and guts has the soldier comment, "What every Iraqi should look like," or images of soldiers smiling and giving the thumbs up while standing over the body of a charred dead child.
Certainly the many idiots who are posting those photos do not represent the mainstream of soldiers, but they do represent some of them, and they are a serious disgrace to their uniforms and to our country.
Some of the pundits on the right keep saying that the war in Iraq is about fighting terror, and that being against the war is supporting terrorism. Those on the left keep saying that the war is creating more terrorist recruitment, and is counterproductive to the war on terror. I have to say that these idiots have done more to help the cause of terrorists than anything anyone on the left has ever done. Between this and Abu Ghraib, where the Administration is arguing that relasing more photos of the torture there would inflame the Muslim world and drive untold numbers to join al-Qaeda, it's pretty clear that our presence Iraq is helping the terrorist cause far more than it is hurting.
Posted by: VOT at September 27, 2005 12:23 AM (Z1Ipc)
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September 20, 2005
GASP
Hey, Deskmerc -- did you see this? Did your heart skip a beat like mine did?
Are we really going
back to the moon?
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I can't even pretend to not be excited about that. They're even talking about six months in lunar orbit. SIX MONTHS!
"I call this Earth orbit rendevous."
Von Braun was a smart guy after all, huh?
Posted by: Jason at September 21, 2005 10:56 AM (565iX)
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As much as I loved the space program as a kid...and standing out in my yard on clear nights when I lived on the Space Coast watching launches in the early 90s...I have some sense of wonder if this is the right time to spend the kind of money we're talking about spending to make this so.
Maybe this is the fiscal conservative in me that says that we've got quite a bit on our plates here on Earth to be too concerned about gallavanting into space to visit a place we've been before. I understand that the intent is to establish a permanent base on the moon as a jump off point for places deeper in the solar system, but for crying out loud, we've got a war raging on this planet (against radical Islam), another war on poverty in this country (which we'd win if we just get people to act responsibly) and the challenge of turning back our clock to a time where our country was fiscally responsible enough not to spend more than it took in.
Yes, a return to space is an exciting idea...but is it time to put it into action at this point?
See you on the high ground!
MajorDad1984
P.S. For my critics, this should be proof enough that I'm man enough to think for myself. Do I love G.W. Bush being our president? Absolutely! Do I see him starting to do things that I vehemently disagree with? Absolutely. That's what makes this country great...well, just one of them actually.
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September 15, 2005
MAN
This is too touching for words:
Iraqi Soldiers Donate to Katrina Victims.
(via Malkin)
And this article on the "bad working conditions" at Wal-Mart reads like a Scrappleface entry. What a joke.
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sarah you're post about wal-mart is bunk period.unions in this country built the middle class.i'm proud to be a union member and a veteran.don't buy the right-wing hype.fox news and bush 43 are full of shit.they look at people like you and me to take out their trash and clean their f****n house.take your head out of the sand.
Posted by: tommy at September 15, 2005 08:39 AM (NMK3S)
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I don't fault Wal-Mart (though I won't shop there) as much as I fault the U.S. Congress. $5.15/hour (same since 1997) equates to a yearly 2000-hour $10,300 pre-tax. Based on conversion tables (oregonstate.edu) from 1997 to 2004 dollars, that's a 15% pay-cut between 1997 and 2004.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_minimum_wages
Posted by: Curtis at September 15, 2005 09:37 AM (Yjaw+)
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I think your two previous posters missed he point. It's about unions - not WalMart. Specifically the hypocrasy of some of the union officials. Many union officials are more concerned with justifying thier own pay and perks than with the rank and file. If you're not a dues paying memeber, they won't give you the time of day. But, if you are especially UAW members you don't even necessarily have to do your assigned job.
Posted by: Pamela at September 15, 2005 01:23 PM (W5Prw)
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S.
Sorry about that last post. I've probably opened a real can of worms. We'll both get flamed by the rabid union sympathizers out there. Nobody can be nastier than a union member who thinks they're being criticized.
Please let me say that I know the unions have done some good things. But, it has become just another overblown bureaucracy. There really needs to be some common sense applied. BTW, I've been associated with the UAW for 11 years now.
P.
Posted by: Pamela at September 15, 2005 01:29 PM (W5Prw)
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Associated with the UAW for 11 years? Well, then, Pamela, you are a candidate to appear at the next State of the Union address, trotted out as an example of a long-time union supporter who has been mistreated by the labor movement and now agrees with the nutcase right wing that anyone with a job is lucky to have one, and that wages and working conditions are properly to be determined by the upper class. What, you don't agree? Of course not, but you must remember that our country is being taken over by wealthy right-wingers, they have an agenda and they don't care much about what you really think, as long as they can use your well-meaning criticism to "prove" their points. There's a time to debate, and a time to close ranks and fight for fairness and dignity.
Posted by: Larry Jones at September 15, 2005 02:31 PM (HW6sw)
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September 08, 2005
LINKS
Interesting discussion on
subtle racism at Annika's
Interesting article on
"the story that no one is reporting" about Katrina
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"Interesting article on "the story that no one is reporting" about Katrina"
and no one will ever report on it....if a white reporter tried there would be mass cries of racism and if a black reporter tried he/she would be dismissed as an "Uncle Tom/Aunt Jemima" type. It's always said to be about race. When libs run out of logic they call you a racist...end of discussion.
P.
Posted by: Pamela at September 09, 2005 04:20 PM (tmtTJ)
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PHOTOS
Wanna see some photos of white people cackling and rubbing their hands together as black people drown in New Orleans? Sorry, I don't have any. All I've got are these
photos of human beings helping each other.
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