TOP AND BOTTOM COALITION
An interesting election result, via Powerline:
Obama and the Democrats have assembled a "top and bottom coalition." They carried voters with incomes above $200,000, narrowly, and won decisively among those with incomes under $50,000. Middle-income voters split evenly. I find this interesting in the context of Obama's and Biden's constant invocation of the "middle class" in their campaign speeches. Maybe they knew this was the one group they were in danger of not carrying, or maybe they think it helps to talk about the "middle class" even if you're really appealing to upper or lower income voters.
I wish I had read this yesterday; I might've piped up at the Chinese take-out. Heh.
Overheard tonight at the Chinese take-out: "I voted for Obama. I don't make more than $250,000, so I figured what the hell. It don't affect me none."
And that is why I hate my party. We do a terrible job of explaining how it does indeed affect everyone, even a schlub in line at the take-out. And especially the Chinese lady who owns the chain of take-outs, who says she also voted for Obama.
Â“And that is why I hate my party. We do a terrible job of explaining how it does indeed affect everyoneÂ”
I disagree slightly; people are responsible to educate themselves about the issues.
Though you are correct, for whatever reason Republicans do not get the word out very well. To a fault they/we expect people to actually act like adults and know the issues.
Time to spoon feed in 2012.
Posted by: tim at November 10, 2008 10:52 AM (nno0f)
Just imagine the squawking we would've heard if Bush had appointed a man who went slasher on a table at a political dinner. Or did even one of the Godfather-esque things in that article. Sigh.
Sarah,I wish I understood why liberals are so in love with their fantasy that they alone are the arbiters of peace and unity. That somehow the national dialog will be raised and genteel discourse will be attained.
GIVE ME A BREAK.
They have not shown President Bush one iota of civility. It's been Chimpy this or McChokey that.
In my town the signs stolen were McCain/Palin,the cars keyed had GOP candidate bumperstickers. NOT
a thing was done to Kerry supporters in 2004 or
Obama supporters this time around. AMAZING to me
how intolerant of other people's views they are.
I could go on and on..but I won't. I know I am
preaching to the choir.
I just wish I could understand them. It's as if
their default mode is Toddler Throwing A Tantrum.
Posted by: MaryIndiana at November 08, 2008 08:29 AM (SRyvm)
Yeah. I recently watched a video of Evan Sayet speaking at the Heritage Foundation about the "Modern Day Liberal" (look it up on YouTube: Heritage Foundation Evan Sayet). It's about 47 minutes long, but it's GOOD, and enlightening. I can't tell what's more frightening: What he's saying, or how he's saying it. Grave comedians tug at my heart strings.
Have you been back to my exciting comment thread? My liberal friend has recently accused me of being a prejudiced, dishonest, right-wing authoritarian ignoramus because I said I was going to vote Republican in 2012. Awesome.
I should copy and paste the whole thing into a blog post, but I think I'll just refer back to it later, with my own version of that insulting behavioral model . . . >
Posted by: Deltasierra at November 08, 2008 01:24 PM (jrF2G)
Thanks Kevin--you have illustrated my point
beautifully. Toddler Tantrum as default mode.
Posted by: MaryIndiana at November 09, 2008 03:20 AM (SRyvm)
When you realize that his brother Ari Emanual is the inspiration behind Entourage's Ari Gold everything become quite clear. You know, I have to say that although I don't share his ideals, I really have to admire the guy's determination and doggedness to his ideals. Looks like Karl Rove has nothing on this guy...
THE YOUTH VOTE
Ha. When I read this, I couldn't help but think of that Winston Churchill quote: Â“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart; if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.Â”
Exit polls show 66 percent of voters ages 18 to 29 preferred Obama and 32 percent preferred McMain. The gap closed among those ages 30 to 44 who preferred Obama 52 percent to McCainÂ’s 46 percent. Among those ages 45 to 64, the vote was fairly evenly split between the candidates. Fifty three percent of voters 65 and older leaned toward McCain, compared to 45 percent who supported Obama.
I remember the moment of wonder a few months ago when I realized I am older than The Youth Vote. Three cheers for growing up!
Incidentally, it may be argued that I never had a heart, even though I have voted for a Democrat or two.
LOL! Yeah, I think we could get our own "heartless" support group going... it's just amazing (and ironic), though, how deeply we *do* feel the things that motivate us - it's just principles over programs!
Posted by: kannie at November 06, 2008 06:45 AM (iT8dn)
I'm still technically part of the "youth" vote; I turned 18 shortly after Bush was elected the first time, and while I had some slightly leftward leanings for a couple of years (due mostly to college friends and knowing nothing about politics myself), I had figured out by the 2004 election that I was really a conservative (albeit a libertarian-conservative) in my principles. I guess I'm "heartless", too.
Posted by: Leofwende at November 06, 2008 08:06 AM (jAos7)
Posted by: Amritas at November 06, 2008 08:31 AM (+nV09)
Yeah, no shit. Face it sarah, you got old. We don't want your vote.
Posted by: Will at November 06, 2008 08:40 AM (/Wwv3)
Bwahahaha. Nice, Will.
I know you've been reading long enough to know that "old" is not an insult to me.
Posted by: Sarah at November 06, 2008 08:46 AM (TWet1)
I've noticed that Will has posted something vulgar, inflammatory, and lacking any intelligent content in every one of your posts today, Sarah.
This must mean that what you've written is true! Kos-kids can't handle the truth. They turn into third graders. And foam at the mouth a little.
Don't they make Ritalin for that?
Posted by: Deltasierra at November 06, 2008 11:30 AM (YFIXC)
The quote is usually attributed to Churchill, but I think I saw it in something earlier by Clemenceau.
Thing is, I'm afraid many of today's "progressives" are lacking in *both* heart and brain. People with hearts wouldn't be so untroubled at the prospect of abandoning the people of Iraq to mass murder, or condemning even more generations to dysfunctional public schools, or destroying the dreams of small businessmen.
Posted by: david foster at November 06, 2008 11:59 AM (ke+yX)
My dad took me to visit the Reagan Library when I was 14. I don't think I ever entertained liberal ideas seriously...maybe I've never had a heart.
Posted by: Nicole at November 06, 2008 01:02 PM (xPxyx)
I heard on the radio today that the percentage of 'youth' who voted this year was lower than in 2004.
I found that interesting given all the hype surrounding it this go 'round.
Posted by: Guard Wife at November 06, 2008 03:24 PM (eb8pN)
You know, this is just absurd: Oprah celebrates that she saw drug addicts voting for Obama. Hahahha, oh it's a big funny joke, Obama won because the dregs of society stumbled across the street from rehab to vote. Hooray for Obama! Jubilant Junkies Say Yes We Can!
To paraphrase John McCain, I'd rather lose an election than champion the crackhead vote.
What yaÂ’ trying to say Sarah, that drug addicts donÂ’t know the issues? IÂ’m sure they know just as much as the average Obama voter
Â“When Obama is elected, I wonÂ’t have to worry about having enough money to buy my heroin, to get a new neddleÂ…Â”
Posted by: tim at November 06, 2008 04:33 AM (nno0f)
I don't find it so disturbing that drug addicts vote, but what I find disturbing was how Oprah said: "Yeah, we'll take the drug addicts' vote", in such a way that you could see she had semi-distain for drug addicts, but could overlook that, because, hey, they were voting for Obama!
I mean, if she had said: "I think that this is an amazing election, because it motivated everyone to come out and vote, even people in rehab." But no, she called them drug addicts, and said "we'll take their vote", just like you could imagine: well, we will take your money, and we don't care where it's coming from.
I am amazed that you had the stomach to watch her.
I just haven't been able to deal with her...
Posted by: MaryIndiana at November 06, 2008 06:08 AM (SRyvm)
LOL, CaliValleyGirl! "Sure, we'll take your vote," indeed - Hubby was (jokingly but seriously) saying the same thing last night as you pointed out about "sure, we'll take your income..." (not that we'll have a choice... it'll just make me sick every time we get a federal benefit or a tax refund... it could've come from someone I like! Or it could've come from Oprah ;-) )
The irony of celebrity politics...
Posted by: kannie at November 06, 2008 06:42 AM (iT8dn)
Posted by: Will at November 06, 2008 08:39 AM (/Wwv3)
Yeah I saw that on TV. It reminded me of what she referred to as her "Crash" moment when Hermes wouldn't let her come shop for a $12,000 purse after hours because they were, you know, closed and all.
Obama won because of her money though.
Posted by: mare at November 06, 2008 11:17 AM (APbbU)
Oh, rest assured, the economic guru Chris Cuomo on GMA said this morning one had NOTHING to do with the other...without offering any kind of grounding for his statement.
Usually, there is a significant bounce in the market when a 'peaceful passage of power' is ensured by an intact election.
I think it's goofy that someone would opine the whole $250,000, no wait $150,000, oh, I mean $100,000 tax crap & income redistribution has NO impact on the market...at all.
Posted by: Guard Wife at November 06, 2008 03:42 AM (eb8pN)
Worst post-election percentage loss ever, though not by a ton: data
Posted by: Leofwende at November 06, 2008 07:53 AM (jAos7)
Oh, I just realized...guess who's in second place for worst percentage loss? FDR. Yep. Guess what we have to look forward to, if that's any sort of prediction...
Posted by: Leofwende at November 06, 2008 07:56 AM (jAos7)
You guys are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable. I can't explain it to you. Just trust me. You are all bat-shit crazy.
Posted by: WIll at November 06, 2008 08:38 AM (/Wwv3)
What is so different about it being down the day after an election than the months before it? C'mon people get some common sense.
Posted by: Ray at November 06, 2008 09:09 AM (l/CzG)
WIll: Speculation, research, and a little satire does not require a Kos-worthy flip out.
Cool your jets.
Posted by: Deltasierra at November 06, 2008 11:13 AM (YFIXC)
Wow, you gals are way more patient with this Will person than I would be. I would be banning him from my comments section right about now.
Posted by: Leofwende at November 06, 2008 01:16 PM (jAos7)
Leofwende: I feed trolls.
It's a bad habit of mine . . .
Besides, they're funny! We can point and laugh!
Posted by: Deltasierra at November 06, 2008 03:23 PM (YFIXC)
Gosh, namecalling with the "F" word and EVERYTHING...how exciting. Can't wait to see what you can come up with next...I'm already uber impressed so far today.
And, as far as questioning what is different about the stock market being down the day after the election and the significance of that compared to it being down months ago...um, it's because the day after the election is NOW and months ago is, well, NOT.
Posted by: Guard Wife at November 06, 2008 03:28 PM (eb8pN)
Leofwende -- Will has been commenting here for years. He bemuses me.
Posted by: Sarah at November 06, 2008 03:29 PM (TWet1)
Hard choices and challenges follow triumph
Obama ran on platform of change Â— now he must spell out exactly how
I think it's funny, because what can we do now but laugh? My husband doesn't find the humor in it though.
That second sentence...holy crap...NOW?
why not the last f**king 6 months
I will be very interested to hear the how.
My brother called earlier and was like, "Let me get this straight: You get higher tax rates if you make more than $250,000 but tax cuts at below $200,000, so what happens to the people in between?" And I laughed and said "At one point, Biden said something about $150,000. I have no idea what they're promising." Neither does anyone else. It's all subject to Change™.
I just watched Howard Dean tell Chris Matthews that they didn't make any promises so they can't break them. They just talked about how they would like things to be.
I think Arnold had it exactly right that our new CiC could use some meat on his ideas. I really don't care about his calf muscles.
It will be interesting.
Posted by: wifeunit at November 05, 2008 12:46 PM (J+xCo)
* I've had two separate people who have told me that their first reaction to these election results was to buy more guns. Speaking of which, I am toying with the idea of buying a semi-automatic shotgun myself.
When people start thinking that it's much more likely that they're going to need a gun to protect themselves as a result of your election, I think it's a pretty strong vote of "no-confidence" in your leadership abilities.
Have heard the same thing. An impending Obama presidency was the impetus for me to buy the gun I did get, and I figure we will probably buy more.
Posted by: HomefrontSix at November 05, 2008 08:48 AM (4Es1w)
I'm clinging to religion today and thought about a gun. This is one time I sure do hope that we are proven wrong on the gut feelings we have.
When do you think my check will come?
Posted by: Susan at November 05, 2008 08:54 AM (4aKG6)
Heh... there's a gun show around here this weekend... Hubby says we don't need another one, but I disagree, LOL
Posted by: kannie at November 05, 2008 10:12 AM (iT8dn)
We definitely spent our weekend at the gun show out here last weekend (Same place as Kannie). There's another one in 2 weeks on the north end, and then another mid-December back where this weekend's was. We definitely added to our rather small collection, and made sure to buy ammo, which is twice the cost it was a year ago, and is sure to go up.
I think eventually (if it's still possible down the road), we'd like to expand our collection, but for now I'm satisfied. Except for ammo. Never hurts to have more ammo.
Posted by: Leofwende at November 05, 2008 11:12 AM (jAos7)
Agreed Â– on all counts.
I have never felt a greater need to arm my family physically. We've been God-touched to have no more than one act of war on our soil by foreign nationals in over fifty years. It's sheer idiocy to believe we won't have another one.
In the words of Metallica (from "Don't Tread on Me"): "To secure peace is to prepare for war."
Hmm . . . I think I'll post the full lyrics of that song on my blog. Metallica might have sold out a few times in the recent past, but that album lives on as one of my very favorites.
And that song is SO PERFECT, especially for the military.
Posted by: Deltasierra at November 06, 2008 07:05 AM (/jEAA)
I keep having a new feeling every 30 minutes, which means a new blog post. I just re-watched McCain's original campaign ad, and I started to get choked up. When he said, "I owe America more than she has ever owed me," I just got this catch in my heart for him. He deserved to become President, far more than Obama did. I think he sought the office for all the right reasons. I feel sorry for him, and I feel disappointed that 52% of American voters didn't see what seems blatantly obvious to me.
Sarah, IÂ’m not sure IÂ’ve ever agreed with you more.
As much as I personally feel bad about the election, I feel horrible for Sen. McCain. He absolutely deserved it over someone the likes of Obama.
And IÂ’m also disappointed that I wonÂ’t be able to gaze at the lovely Cindy as our first lady.
Posted by: tim at November 05, 2008 09:17 AM (nno0f)
As much as I hoped and prayed for a McCain win I never feel that someone deserves to be president. If that were the case Hillary would have had her Democratic nomination. And yes, he has done much to EARN our trust in him to be president and I feel horrible for him, too. I do think he just was not animated enough most of the time and that he tried to be too much of a gentleman to be respected. And in spite of all I think the election turned on the Hate Bush vote, not even the financial stuff so there was never really much hope for a Republican.
Posted by: Ruth H at November 05, 2008 01:42 PM (Y4oAO)
Every blog post I've read today by every blogger I respect has been a variation on this theme:
North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and associated problems in Pakistan, resurgent Russian militarism... all these are problems too serious to take family beliefs outside the election. Obama's our President now, and is going to need the backing of the public to handle these problems. I see the absolute idiocy some people had regarding Bush and Afghanistan, and after that Iraq, and if things blow up in Obama's face, I don't plan on being "that guy" reveling in glee over problems affecting the military and therefore the Presidency. There's a step beyond "military" and "presidency" and that's "country", and regardless of who I voted for, I don't want the country to be harmed or diminished just because it'll demonstrate the President's ineffectualness. So I wish him well, because the consequences of mishandling any of the above problems are enormous, and any "I told you so's" are going to be faint consolations if they are mishandled. I honestly wish Obama well. Because that means I'm wishing America well.
That's the embodiment of McCain's campaign slogan: Country First.
I am proud of my side today. We are nervous and disappointed, but we are not shrill, we are not shrieking, and we are not rude. Hell, if Chuck Z can be civil and congratulatory towards Obama, then my side is classy.
And I am proud of us, proud to be on a gracious losing side.
"I am proud of my side today. We are nervous and disappointed, but we are not shrill, we are not shrieking, and we are not rude."
And that's the difference between 'us' and 'them'.
Posted by: tim at November 05, 2008 07:04 AM (nno0f)
Amen! That's a good reminder. I'm trying very hard to be gracious, and to be respectful of the office. I'm afraid of what the future has to offer, but it's also kind of exciting, because now I have a Big Fat Reason to learn more about my country and its history (and world history, for that matter), and work on being a more responsible adult. I still have my freedoms Â– for a little while longer, at least Â– and I plan to defend them to the hilt.
Posted by: Deltasierra at November 06, 2008 06:54 AM (/jEAA)
I'M GOING TO BED
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray...
I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW DEMOCRAT OVERLORD
From The Corner:
The Role of Race: It Was Important [Byron York]
The exit polls suggest that race was a factor in a lot of voters' decisions Â— and that, on balance, it worked to Barack Obama's advantage. In Ohio, for example, six percent of voters said that race was the most important factor in their decision. Among them, Obama won 59-40. Another 13 percent said race was an important factor in their vote, and Obama won among them, 52-46. So nearly one in five voters said race was an important part of their decision, and more of them voted for Obama than McCain.
Beyond that, eight percent said race was a "minor factor" in their decision Â— and they went for McCain, 56-44. Finally, 71 percent said race played no role at all in their decision Â— and Obama won among them, 54-45.
I don't want to hear anything about racism anymore. It's a dead issue in the US now. Thank heavens.
I thought I was going to spend the night drinking away my worries. Instead I am hopped up on cold meds. My head is foggy, I'm breathing through my mouth, and I feel like I've been put through the wringer.
And I don't understand why they call states for a certain candidate when only 12% of the precincts have reported. That makes no sense to me.
Here's my point: They called NC for Obama with only a handful of precincts reporting. Right now, with 84% reporting, McCain is winning by 10,000 votes. Ridiculous that they called it so early and potentially called it wrong.
Who knows when this thing will be over; I have doubts it will be tonight. Since the end is being pushed back, you may still have time to read this absolutely fascinating, really long post called Toast (via Amritas).
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As Americans went to the polls Tuesday to chose the next president, Gen. David Petraeus, the U.S. commander in charge of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, said that whatever the outcome, the U.S. will continue its commitment to battling Al Qaeda.
"Both candidates have been clear about the priority they place [on the war on terror]. So there is truly bipartisan support for [what] I think can be described as a sustained and substantial commitment to Pakistan and Afghanistan," Petraeus told FOX News.
I have heard many times recently, to include this morning, that maybe my husband won't have to deploy next year if Obama is elected. I keep explaining to people that 1) my husband's job deploys regardless of world events and 2) Obama has never said that he is bringing the troops home, only that he will shift them from Iraq to Afghanistan. I don't think any military family should get too excited about an Obama win. I doubt it will mean more time in garrison for the troops.
I've been quick to point this out to people, too. People seem to think that I support Obama because it means Soldier Boy won't have to deploy anymore. Um.... no.
Then again, they are the same people who thought that the families got to go with their soldiers to Afghanistan, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Posted by: Sis B at November 04, 2008 01:21 PM (U76K6)
Yeah, Sis B and Sarah, me too. I feel the same when listening to that John Mayer song, I can't remember the title, where he talks about poor military families being without their fathers or mothers at Xmas because they are deployed to Iraq...and I shake my head. No matter what happens, military families will always be possibly separated from their families at Xmas, birthdays, Thanksgiving, etc. That is plain and simple the military way of life.
I made a flip comment on one of your posts about your husband being home all the time if O wins. I didn't turn on the "sarcasm" button, but, I certainly didn't mean it to be taken seriously. I thought it might make you laugh. Oh well, back to comedy 101...sigh.
Posted by: Pamela at November 04, 2008 01:47 PM (8ARiu)
Pamela -- No, I completely understood you were joking. I didn't mean you.
Posted by: Sarah at November 04, 2008 01:48 PM (TWet1)
P. S. My husband and I are both veterans, so, we know about the separations. It's tough and it's a regular part of the military life. But, I thank God regularly that we still have people who understand and are willing to put up the hardships.
Posted by: Pamela at November 04, 2008 01:53 PM (8ARiu)
I HAVE HOPEAnnika reposted this commercial. I had forgotten it, and I wish McCain had continued to run it throughout the campaign.
I don't normally listen to his show, but the other day I heard Sean Hannity say the most perfect thing on the radio. He began his program by saying (I loosely quote), "If you feel nervous, with knots in your stomach, that means that you are alive! Breathe deep and savor it. Let not your heart be troubled."
I can worry about politics today because I live in the greatest country in the world, where few of us have real worries. I have food, clothing, and my health...well, sort of. I came down with a nasty cold yesterday. My husband is safe, my family is fortunate, and my dog is one of the cutest on the planet. The worst thing happening in my life right now is that my presidential candidate might not win. That means my life is good.
I will fret today, and I'm totally doped up on DayQuil, but I will also think about the balls and urns, and hope that there are more red balls than we know about.
Because I have hope. Obama doesn't have a monopoly on it, you know.
I *NEVER* saw this one! Why, oh why, did this one not run on every network, 24/7?
Yeah, Sarah, tomorrow the sun will rise in the east, just as it did today. I just hope McCain rises with it...
Posted by: Jim Shawley at November 04, 2008 12:19 PM (kch4y)
I agree with your sentiment Sarah, but for those of us who know what a bad president, Jimmy Carter, meansÂ…(*heavy sigh*)Â…
HereÂ’s one example relevant to our present economic situation, Carter enacted the legislation that started the whole lending to low income families fiasco. Bad presidents can have lasting effectsÂ….to say nothing of the Supreme CourtÂ…thatÂ’s it, IÂ’m getting drunk tonight.
I still love this countryÂ… but wholly crap what are we in for? IÂ’m an atheist but even I may pray to (your) god if itÂ’s close.
Posted by: tim aka The Godless Heathen at November 04, 2008 12:52 PM (nno0f)
I think I'm heavily self-medicating with chocolate tonight, LOL... and I'm trying to AVOID the election coverage! I'm finally at peace with "the things I (probably) cannot change," and I'm trying to keep that feeling as long as I can. (You can see what a great job I'm doing, LOL!!!)
Posted by: kannie at November 04, 2008 04:45 PM (iT8dn)
There are problems that need to be addressed during each and every election season. Obviously, we want the person who can best address those problems and issues, but in this particular election, we have a huge disparity between two candidates. One has fought for America and for freedom, and sacrificed five years of his life for it living in a hell hole being tortured daily. He then dedicated the rest of his life to serving his country. There is no doubt that, in John McCainÂ’s heart, he truly loves the United States and would fight to his last breath to defend her. You can disagree with his policies Â— and I do disagree with some of them Â— but there is no doubting his allegiance and love for his country. With Barack Obama, heÂ’s led a largely privileged life, going to private schools and eventually Harvard. He got married, entered politics, and a mere 143 days after becoming a US Senator, became the first African-American to run for President on a major party ticket. Yet all he and his wife can do is criticize the United States, paint a picture of gloom and despair, complain about all he feels weÂ’ve done wrong, and smear Americans as racist if they donÂ’t support him. For GodÂ’s sake, the man said he wanted to Â“free usÂ” from the Â“restraintsÂ” of the Constitution, that it was a blind spot and a major flaw. ItÂ’s hard to tell if Obama loves his country or not, because thereÂ’s a vast difference between loving America for what she is and what she stands for, and loving America for what he thinks she could be if only he could change everything about her. ThatÂ’s not love of country.
I'm a wreck. I'm gonna be like Tweak from South Park all day tomorrow.
I missed early voting, so I still have to go stand in line on Tuesday. And it's a good thing I haven't voted yet, because I still have time to change my mind and vote for Obama. I had no idea that under his presidency I wouldn't have to pay for gas or my mortgage. How awesome life will be for the next four years.
WTF? I would ask where do they even FIND these people, but it's a stupid question...they are EVERYWHERE.
Posted by: Guard Wife at November 02, 2008 05:40 AM (eb8pN)
Oh PLEASE tell me that they will find this woman
in a year and see how she feels about her kooky
false messiah then.
She'll probably just blame it on evil Republicans.
Posted by: MaryIndiana at November 02, 2008 05:51 AM (SRyvm)
Back in the day many segregationist states had literacy tests for voters, it was outlawed by the courts, but.....
Posted by: Ruth H at November 02, 2008 07:20 AM (Y4oAO)
There's still hope that you can change!
I like how Peggy Joseph took her kid out of school early. Given the quality of e-duh-cation these days, it probably didn't make a difference.
She is wrong when she says she "won't have to work."
In the words of Michelle Obama,
"Barack Obama will require you to work."
Posted by: Amritas at November 02, 2008 07:32 AM (+/Ct7)
Sadly, these people ARE everywhere. And get used to them, because not only will we have to pay for OUR gas and mortgages, we'll get to pay for Peggy's too! I can't wait. She'll certainly do better things with my money than I ever could.
Posted by: TK at November 02, 2008 08:44 AM (dhjWA)
And the good news for you is: Obama will cut the military by 25% so your husband will be home with you every day. I'll be so glad when this is over it's beginning to make my head explode.
Posted by: Pamela at November 03, 2008 04:18 AM (vIuoe)
"Back in the day many segregationist states had literacy tests for voters, it was outlawed by the courts, but.....
Posted by Ruth H at November 2, 2008 12:20 PM"
Wow, this woman is really calling for the reinstatment of literacy tests for blacks in america?
And Sarah, you really left the comment up?
Posted by: Betty at November 10, 2008 02:25 AM (uvH8i)
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It's days like this when we're reminded that freedom isn't free. --Chaplain Jacob--
Bumper stickers aren't going to accomplish some of the missions this country is going to face. --David Smith--
The success of multilateralism is measured not merely by following a process, but by achieving results. --President Bush--
Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life.
First, go buy a six pack and swig it all down. Then, watch Ace Ventura. And after that, buy a Hard Rock Cafe shirt and come talk to me. You really need to lighten up, man.
You've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting --General Curtis Lemay--
If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained -- we must fight! --Patrick Henry--
America has never been united by blood or birth or soil. We are bound by ideals that move us beyond our backgrounds, lift us above our interests and teach us what it means to be citizens. Every child must be taught these principles. Every citizen must uphold them. And every immigrant, by embracing these ideals, makes our country more, not less, American. --President George W. Bush--
are usually just cheerleading sessions, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing but a soothing reduction in blood pressure brought about by the narcotic high of being agreed with. --Bill Whittle
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
--John Stuart Mill--
We are determined that before the sun sets on this terrible struggle, our flag will be recognized throughout the world as a symbol of freedom on the one hand and of overwhelming force on the other. --General George Marshall--
We can continue to try and clean up the gutters all over the world and spend all of our resources looking at just the dirty spots and trying to make them clean. Or we can lift our eyes up and look into the skies and move forward in an evolutionary way.
America is the greatest, freest and most decent society in existence. It is an oasis of goodness in a desert of cynicism and barbarism. This country, once an experiment unique in the world, is now the last best hope for the world.
Recent anti-Israel protests remind us again of our era's peculiar alliance: the most violent, intolerant, militantly religious movement in modern times has the peace movement on its side. --James Lileks--
As a wise man once said: we will pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
Unless the price is too high, the burden too great, the hardship too hard, the friend acts disproportionately, and the foe fights back. In which case, we need a timetable.
I am not willing to kill a man so that he will agree with my faith, but I am prepared to kill a man so that he cannot force my compatriots to submit to his.
You can say what you want about President Bush; but the truth is that he can take a punch. The man has taken a swift kick in the crotch for breakfast every day for 6 years and he keeps getting up with a smile in his heart and a sense of swift determination to see the job through to the best of his abilties.
In a perfect world, We'd live in peace and love and harmony with each oither and the world, but then, in a perfect world, Yoko would have taken the bullet.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. --Ronald Reagan--
America is rather like life. You can usually find in it what you look for. It will probably be interesting, and it is sure to be large. --E.M. Forster--
Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant, self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse. --Mark Twain--
The Enlightenment was followed by the French Revolution and the Napoleonic wars, which touched every European state, sparked vicious guerrilla conflicts across the Continent and killed millions. Then, things really turned ugly after the invention of soccer. --Iowahawk--
Every time I meet an Iraqi Army Soldier or Policeman that I haven't met before, I shake his hand and thank him for his service. Many times I am thanked for being here and helping his country. I always tell them that free people help each other and that those that truly value freedom help those seeking it no matter the cost. --Jack Army--
Right, left - the terms are useless nowadays anyway. There are statists, and there are individualists. There are pessimists, and optimists. There are people who look backwards and trust in the West, and those who look forward and trust in The World. Those are the continuums that seem to matter the most right now. --Lileks--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
A man or a nation is not placed upon this earth to do merely what is pleasant and what is profitable. It is often called upon to carry out what is both unpleasant and unprofitable, but if it is obviously right it is mere shirking not to undertake it. --Arthur Conan Doyle--
A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself. --John Stuart Mill--
After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." --Dave Grossman--
At heart Iâ€™m a cowboy; my attitude is if theyâ€™re not going to stand up and fight for what they believe in then they can go pound sand. --Bill Whittle--
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. --Alexander Tyler--
By that time a village half-wit could see what generations of professors had pretended not to notice. --Atlas Shrugged--
I kept asking Clarence why our world seemed to be collapsing and everything seemed so shitty. And he'd say, "That's the way it goes, but don't forget, it goes the other way too." --Alabama Worley--
So Bush is history, and we have a new president who promises to heal the planet, and yet the jihadists donâ€™t seem to have got the Obama message that there are no enemies, just friends we havenâ€™t yet held talks without preconditions with.
"I had started alone in this journey called life, people started
gathering up on the way, and the caravan got bigger everyday." --Urdu couplet
The book and the sword are the two things that control the world. We either gonna control them through knowledge and influence their minds, or we gonna bring the sword and take their heads off. --RZA--
It's a daily game of public Frogger, hopping frantically to avoid being crushed under the weight of your own narcissism, banality, and plain old stupidity. --Mary Katharine Ham--
There are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms
of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations. --James Madison--
It is in the heat of emotion that good people must remember to stand on principle. --Larry Elder--
Please show this to the president and ask him to remember the wishes of the forgotten man, that is, the one who dared to vote against him. We expect to be tramped on but we do wish the stepping would be a little less hard. --from a letter to Eleanor Roosevelt--
The world economy depends every day on some engineer, farmer, architect, radiator shop owner, truck driver or plumber getting up at 5AM, going to work, toiling hard, and producing real wealth so that an array of bureaucrats, regulators, and redistributors can manage the proper allotment of much of the natural largess produced. --VDH--
Parents are often so busy with the physical rearing of children that they miss the glory of parenthood, just as the grandeur of the trees is lost when raking leaves. --Marcelene Cox--